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02 WRX HY-35
« on: July 18, 2010, 11:32:42 AM »

I bought the WRX over Thanksgiving last year. It has a built engine,PPG gearset, walbro 255, 750cc injectors, catless header, 3" catless exhaust, Greddy FMIC, and what I now think is a CDM 16G turbo. I decided to change some things. Got ahold of a nice HY-35.






Off the car pics. I'm getting alot of hate on a local forunm that I frequent. Mostly because the up pipe adapter is migged together with some shit I had laying around instead of sch40 SS. I can assure you all though that the inside is very smooth thanks to my die grinder and carbide bits. It looks like fuck, but it works well.







comparison from the turbo that was on before(chinese 16G?)

Blow through MAF. No longer venting metered air woohooo! I'm gonna clean up the piping when we get a spool gun for aluminum MIG welding.






PIcked up this nicer intercooler from a buddy for super cheap and decided to re-route the airflow a bit. It is supposed to be a Spearco core but who knows.

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I'm getting alot of hate for the whitey bends, but still noone can expain why they are not going to work well
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 11:37:41 AM »

You are getting flack because most scooby guys are jackasses.

I bet that fucker will move out pretty good with the Holslut.

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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 11:50:10 AM »

nice flat rate turbo kit.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 11:52:03 AM »

Vids STAT!

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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 12:16:27 PM »

looks good little guy, I was wondering what youve been up to.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2010, 12:21:25 PM »

That shit is baller, good job
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2010, 12:38:43 PM »

*starts slow clap*
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2010, 01:03:30 PM »

Shit is fucking pimp!
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2010, 01:36:39 PM »

Thats the rHMT love I have been missing. Thank you all.

The other forum is a local one and everyone there thinks they are mechanichal, electrical, aeronautical engineers and have $1 million in the bank and $5 mil in the stock market and fuck 5 supermodels a week. http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/ if you all feel like getting involved. You have to register and do an intro post though before you can do anything.

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2010, 03:16:30 PM »

fuck yeah, love the up pipe! 
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2010, 03:28:53 PM »

The suby guys are almost as fucking gay as the Nissan guys, if it doesnt come in a Japanese bling box they think its stupid. If it isnt what everyone else uses its stupid and most importantly if its not an off the shelf tune that fits without modification its stupid.

Fuck them, awsome job but im assuming since subys spool everything like shit, that slut will take a while to start boiling.

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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2010, 03:43:36 PM »

Thats the rHMT love I have been missing. Thank you all.

The other forum is a local one and everyone there thinks they are mechanichal, electrical, aeronautical engineers and have $1 million in the bank and $5 mil in the stock market and fuck 5 supermodels a week. http://www.northernanimation.com/forum/ if you all feel like getting involved. You have to register and do an intro post though before you can do anything.

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.



I funny that your a semi local rhmt member to me. I also hate that website and haven't been on there in years because of it's fucking yuppie problem. any reason your not on fargostreet.com to just hate on everyone? it's good fun.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2010, 04:00:02 PM »

I'm on NA and that thread was lol'tastic.

GSR is funny in the fact that he spends $32433423.34 on his builds and has the mentality of "if you don't tune on AEM...then don't do it at all."


I will agree with them that the 'upgrade' from the Greddy intercooler to an Ebay intercooler is...uh...sweet?  :?:
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2010, 04:42:44 PM »

fucking badass.  Can't wait for vids.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2010, 04:54:08 PM »

The suby guys are almost as fucking gay as the Nissan guys, if it doesnt come in a Japanese bling box they think its stupid. If it isnt what everyone else uses its stupid and most importantly if its not an off the shelf tune that fits without modification its stupid.

Fuck them, awsome job but im assuming since subys spool everything like shit, that slut will take a while to start boiling.

Just like the homos on hondatech with hondas. It is a little slowspoolin, but barely more so than the CDM 16G that was on before.

I funny that your a semi local rhmt member to me. I also hate that website and haven't been on there in years because of it's fucking yuppie problem. any reason your not on fargostreet.com to just hate on everyone? it's good fun.
Ill check out fargostreet.com

I'm on NA and that thread was lol'tastic.

GSR is funny in the fact that he spends $32433423.34 on his builds and has the mentality of "if you don't tune on AEM...then don't do it at all."


I will agree with them that the 'upgrade' from the Greddy intercooler to an Ebay intercooler is...uh...sweet?  :?:

As far as the IC goes, once again, as far as I know it is supposed to bea spearco core.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2010, 05:54:05 PM »

As far as the IC goes, once again, as far as I know it is supposed to bea spearco core.


...It's not.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2010, 06:37:13 PM »

And how does one tell?
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2010, 09:29:11 PM »

All the Spearco units I have seen have textured cast end tanks.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 09:48:21 PM »

Your Greddy IC positioning was way better IMHO. The majority of your air takes the shortest route possible(inlet straight to outlet), and that part of your new IC is blocked by your bumper which will inhibit cooling a bit. But it looks pretty sweet how it sits, lol
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 10:45:01 PM »

All the Spearco units I have seen have textured cast end tanks.

Like I said, spearco core. custom endtanks for the applications they were intended to be used for. My buddy bough a bunch of these from a Nissan dealer that had some aftermarket intentions for them.

Your Greddy IC positioning was way better IMHO. The majority of your air takes the shortest route possible(inlet straight to outlet), and that part of your new IC is blocked by your bumper which will inhibit cooling a bit. But it looks pretty sweet how it sits, lol

The bumper really doesnt block anything because it is cut to shit after the front fascia on the top. If you see a WRX with bumper intact, take away all the black plastic and that is whats missing. Its a straight shot to the top of the IC. According to Corky Bell, your IC airflow opening only needs to be 1/4 of the area of the core you are using. A good point you have, but I think Im golden. ..Plus it looks much cleaner without the gap between the bottom of the IC and the bumper. I have since tied the bumper up so the bottom of the bumper is more uniform and the bottom of the IC is inside the bumper.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2010, 11:59:38 PM »

thats an ebay intercooler homes.   tell your friend that lied to you he better have been lied to himself or your going to beat whatever more you paid him then they cost out of him
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2010, 12:21:51 AM »

Ho;eslut, birdshit welds whitey bends......   Top shelf son  Top shelf   :noel:   :yes:
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2010, 03:44:47 AM »

Unless its a Spearco core with CDM end tanks welded to it, thats an eBay intercooler boss. They sure as fuck arent "custom end tanks" or anything. And anyone who would buy a Spearco core, wouldnt use chinese end tanks.

I have the same one on my car. You can tell by the lines of the end tanks.





Although, I would take the bar n plate over the tube n fin any day. So fuck what them fags are tellin ya. Plus, GReddy? Fuck GReddy. Show me one product that is up to par with today's advances. For fucks sake, I had to cut a hole in my "GReddy" catch can, because it was a closed set up, so I could wedge a filter on it. Bet those fan boys on your local forum would love that one.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2010, 08:29:06 PM »

i see your hy and raise you an hx

About you STFU and go make a intro post you worthless cum sucking noob  :-*
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2010, 09:06:07 PM »

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

Sell the Accessport and buy a Tactrix cable.  Download the freeware software you need (ECUFlash and ROM Raider).

You have a couple of solutions, I'm going to list them by order of preference... keep in mind I've only done AEM on built engines and ECUFlash/ROM Raider on stock ones.  I can give you very good advice, but if you aren't sure when I'm speaking from experience and when I'm playing with ideas PLEASE ASK because I don't want to fuck you on the deal.

1a) Subaru is one of the best MAF implementations ever, but to do anything with what you have and keeping the MAF is going to cost money.  See if there's a speed density hack for your ECU (I know there is for 04-ish STi, and I *think* bugeye) and milk that.

1b) Blowthru MAF skews what the MAF actually reads, lower's it's ceiling so to speak.  Dropping that sensor into a 70-75mm housing pre-turbo will both not skew it's output as airmass goes up, but also increase it's peak.  Hell, you can probably try for a full 80mm housing as that's the size of your turbo inlet BUT be aware that when you make a MAF too large you can kill off it's ability to read airmass with any resolution at idle.

* keep in mind that 1a and 1b are ASSuming that a built motor with excess clearances aren't wreaking havok with the knock sensor, which is a backbone sensor in those ECUs.  Unlike Evo you can disable it and tune off the base timing map, but I really recommend dyno time.  If the KS is freaking out I'd do that with my own car, but you might want to look into buying a $400-500 Honda AEM and wiring it into your WRX. *

2) Diablosports MAFia to rescale your MAF in it's current configuration.  $180 new I think?  The basic idea is that hotwire MAF are 0-12 volt devices, but the ECU can't read past 5 volts of that signal.  A MAFia will compress 0-6 volts into 0-5 volts, etc, increasing what you can read out of the meter right up until you lose resolution at idle exactly like having too big of a MAF housing.

3) Honda AEM wired into a stock WRX ECU plug.  If you are feeling snappy, and want to keep scantool emissions, you can keep the stock ECU powered w/ all codes disabled and the force readiness box checked and let it pick up OBD2port duty.

I'd be curious to see some datalogs, with an eye to AFR, timing, IAM, and KS feedback.  Also, it sounds like you're pretty bright/decently well read on the cars to get what's obviously a 300 whp 350 wtq Scoob to hold together, but please don't raise the revlimit or you'll shit the oil pump.

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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2010, 11:06:46 PM »

The flanges look a bit thin, but I fucking like it  :noel:
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2010, 11:11:20 PM »

I'm running 17 psi right now which is pushing 300 cfm..the limits of the stock MAF on my car. I'm still working on that. Running Cobb Accessport and I think the solution is just to lie to the computer about your target A/F ratio above the 300cfm limit. Maybe someone more familiar with subaru tuning can chime in on that.

Sell the Accessport and buy a Tactrix cable.  Download the freeware software you need (ECUFlash and ROM Raider).

You have a couple of solutions, I'm going to list them by order of preference... keep in mind I've only done AEM on built engines and ECUFlash/ROM Raider on stock ones.  I can give you very good advice, but if you aren't sure when I'm speaking from experience and when I'm playing with ideas PLEASE ASK because I don't want to fuck you on the deal.

1a) Subaru is one of the best MAF implementations ever, but to do anything with what you have and keeping the MAF is going to cost money.  See if there's a speed density hack for your ECU (I know there is for 04-ish STi, and I *think* bugeye) and milk that.

1b) Blowthru MAF skews what the MAF actually reads, lower's it's ceiling so to speak.  Dropping that sensor into a 70-75mm housing pre-turbo will both not skew it's output as airmass goes up, but also increase it's peak.  Hell, you can probably try for a full 80mm housing as that's the size of your turbo inlet BUT be aware that when you make a MAF too large you can kill off it's ability to read airmass with any resolution at idle.

* keep in mind that 1a and 1b are ASSuming that a built motor with excess clearances aren't wreaking havok with the knock sensor, which is a backbone sensor in those ECUs.  Unlike Evo you can disable it and tune off the base timing map, but I really recommend dyno time.  If the KS is freaking out I'd do that with my own car, but you might want to look into buying a $400-500 Honda AEM and wiring it into your WRX. *

2) Diablosports MAFia to rescale your MAF in it's current configuration.  $180 new I think?  The basic idea is that hotwire MAF are 0-12 volt devices, but the ECU can't read past 5 volts of that signal.  A MAFia will compress 0-6 volts into 0-5 volts, etc, increasing what you can read out of the meter right up until you lose resolution at idle exactly like having too big of a MAF housing.

3) Honda AEM wired into a stock WRX ECU plug.  If you are feeling snappy, and want to keep scantool emissions, you can keep the stock ECU powered w/ all codes disabled and the force readiness box checked and let it pick up OBD2port duty.

I'd be curious to see some datalogs, with an eye to AFR, timing, IAM, and KS feedback.  Also, it sounds like you're pretty bright/decently well read on the cars to get what's obviously a 300 whp 350 wtq Scoob to hold together, but please don't raise the revlimit or you'll shit the oil pump.

JD, as always, you are a motherfucking gangster. I am glad you found the comment which was directed DIRECTLY at you. I have read up a little on the RomRaider business and it has peaked my interest a little...but more so now I would say after reading the big FAQ in your other post. I think as money allows, I may seriously consider it. From what I gathered it is just a different flash/software using the  factory MAP sensor to guage airflow and tune via a VE table(not being very familiar with many tuning platforms it solely reminds me of MegaSquirt).

Here is one more question for you, just out of curiousity. I have just started a thread on hte CobbTuning forums with the same question: The way the AccessPort tuning guide instructs a nigger to tune past 300 CFM is to lie to the ECU in the last column of the fuel table( it uses the examples 10:1 A/F ratio for 350whp and 8:1 for 400 whp to reach a desired of , say, 11.5:1) Is this complete and utter horseshit or am I missing something else?

BTW, I think I'm up to about a keg of whatever you drink that I owe you for past advice including this. I WILL make good on that some day, provided we both live long enough.
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2010, 11:15:17 PM »

The flanges look a bit thin, but I fucking like it  :noel:

Flanges are NDDM  O0...Thats like CDM or JDM, but made in North Dakota by me cause Im too fucking cheap to buy a $15 flange. Luckily they warped the right direction so they seal nice. :noel: :yes:
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Re: 02 WRX HY-35
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2010, 09:40:46 AM »

I tried to get some logs this morning and *I think* it went into fuel cut at about 6200 rpm. I also noticed the EGT sensor reads constant 689 degrees and set a p0546(EGT sensor). geting a new sensor today
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