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Title: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: weirtech on March 30, 2009, 10:44:09 AM
i'm going to be getting some 1/2" flanges soon and was just curious if anyone would be interested in them or be more inclined to buy 1/2" over my standard 3/8" thick flanges.  obviously the price would be a bit more since they would be thicker, but also because they will most likely be waterjet cut instead of laser.  i know a lot of people want the 1/2" so i'm stepping up to meet the demand, just want to gauge interest.  they are probalby going to be around 50% more expensive than the 3/8".
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Post by: dvst8r on March 30, 2009, 10:53:56 AM
i'm going to be getting some 1/2" flanges soon and was just curious if anyone would be interested in them or be more inclined to buy 1/2" over my standard 3/8" thick flanges.  obviously the price would be a bit more since they would be thicker, but also because they will most likely be waterjet cut instead of laser.  i know a lot of people want the 1/2" so i'm stepping up to meet the demand, just want to gauge interest.  they are probalby going to be around 50% more expensive than the 3/8".

I have an upcoming cummins project, and 1/2" would be my only choice.
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Post by: SDRAWKCAB on March 30, 2009, 10:55:35 AM
I only use 1/2 for head flanges.
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Post by: patsmx5 on March 30, 2009, 11:01:06 AM
1/2", hell yeah! Might need a new intake flange from you if you're ready now.  ;)
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: slappynuts on March 30, 2009, 11:08:26 AM
I dont understand why people think they need 1/2" thick flanges. Unless you warp the shit out them when welding and need the extra meat to grind off.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: dvst8r on March 30, 2009, 11:25:14 AM
I dont understand why people think they need 1/2" thick flanges. Unless you warp the shit out them when welding and need the extra meat to grind off.

Well in the case of the cummins manifold I am building, @ 3/8" it will warp just under the 1800+ degrees F of egt. After all it is like a 4 ft long head.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: slappynuts on March 30, 2009, 11:43:48 AM
Is there a large space between the bolts? Another thing that would be a plus in your case would be to leave more material between the ports.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: mandrel-bends on March 30, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
Aaron - Most common 1/2" flanges we sell are turbo inlet/outlet flanges. We do some head flanges in 3/8 and some in 1/2 but people don't seem to care either way most of the time for those.
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Post by: monty007 on March 30, 2009, 12:35:57 PM
I just did 2 manifolds using Weir's 3/8 head and turbo flanges - no problems for me.  Is there anyway you can offer both?  I think the reduced cost helps us DIY guys a lot more.

my $0.02
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: weirtech on March 30, 2009, 01:04:12 PM
oh, i'm not going to stop making the 3/8" flanges.  just want to see if it will be worth while to do 1/2".

thanks for the input adam.
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Post by: malichite on March 30, 2009, 01:08:43 PM
All the 3/8" flanges I have used have been just fine.  I would probably continue to just order the 3/8 as I dont see a need for the thicker flanges for what I am doing and dont think I could justify paying 50% more for them.  my .02
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: BoostForLife on March 30, 2009, 01:09:12 PM
I would rather buy 1/2" flanges for my first try at migging up a manifold, would have less of a chance of warping shit.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on March 30, 2009, 02:21:24 PM
1/2" CnC here. Love it.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: BoostForLife on March 30, 2009, 02:37:08 PM
12" CnC here. Love it.
12" or 1/2"?
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: dvst8r on March 30, 2009, 03:26:58 PM
Is there a large space between the bolts? Another thing that would be a plus in your case would be to leave more material between the ports.

Well it's a 4ft head with 6 ports, so yeah there is a fair bit of space, it will be a solid flange, just cut for ports and holes. It will be milled after it is welded. Oh and this isn't my first dance.  ;)
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on March 30, 2009, 04:55:39 PM
12" CnC here. Love it.
12" or 1/2"?

Figure it out...  Youcanhazcontext???


AND MY FINGERS ARE FAT
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: SirDragsAlot on March 30, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
half inch flanges seem kinda overkill, three eights look pretty beefy.  i suppose if you can use half without any problems, why not?  bigger is better.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: HiProfile on March 31, 2009, 12:00:32 AM
Well I know the grass is always greener, but worst case you sit on them for a while. Its not like they take up space like a manifold. I'm guess you're just hoping to get a better quantity discount on the steel (not that I blame you)?

I've used 1/4" flanges for shit before :yes:, and managed no warpage, so 1/2" is overkill at least for Hondas IMO.
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Post by: Random Hero on March 31, 2009, 10:28:41 AM
I need a set of LB7 Flanges and 1 6BT Flange  :-*
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: Passenger on April 04, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
Keep in mind you might start to get some warpage with laser cutting on 1/2" flanges, there is going to be much more heat input on the material.

And a cummins head flange is like 26.5" IIRC, I still use 1/2" flanges for them though.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: TTC on April 04, 2009, 01:14:50 PM
My 3/8ths head flange warped on me fawk. Ground it down, warped again ...
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: danz on April 04, 2009, 02:41:31 PM
if you build it, they will come.

we are all cheap fucks.
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Post by: chris on April 04, 2009, 04:36:57 PM
Nothing wrong trying to offer some other options
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Post by: chris on April 04, 2009, 04:37:31 PM
Maybe do a group buy here
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Post by: walter on April 05, 2009, 09:03:55 PM
Aaron you have a pm.  :-\
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 06, 2009, 04:26:38 AM
I dont understand why people think they need 1/2" thick flanges. Unless you warp the shit out them when welding and need the extra meat to grind off.

It isn't that they warp so much as looks for me. i like the looks of 1/2"  and so do my customers.

aaron i talked to you about these before, nice your getting around to making the 1/2" flanges.
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: TTC on April 12, 2009, 04:46:42 PM
Could you make iintake  adaptor flanges to go from lets say a toyota head to a honda manifold?
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: Corey on April 15, 2009, 03:58:00 AM
the only retards who think 1/2 is necessary for manifolds are honda-techers.

by the way all those sweet CNC'd 1/2" flanges are really only .450 thick because they loose .050 getting milled flat because they are made from crap hot rolled. ill stick with the 3/8 joints for 50% less  :noel:

aaron just make sure they use the same steel on the 1/2". look how baller your 3/8" flanges welded tonight  8)

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Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: CSaddict on April 15, 2009, 06:30:18 AM
Wow, that is some hot action Corey. Ill be down this weekend to pick up those flanges!
Title: Re: 1/2" thick flanges? would you pay a little extra?
Post by: Passenger on April 15, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
the only retards who think 1/2 is necessary for manifolds are honda-techers.

by the way all those sweet CNC'd 1/2" flanges are really only .450 thick because they loose .050 getting milled flat because they are made from crap hot rolled. ill stick with the 3/8 joints for 50% less  :noel:

aaron just make sure they use the same steel on the 1/2". look how baller your 3/8" flanges welded tonight  8)

Depends who you get them from, I mill mine from crs. I prefer milled flanges not only for aesthetics but the fact you can pocket the flange as well to help get rid of some heat. Really though, 3/8" laser cut flanges are fine.