:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: Doug on January 14, 2010, 08:03:30 PM
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So the person who had my CRX before put the coilovers as low as they will go. The ride sucks ass and it feels like the front end is getting ripped off when you hit a bump in the road. They aren't like regular coilovers. I don't see any bolt/screw that keeps it locked.
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They use two spanner wrenches to turn those red anodized rings.
They lock against each other to stay in place.
You need the wrenches, or two big pair of channel locks.
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Fuck me. I'm tempted to just say fuck it and go ahead and buy a set of regular lowering springs.
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I wouldn't do that, the coilovers are adjustable. I'd get the right wrenches for that.
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You could try rigging it with a straight screwdriver and a hammer.
Put screwdriver on edge of hole and hit the hammer on the top ring until it's loose.
Crank it up where you want it. Do the same thing on the bottom nut to lock it up against the top one.
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You could try rigging it with a straight screwdriver and a hammer.
Put screwdriver on edge of hole and hit the hammer on the top ring until it's loose.
Crank it up where you want it. Do the same thing on the bottom nut to lock it up against the top one.
It's gonna take a long time doing it that way. The wrenches are just so much easier.
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If he can find them.
This is RHMT. We do it whatever way we can.
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What about one of those oil filter remover wrench things.
Not sure if it'd have enough grip to turn it.
I'm assuming the wheel is off and the car is jacked up when you're doing that? Would be a bit easier without the weight.
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Yeah jacked up wheel off. I don't have any desire to purchase a set of spanner wrenches I won't use again. I don't want coilovers as I won't be raising or lowering it. It's a daily driver not a track car, so simple lowering springs will work fine for me.
The only thing about using a screw driver and hammer is that both those rings spin. So I would have to find a way to keep the bottom ring stationary while trying to lap the upper ring around. I have a nice big C clamp, but don't think it has the clamping force needed to hold it.
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If you hit one of those rings with a screwdriver and hammer, it will come apart. a pair of oil filter wrenches might work too as mentioned. They have plenty of grip, question is how tight they are.
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Well I can't just hit one. I can sit there and spine the rings around, but they both spin (I'm assuming "locked" together). Actually the whole threaded pipe and rings spin together. Maybe I'll get lucky and the C clamp will hold it on tight enough to bust them apart.
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Load the suspension, then try loosening the locking ring.
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Well I can't just hit one. I can sit there and spine the rings around, but they both spin (I'm assuming "locked" together). Actually the whole threaded pipe and rings spin together. Maybe I'll get lucky and the C clamp will hold it on tight enough to bust them apart.
You can spin the rings by hand? If so, then just adjust them and be done.
If you can't, then cut a little edge in the bottom ring, and use a screwdriver to hit it. The spring is pushing on the upper ring, and friction is holding it. If you hit the lower ring hard enough, it should loosen from the upper. Or try two oil filter wrenches. Or build the spanner wrenches. Or buy them. I'm out of ideas.
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No the whole assembly spins. As in the threaded tube inside the springs and the rings. Probably because there was no load on them (car jacked up).
How could I load the suspension with the tire off? Just place another jack under the suspension and jack it up?
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Ah. I've never messed with those, only regular stock spring/shock assemblies and on those, the spring was always tight even when there's no load on it.
To load it, yeah, that might work. That or get some spring compressors and use them to stretch it. Can rent spring compressors for free at autozone with deposit.
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No the whole assembly spins. As in the threaded tube inside the springs and the rings. Probably because there was no load on them (car jacked up).
How could I load the suspension with the tire off? Just place another jack under the suspension and jack it up?
Yes.
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How could I load the suspension with the tire off? Just place another jack under the suspension and jack it up?
Had to do that with a couple big vehicles since the jack wouldn't raise them enough to put the wheel on with suspension unloaded.
Just make sure you find a good point to jack up the suspension, or the jack may go flying.
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buy a straight round bar that fits in the hole and make 2 perches out of it
I use my bench vise to make exhaust hangers all the time. Very simple.
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Doug, do you pay others to change your oil?
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Doug, do you pay others to change your oil?
zing!!
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Doug, do you pay others to change your oil?
Do you pay others to cut your patch of hair?
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Doug, do you pay others to change your oil?
Do you pay others to cut your patch of hair?
No sir, it's so little trouble being bald that I see no reason to do so.
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No the whole assembly spins. As in the threaded tube inside the springs and the rings. Probably because there was no load on them (car jacked up).
How could I load the suspension with the tire off? Just place another jack under the suspension and jack it up?
a pair of channel locks will suffice. hold bottom ring with one , break the top one loose with the other.
from the pic it looks like they are bottomed out. need to bust the top one first. :yes:
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Doug, do you pay others to change your oil?
Do you pay others to cut your patch of hair?
No sir, it's so little trouble being bald that I see no reason to do so.
Have the wife bic the patches. :noel:
And Doug do as others say and use the screwdriver hammer combo. O0
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dont get lowering springs. they are always too low.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
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dont get lowering springs. they are always too low.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
As I said they aren't like regular coilovers so I wasn't sure if there was some trick to them. Not to mention it's cold as living fuck with no garage so I don't feel like sitting out there for no telling how long to figure it out freezing my ass off.
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dont get lowering springs. they are always too low.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
As I said they aren't like regular coilovers so I wasn't sure if there was some trick to them. Not to mention it's cold as living fuck with no garage so I don't feel like sitting out there for no telling how long to figure it out freezing my ass off.
If you freeze your ass off "trying to figure it out"...
This.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
I mean. Seriously. Its pretty fuckin standard. Maybe you should just go buy you some super mad tyte jdm fan boy Teins or some shit, so you can have the "spanner wrenches". Then Im sure youll figure it out. ::)
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go to home depot and get a piece of steel rod that fits into the spanner wrench holes in the rings,
cut it into short lengths and drop it into the holes.
bang on it with a hammer.
Its gonna smash out the holes a touch but not as bad as just bashing on it with a screw driver.
You could also grab a small piece of bar stock and easily make your own version of a spanner wrench that wouldn't slop out the holes, but it looks like you'd rather buy some other springs instead of using your noggin.
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dont get lowering springs. they are always too low.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
As I said they aren't like regular coilovers so I wasn't sure if there was some trick to them. Not to mention it's cold as living fuck with no garage so I don't feel like sitting out there for no telling how long to figure it out freezing my ass off.
If you freeze your ass off "trying to figure it out"...
This.
im really surprised you are even asking, figure it out. if you cant, then im not sure boosting a car is within reach
I mean. Seriously. Its pretty fuckin standard. Maybe you should just go buy you some super mad tyte jdm fan boy Teins or some shit, so you can have the "spanner wrenches". Then Im sure youll figure it out. ::)
I guess reading comprehension was cut from the education budget. My exact words were I have never messed with any coilovers like these. The others I have had a simple allen bolt that locked them in place. Not to mention these have very shallow small round holes. I have NEVER seen these and didn't know if there was some kind of weird ass tool they made for them.
I love how your retarded ass puts spanner wrenches in quotations. Please do tell sir what they are called since you think that is a made up/incorrect name. Your comments alone show me you don't know shit about me.
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but it looks like you'd rather buy some other springs instead of using your noggin.
I would rather buy springs because:
A) Cheap ass coilovers are prone to break
B) These are super shitty from all the reviews
C) From my own driving with them they are super shitty
D) I have no intention of raising or lowering my car constantly. I simple few inch drop is all I want and it will stay that way.
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Keep the sleeves
Go on SCCAFORUMS.com
join
buy a set of Eibach GC springs (proper rates) and call it a day
I paid $130 (around there) for a set of eibach GC's 380/430 Shipped... a common deal. They are mounted on Ching chong sleeves.
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Keep the sleeves
Go on SCCAFORUMS.com
join
buy a set of Eibach GC springs (proper rates) and call it a day
I paid $130 (around there) for a set of eibach GC's 380/430 Shipped... a common deal. They are mounted on Ching chong sleeves.
Damn I was unaware they made just the GC springs, seems like all you ever hear about is the coilover. Anytime I dead a search that's all it pulled up, but looking at the Eibach site I see what you mean.
On the Eibach site they have them for $59, but doesn't say it's for a set of 4 of just per spring. At that price I'm going to assume it's per spring.
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but it looks like you'd rather buy some other springs instead of using your noggin.
I would rather buy springs because:
A) Cheap ass coilovers are prone to break
B) These are super shitty from all the reviews
C) From my own driving with them they are super shitty
D) I have no intention of raising or lowering my car constantly. I simple few inch drop is all I want and it will stay that way.
But Doug, You mean to tell me you dont want to throw 28" rims on your shit and raise it up?
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I guess reading comprehension was cut from the education budget. My exact words were I have never messed with any coilovers like these. The others I have had a simple allen bolt that locked them in place. Not to mention these have very shallow small round holes. I have NEVER seen these and didn't know if there was some kind of weird ass tool they made for them.
I love how your retarded ass puts spanner wrenches in quotations. Please do tell sir what they are called since you think that is a made up/incorrect name. Your comments alone show me you don't know shit about me.
LOL. Coilovers with locking perches? Never messed with those? Wow.
I put spanner wrenches in quotation marks, because my "spanner wrench" = channel locks.
Fuck, adjusting a perch cant be that hard to figure out, you retarded :mexi:
And tell ME sir, why the FUCK would I CARE to know SHIT about you?????
And how are "cheap ass coilovers prone to breaking"? Where have they broken at? Because its so difficult to wind a coil of steel out of certain thickness, diameter, and space to achieve a spring rate? Obviously, even the chinese can get this right.
I know of quite a few people who road race and autocross on eBay coilovers, simply because 450 f/r is perfectly fine for them, and thats the standard for these cheap ass coilovers. If youre not concerned with custom spring rates, theres no need for Eibach/GC shit @ 400 bucks, when eBay provides them for 50 bucks.
And how the FUCK did you NOT know that Eibach or Ground Control offered the springs by themselves???? Why do you think everyone buys Ground Control? Could it be for the custom spring rates and Eibach Quality? All Ground Control does is mate them with perches/sleeves and put their name on em. Oh, and offer over priced spherical bearing top hats.
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Fuck, adjusting a perch cant be that hard to figure out, you retarded :mexi:
Whoa up there. I'm still trying to figure out if he changes his own oil or not.
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I have seen the cheap sleeves mushroom out and crack at the bottom before. It was after many many years though.
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I guess reading comprehension was cut from the education budget. My exact words were I have never messed with any coilovers like these. The others I have had a simple allen bolt that locked them in place. Not to mention these have very shallow small round holes. I have NEVER seen these and didn't know if there was some kind of weird ass tool they made for them.
I love how your retarded ass puts spanner wrenches in quotations. Please do tell sir what they are called since you think that is a made up/incorrect name. Your comments alone show me you don't know shit about me.
LOL. Coilovers with locking perches? Never messed with those? Wow.
I put spanner wrenches in quotation marks, because my "spanner wrench" = channel locks.
Fuck, adjusting a perch cant be that hard to figure out, you retarded :mexi:
And tell ME sir, why the FUCK would I CARE to know SHIT about you?????
And how are "cheap ass coilovers prone to breaking"? Where have they broken at? Because its so difficult to wind a coil of steel out of certain thickness, diameter, and space to achieve a spring rate? Obviously, even the chinese can get this right.
I know of quite a few people who road race and autocross on eBay coilovers, simply because 450 f/r is perfectly fine for them, and thats the standard for these cheap ass coilovers. If youre not concerned with custom spring rates, theres no need for Eibach/GC shit @ 400 bucks, when eBay provides them for 50 bucks.
And how the FUCK did you NOT know that Eibach or Ground Control offered the springs by themselves???? Why do you think everyone buys Ground Control? Could it be for the custom spring rates and Eibach Quality? All Ground Control does is mate them with perches/sleeves and put their name on em. Oh, and offer over priced spherical bearing top hats.
I'll tell your how they fuck up good sir, how about the threads sheer completely off while driving down the interstate slamming the front wheel causing it to veer to the right off the road instantly. Ask how I know..I bought eBay coilovers for my EF hatch...never again.
I was talking about the perch design dip shit. It's not the standard design. I emailed WeaponR about them and they state that it came with a special tool to adjust them NOT spanner wrenches. They said the round cut outs are shallow and coned/rounded and it might prove difficult to use regular spanner wrenches.
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sir,channel locks will suffice. :yes:
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2 screwdrivers and a hammer :noel: