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Title: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 06, 2011, 02:04:00 PM
So this past weekend a buddy of mine welded up the front drain plug to reinforce it.

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Baller welder
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The man at work,
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Hum im plotting on taking these one of these days :evil:
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Thats it for now, I think im going to fill the sleeves even if it only helps a hit.

Few questions, 1000'cc injectors, e84, -6 fuel line, and 1 welbro 400 fuel pump, should I have enough fuel to make 700hp?

I been running a stock dizzy with ngk plugs and wires, do I have enough spark to light 700hp worth of e85/ 120 shot?

I welded up the engine bay of my crx, going to make some fender braces, anything else I should do/ weld up while im at it?
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 06, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
Thats not block welding... I have some pics of block welding...   O0
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 06, 2011, 02:31:43 PM
Thats not block welding... I have some pics of block welding...   O0

You had a window that you no longer needed to have :evil:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: Gold DA9 on December 06, 2011, 05:08:21 PM

Few questions, 1000'cc injectors, e84, -6 fuel line, and 1 welbro 400 fuel pump, should I have enough fuel to make 700hp?


not enough fuel on that single pump with e85 and 1000s. Run 2 of those pumps in parallel and probably 1100s or bigger. Whats spikers fuel setup?
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 06, 2011, 05:30:54 PM

Few questions, 1000'cc injectors, e84, -6 fuel line, and 1 welbro 400 fuel pump, should I have enough fuel to make 700hp?


not enough fuel on that single pump with e85 and 1000s. Run 2 of those pumps in parallel and probably 1100s or bigger. Whats spikers fuel setup?

Im thinking 500hp off boost then 120 shot (wet) on top of that should put me into the 600 range or split the block :evil:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 06, 2011, 05:48:12 PM
Stock sleeves won't hold 700whp.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 06, 2011, 05:58:35 PM
Stock sleeves won't hold 700whp.

But Bisi said it would wth his cams and pistons
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: 92CXyD on December 06, 2011, 06:05:03 PM
Stock sleeves won't hold 700whp.

But Bisi said it would wth his cams and pistons

And only on his Dyno with piss injection  :noel:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: theidealone on December 06, 2011, 06:13:05 PM
LOL @ Bisi  ;DDD

No, 1000s wont be enough to make 700 or anywhere close. The most Ive seen made with 1000s, about 60psi base, and E85 was 530ish. And thats probably the MOST anyone will ever see out of 1000s (minus ID1000s, and 100psi base).

I saw about 550 with 1200s, 2 walbros (1 inline 1 intank), and 55ish psi base. Injectors were around 85% I believe, and I was revving to 9600. A lot of it is also going to depend on how high you rev that thing, and where in the power band it makes the "700". Or at least thats what my logic is telling me. I had another friend make 530 with the same fuel pump and motor as I, but he only revved to 8k. He was at 65% (he said).

For 700 on E85, youre going to want 1600s or bigger. Just my thoughts.

Plug looks sweet though! That thing is thick as fuck!
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 06, 2011, 07:02:03 PM
Stock sleeves won't hold 700whp.

But Bisi said it would wth his cams and pistons

And only on his Dyno with piss injection  :noel:

you can make 700 on stock pistons with his dyno. doesnt mean shit to me
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 06, 2011, 10:18:14 PM
I love boobies.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: SloS13 on December 06, 2011, 10:56:11 PM
I love boobies.

I am fondle of them too.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 06, 2011, 11:08:47 PM
Stock sleeves won't hold 700whp.

But Bisi said it would wth his cams and pistons

Lol fuck bisi!

LOL @ Bisi  ;DDD

No, 1000s wont be enough to make 700 or anywhere close. The most Ive seen made with 1000s, about 60psi base, and E85 was 530ish. And thats probably the MOST anyone will ever see out of 1000s (minus ID1000s, and 100psi base).

I saw about 550 with 1200s, 2 walbros (1 inline 1 intank), and 55ish psi base. Injectors were around 85% I believe, and I was revving to 9600. A lot of it is also going to depend on how high you rev that thing, and where in the power band it makes the "700". Or at least thats what my logic is telling me. I had another friend make 530 with the same fuel pump and motor as I, but he only revved to 8k. He was at 65% (he said).

For 700 on E85, youre going to want 1600s or bigger. Just my thoughts.

Plug looks sweet though! That thing is thick as fuck!

Trying to make 500 off boost and 600 with the direct port. In reality only need enough injector to make 500 since the direct port is a wet kit and has its own fuel supply.


I been running a stock dizzy with ngk plugs and wires, do I have enough spark to light 700hp worth of e85/ 120 shot?

I welded up the engine bay of my crx, going to make some fender braces, anything else I should do/ weld up while im at it?

JD dont worrie if she blows she blows im going to tow it there this time! Any thoughts on these^^^
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: Foowee on December 07, 2011, 01:34:46 AM
Just use a y8 block, no drain plug sucka...  ::) 
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 07, 2011, 01:51:04 AM
Just use a y8 block, no drain plug sucka...  ::)

I run what I got, plus this block has already seen 15,000 miles of hell on it.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: theidealone on December 07, 2011, 02:47:38 AM
Fuck a Y anything. Z6 and A6 or nothing.

And I made 550 on stock ignition, my buddy is running stock ignition with an external blaster coil and made 600. Both on E85 D16s. I have another friend making 800 with stock ignition, but thats a B with C16. But theyre all 88-91 hatches.

I think youll be fine.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 07, 2011, 10:08:46 AM
Fuck a Y anything. Z6 and A6 or nothing.

And I made 550 on stock ignition, my buddy is running stock ignition with an external blaster coil and made 600. Both on E85 D16s. I have another friend making 800 with stock ignition, but thats a B with C16. But theyre all 88-91 hatches.

I think youll be fine.

That is what I was hoping to hear!
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: HiProfile on December 07, 2011, 06:10:26 PM
That is what I was hoping to hear!

FYI Not all parts age equally.

If you want to go with some large ID injectors, go watch some youtube vids on their spray pattern. The ID2200's are like a garden hose, both in flow and droplet size. Also remember the higher the base pressure, the more pump you need. At 100psi base, you need some serious pump. I'm surprised that people spend so much on 4 injectors vs opting for better atomization with 8 injectors. The extra money is a drop in the bucket for many setups.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: theidealone on December 08, 2011, 07:10:42 PM
This video says that the have a better spray pattern at 100psi base, vs less or 42psi base. I dont know shit about this. So I thought Id post the video for more discussion on this.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 09, 2011, 09:17:30 AM
Yes, spray pattern improves with pressure, which is why everything is going DI.  That doesn't mean the spray pattern is good.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: slappynuts on December 11, 2011, 09:29:24 AM
If you guys are planning on welding in that plug you need to do this before you sleeve the block. The pressure that sleeves put on the block in that section will crack the block when you weld it.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: ratcityrex on December 11, 2011, 02:46:28 PM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 11, 2011, 03:27:34 PM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 11, 2011, 09:56:21 PM
Don't fill to the top, causes cooling problems.  Leave a 1/2 or 3/4 inch area above the fill for coolant to flow against the head.  Use fine grain salt and not rock salt; I used rock salt and some of it was caught up in the epoxy... I flushed the hell out of it but know I didn't get it all, and that's a great corrosive to just leave in your cooling jacket.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 11, 2011, 11:21:45 PM
Don't fill to the top, causes cooling problems.  Leave a 1/2 or 3/4 inch area above the fill for coolant to flow against the head.  Use fine grain salt and not rock salt; I used rock salt and some of it was caught up in the epoxy... I flushed the hell out of it but know I didn't get it all, and that's a great corrosive to just leave in your cooling jacket.

Thats what I was thinking, 1/2" below deck. I think it will stay together but its still going to split itself going down the track :evil:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: 92CXyD on December 12, 2011, 12:13:28 AM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 12, 2011, 09:48:16 AM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: 92CXyD on January 12, 2012, 06:22:00 PM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.

It has been a month, have ya done this?

If so what was the results?   :noel:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on January 12, 2012, 11:43:13 PM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.

It has been a month, have ya done this?

If so what was the results?   :noel:

Nope, got the stuff to do it; maybe this weekend.
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: 92CXyD on January 13, 2012, 12:29:45 AM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.

It has been a month, have ya done this?

If so what was the results?   :noel:

Nope, got the stuff to do it; maybe this weekend.

Kool looking forward to this, machining my next block monday.  :noel:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: 92CXyD on February 22, 2012, 06:26:27 PM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.

It has been a month, have ya done this?

If so what was the results?   :noel:

Nope, got the stuff to do it; maybe this weekend.

Any results on this yet?  :noel:
Title: Re: Block welding with pic's
Post by: crxvtec91 on February 24, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
I don't think he plans on sleeving the block.

Nope, im not baller enough. Going to fill the sleeves with Embeco 885 that is said to put devcon to shame.

Are you doing it soon?

Curious if this is really better,

I'm block filling my next engine in the next two weeks.  :noel:

I want to do it with in a month. From everything I have read it seems like Embeco>devcon.

Price Embeco is cheaper
Strength Emeco puts devcon to shame
Cure Embeco doesnt need to be bake

Thats enough for me to try it. My only concern as of right now, is how well does it cool. Running e85 helps a bit, I also plan to run a mid size IC nothing to big, and might get a 13" fan with 3 core rad to be safe.

It has been a month, have ya done this?

If so what was the results?   :noel:

Nope, got the stuff to do it; maybe this weekend.

Any results on this yet?  :noel:

I filled it in about a week ago, but it still has not setup 100% do to the garage. Im in the middle of moving my whole garage this weekend which blows!