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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: Teg2boo on April 28, 2010, 05:27:04 PM

Title: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 28, 2010, 05:27:04 PM
I don't know how you guys install wastegate spring, but I'm in an apartment, my car is in the street and I have very basic tools.

I tried to figure out how to install the new spring in the wg and came out with this idea:

This thread is not about something extraordinaire or because I searched 2 weeks for this solution. I just wanted to share my idea...




(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flh5.ggpht.com%2F_ttHKvikk-8g%2FS9imlCbcm0I%2FAAAAAAAABQk%2FGMH7QH6HbeE%2Fs800%2FDSC_1283.JPG&hash=989c85e456b0943f737dfeb65e0b99f6a81998ed)

I don't give more info on the setup cause I beleive that you are smart enough to figure out what I did  :mexi:


I also found a mega hole in my manifold like 1/4" of diameter near the wastegate I need to fix. I "fixed" it for now with manifold cement at least it will remove the smell  :?:




Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 28, 2010, 05:30:13 PM
I always find it amasing people can turbo a car without owning decent tools/equipment and no garage. I couldn't live without a nicely equiped shop anymore.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Minor Threat on April 28, 2010, 05:33:12 PM
Do you not own a vice?
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 28, 2010, 05:36:00 PM
Do you not own a vice?

He's canadian, what did you expect? j/k
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 28, 2010, 05:41:30 PM
My parents have a garage with all the tools I need, but I don't live there and it's 40 min away.

I can't do anything big in the street anyway...

Other than the timing belt I did last year  :?:

What would I do with a vise in my apartment ? :P
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: t_cel_t on April 28, 2010, 05:49:38 PM
What would I do with a vise in my apartment ? :P

hold stuff
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Minor Threat on April 28, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
What would I do with a vise in my apartment ? :P

hold stuff

This guy knows what's up.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: bigwig on April 28, 2010, 06:06:41 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-ece.rice.edu%2F%7Ejdw%2Ffigs%2Fc_clamp_2.jpg&hash=f87b60c481fa0cf0acd71728a1968c201efed95d)

If you're poor/ghetto, walk right into Home Depot with your wastegate.  Grab a clamp.  Go find somewhere quiet.  Change your spring.  Put it back on the shelf.  With that said, C-Clamps are something you should have.  How do you depress your rear caliper without a c-clamp?
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: dvst8r on April 28, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Obviously with a piece of pipe and the weight of the car...  :D
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: bigwig on April 28, 2010, 06:25:30 PM
Obviously with a socket and the weight of the car...  :D
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Minor Threat on April 28, 2010, 06:42:39 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-ece.rice.edu%2F%7Ejdw%2Ffigs%2Fc_clamp_2.jpg&hash=f87b60c481fa0cf0acd71728a1968c201efed95d)

If you're poor/ghetto, walk right into Home Depot with your wastegate.  Grab a clamp.  Go find somewhere quiet.  Change your spring.  Put it back on the shelf.  With that said, C-Clamps are something you should have.  How do you depress your rear caliper without a c-clamp?

You twist them in by hand because you can't compress them like a set of front calipers?
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: 2slow on April 28, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-ece.rice.edu%2F%7Ejdw%2Ffigs%2Fc_clamp_2.jpg&hash=f87b60c481fa0cf0acd71728a1968c201efed95d)

If you're poor/ghetto, walk right into Home Depot with your wastegate.  Grab a clamp.  Go find somewhere quiet.  Change your spring.  Put it back on the shelf.  With that said, C-Clamps are something you should have.  How do you depress your rear caliper without a c-clamp?

You twist them in by hand because you can't compress them like a set of front calipers?
bingo....now for the front i rarely use c clamps. i just stick a flathead between the pad and rotorand pry its alot quicker, or you can use a big plumbing wrench
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 28, 2010, 10:32:13 PM
Wait, my method take 1/10 of that time. You know that a wastegate is hot after couple of minutes driving around :P

The wastegate is on the car, not in my hands.

Btw, I when I need to do something "big" like changing bushing or do caliper job, I go to my parents house. My dad has for like 30k$ of tools...

I just don't want to drive 40 minutes to go there so I use my car has a vise :P
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: The_Fatman81 on April 28, 2010, 10:37:56 PM
amazing use of scissor jack!! 2 thumbs up ;D
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: runsfromdacops on April 28, 2010, 11:02:39 PM
cool. but i just push down on the top and put 2 bolts in and then the rest no vice or bs like that. u got a 2bar spring in there? ???
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 28, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
It's a 15psi spring. I can push on top or with my hands and risk to strip 2 holes or I can take 2 minutes to install the jack and do my trick.

I'm 155lbs and you need at least 50lbs to push down that spring. It's 1/3 of my weight. I can do it by hands (without my weight), but I would need a third hand...

Huh, where is you noob post sir?








 
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: glustic on April 28, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
It's a 15psi spring. I can push on top or with my hands and risk to strip 2 holes or I can take 2 minutes to install the jack and do my trick.

I'm 155lbs and you need at least 50lbs to push down that spring. It's 1/3 of my weight. I can do it by hands (without my weight), but I would need a third hand...

Huh, where is you noob post sir?








 

Your third hand is your cock sir
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 29, 2010, 12:02:08 AM
I know, but do to a complication that I don't want to talk about, I have no more finger on my cock. Yeah I know it's tragic, but shits happen!
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: turbob16hatch on April 29, 2010, 01:14:26 AM
Gain weight pussy, it's not hard to man bitch those gates back together.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: HiProfile on April 29, 2010, 11:21:36 AM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-ece.rice.edu%2F%7Ejdw%2Ffigs%2Fc_clamp_2.jpg&hash=f87b60c481fa0cf0acd71728a1968c201efed95d)

If you're poor/ghetto, walk right into Home Depot with your wastegate.  Grab a clamp.  Go find somewhere quiet.  Change your spring.  Put it back on the shelf.  With that said, C-Clamps are something you should have.  How do you depress your rear caliper without a c-clamp?

Fuck that. Buy it, use it, return it. If you're scared, put tape over the ends. Otherwise they'll return almost anything if you're reasonable/forceful about it.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: brine04 on April 29, 2010, 11:26:59 AM
Be more respectful of Domtar pamphlets, I work there.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: 92CXyD on April 29, 2010, 11:29:27 AM
Like the idea of using your car and the ground as parts of a vise. ;D

$0 invested to get something done, works for me. :yes:
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Lowerit on April 29, 2010, 11:47:26 AM
Be more respectful of Domtar pamphlets, I work there.

Cornwall?
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: dvst8r on April 29, 2010, 01:51:27 PM
Be more respectful of Domtar pamphlets, I work there.

Cornwall?

Kamloops
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: bigwig on April 29, 2010, 05:34:19 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww-ece.rice.edu%2F%7Ejdw%2Ffigs%2Fc_clamp_2.jpg&hash=f87b60c481fa0cf0acd71728a1968c201efed95d)

If you're poor/ghetto, walk right into Home Depot with your wastegate.  Grab a clamp.  Go find somewhere quiet.  Change your spring.  Put it back on the shelf.  With that said, C-Clamps are something you should have.  How do you depress your rear caliper without a c-clamp?

Fuck that. Buy it, use it, return it. If you're scared, put tape over the ends. Otherwise they'll return almost anything if you're reasonable/forceful about it.

If you're really poor, you can't afford the $6 to buy it.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: t_cel_t on April 29, 2010, 06:18:04 PM
shit, i got a big 8in? c-clamp from harbor freight for a dollar. look in the center isle where they have all that ship piled on the tables labeled bargain or whatever.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: runsfromdacops on April 29, 2010, 06:41:54 PM
It's a 15psi spring. I can push on top or with my hands and risk to strip 2 holes or I can take 2 minutes to install the jack and do my trick.

I'm 155lbs and you need at least 50lbs to push down that spring. It's 1/3 of my weight. I can do it by hands (without my weight), but I would need a third hand...

Huh, where is you noob post sir?


noob post? go f your self. i have been around since ohmt was started.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: ifly87 on April 30, 2010, 03:13:46 AM
wastegates are for pussies.
Title: Re: Painless wastegate spring installation
Post by: Teg2boo on April 30, 2010, 10:23:31 AM
Well, even with the 13psi spring (yeah, I thought it was 15psi) the boost only reach 7psi.

I fixed a mega leak in the charge pipe but I only gain RPM on spool. Full boost at 4k instead of 5500 :P

It's accelerate "a lot" faster at low RPM, I'm sure I gained 30lbs of torque on the entire powerband by fixing that leak...

Still can't hit the boost cut tho... It stop at 7psi. I think it might be the ching chong BOV that is leaking.

It was doing the same shit on my last integra and its the same fucking setup. I doubt I installed it exactly the same way...

I'll try to pressurize it later today.


What is the best way to hook up the wastegate presure inlet? I use the nipple on the turbo. I doubt it can do a 7psi difference tho...