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Title: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 05:32:04 PM
http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/1586027675.html (http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/1586027675.html)

Buy this for $5500 cash.  Because it's more than I was thinking about spending for a car like this, wait for fall to see if I want to turbo it.

OR

Wait until I find a clean 94 non-leather, still LSD'd, cheaper, Miata to turbo ASAP.

If I like the Miata enough, I'd sell my SV650 for $2-3k and turbo the Miata and possibly pick up a CB750 to cafe.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: SloS13 on February 17, 2010, 05:33:30 PM
I'll sell you my turbo miata for $5500
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 05:37:01 PM
I'll sell you my turbo miata for $5500

Drive it to my house for a test drive.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: patsmx5 on February 17, 2010, 05:39:19 PM
Miatas are gay.

Now that that's clear....

Depends what you want. If you want a cheap fast car, get a 94. If you want a quieter, slightly nicer, slightly more refined, get a 99. You can find better deals than that too, keep looking. I paid 5700 cash for my 99' in August 06' with 111K miles on it, otherwise excellent condition.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Whitey on February 17, 2010, 05:44:55 PM
It would look good with a hard top
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: vtech on February 17, 2010, 06:04:00 PM
ls1 miata ;)
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Teg2boo on February 17, 2010, 06:09:23 PM
On the pictures it looks nice. Looks like a S2000
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: patsmx5 on February 17, 2010, 06:15:14 PM
ls1 miata ;)
I kick myself in the ass for turboing it instead of putting a V8 in it. If Ii could do it over again, I would put a V8 in, no doubt.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
I'm definitely going to go look at the car on Sunday and see where the guy stands.  He already told me in an email he would go down to $6000 without the body kit and intake.  I'm thinking if he sees $5500 in cash, he will take it.  I'd really like to buy the car for $5000 as I think that's what it's worth.  Edmunds puts the car with all the crap at $4600 roughly, and I'd be willing to say the condition and the features all in one car are rare enough to suggest a $400 premium.  $2000, not a chance.

If I actually got the car for $4600, I'd start buying turbo parts ASAP.  I still wouldn't turbo it ASAP, due to the fact I have no idea if I'll actually want to keep the car more than a minute and I have no interest taking the car, turboing it, and then selling it and losing $1000.

As for the V8, it just seems like too much work.  If I had more resources at my finger tips, I'd be willing to go that direction maybe, but working with what I have, a turbo would be more manageable.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: patsmx5 on February 17, 2010, 06:30:11 PM
Don't buy one if you're not gonna turbo it or something. They are slow as shit stock.

If you want that one, offer him 5K cash in hand, if he says no, leave. I wouldn't pay more than 5K for that. No way.

As for the V8, there are several kits out for different V8s. Fords 302's and LSx kits are common. Obviously 302 kits are cheaper cause they've been out for like 15 years. It is a good bit of work, but it's not that much if you buy a kit. But depending what you buy, the kit can be expensive.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
Don't buy one if you're not gonna turbo it or something. They are slow as shit stock.

If you want that one, offer him 5K cash in hand, if he says no, leave. I wouldn't pay more than 5K for that. No way.

As for the V8, there are several kits out for different V8s. Fords 302's and LSx kits are common. Obviously 302 kits are cheaper cause they've been out for like 15 years. It is a good bit of work, but it's not that much if you buy a kit. But depending what you buy, the kit can be expensive.

Yeah, I looked at the kit after talking to you the other day.  The one I saw was $2000 - $3500.  That's not including the engine, trans, and everything else.  Now we are talking about $8k in the car.  I'm buying a SLR for that kind of money.  I know I can turbo the car for $3500 including all the clutch and exhaust BS

Just nice round numbers:

Exhaust: $300
Clutch: $300
Turbo: $250
Manifold: $500
Downpipe: $150
Fuel Pump: $100
Injectors: $150
Intercooler: $100
Intercooler Plumbing: $150
BOV: $75
Megasquirt: $300
Wideband: $200
Gauges: $100
Oil Lines: $50
Water Lines: $50
New Radiator and Fan: $100
Dyno Time: $200
Misc: $300

Total: $3,375

So, is a LS1 swap better?  Probably.  But the difference in price allows me to buy all new suspension, tires, brakes, rotors, and a decent looking hooker.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 17, 2010, 06:51:29 PM
Don't buy one if you're not gonna turbo it or something. They are slow as shit stock.

If you want that one, offer him 5K cash in hand, if he says no, leave. I wouldn't pay more than 5K for that. No way.

As for the V8, there are several kits out for different V8s. Fords 302's and LSx kits are common. Obviously 302 kits are cheaper cause they've been out for like 15 years. It is a good bit of work, but it's not that much if you buy a kit. But depending what you buy, the kit can be expensive.

Agree. Decide what you think it's work and offer up to that amount. If they won't take it then walk away. I'm sure once he sits there for a few more days the thought of a guaranteed sale and that wad of cash will eat away at him...either that or it's just not for you.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: patsmx5 on February 17, 2010, 07:19:43 PM
It depends how much you can do yourself, and how resourceful you are. I've seen people do V8 swaps for 2K, start to finish. But that's pretty much building everything you can yoruself, only buying what you have to have.. And I've seen 30K dollar v8 swaps too.

BTW- look up a BEGI. They make turbo miata parts, them and flyin miata (FM) are the two big leaders of quality turbo parts for miatas. BEGI will customize you pretty much anything you can dream of. So say, if you want to make 250whp, have a T3 turbo already, they'll sell you whatever parts you want that will work with your setup. They have a Begi S (their cheapest begginer kit) which is like 1400 for a kit, it's less if you have your own turbo. Check out their site and call them up, they're not bad, but slow to ship shit because they buiild everything in-house.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 07:27:22 PM
I can't see me needing them for anything.  The only thing I can think I need anyone for is the manifold.  I'm either going to see if someone from here will do it or I'll just buy a precut collector and make it myself.  I have a chinese TIG.  I'd just prefer to have the manifold built by someone more experience.

I just know I wouldn't have the patience to do the V8 swap by myself.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: SloS13 on February 17, 2010, 08:03:41 PM
BTW- look up a BEGI. They make turbo miata parts, them and flyin miata (FM) are the two big leaders of quality turbo parts for miatas. BEGI will customize you pretty much anything you can dream of. So say, if you want to make 250whp, have a T3 turbo already, they'll sell you whatever parts you want that will work with your setup. They have a Begi S (their cheapest begginer kit) which is like 1400 for a kit, it's less if you have your own turbo. Check out their site and call them up, they're not bad, but slow to ship shit because they buiild everything in-house.

WTF are you talking about noob?  Look at yo muthafuckin address bar.

Stock miatas are hardly even fun.  They require at least 100 extra horsepower or they are actually gay.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on February 17, 2010, 08:10:50 PM
thats probably the nicest looking miata i've ever seen.  Most of them scream "i love to fuck gay men, and I love how my red paintjob faded to pink as it advertises my homosexuality even better"
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: turbob16hatch on February 17, 2010, 08:28:33 PM
thats probably the nicest looking miata i've ever seen.  Most of them scream "i love to fuck gay men, and I love how my red paintjob faded to pink as it advertises my homosexuality even better"

Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 17, 2010, 08:33:58 PM
thats probably the nicest looking miata i've ever seen.  Most of them scream "i love to fuck gay men, and I love how my red paintjob faded to pink as it advertises my homosexuality even better"



Ever make a Miata manifold?  ;)
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: turbob16hatch on February 17, 2010, 08:37:20 PM
thats probably the nicest looking miata i've ever seen.  Most of them scream "i love to fuck gay men, and I love how my red paintjob faded to pink as it advertises my homosexuality even better"



Ever make a Miata manifold?  ;)

I made one a long time ago.  :noel:
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: mandrel-bends on February 17, 2010, 11:19:31 PM
Clean car. I think I would do the V8 conversion myself. Nice little LS9 in that would be killer.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bryantaylor on February 18, 2010, 12:33:10 AM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 

and a V8 swap is super involved.  i looked into it and quickly said fuck it.  you have to at the very least build/buy a new front subframe and then build/buy a custom oil pan.  too much time and money when the bone stock motor will easily make 250whp.

and as said before, they are dog piss slow stock, but are still fun to drive.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Whitey on February 18, 2010, 06:23:22 PM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 18, 2010, 07:04:01 PM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 

Buying/selling a used car is always a fucked up process.  Not quite as fucked up as going to a dealership, but still fucked.

If I like the car, I'll offer him $5000.  Let him think about it.  I'll call him in another couple of days and see where he stands and maybe be willing to offer a bit more.  Some people only want to sell if they get their price.  He might be that kind of guy.  If he is, then I'm SOL.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 18, 2010, 08:41:15 PM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 

Buying/selling a used car is always a fucked up process.  Not quite as fucked up as going to a dealership, but still fucked.

If I like the car, I'll offer him $5000.  Let him think about it.  I'll call him in another couple of days and see where he stands and maybe be willing to offer a bit more.  Some people only want to sell if they get their price.  He might be that kind of guy.  If he is, then I'm SOL.

That's why you need to decide before hand how much the car is honestly worth to you. Do it before you look at it/drive it and make an "emotional buy". It's a clean car, but you could always find one in not as good shape and get it to that point for the same amount or less.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 18, 2010, 08:53:25 PM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 

Buying/selling a used car is always a fucked up process.  Not quite as fucked up as going to a dealership, but still fucked.

If I like the car, I'll offer him $5000.  Let him think about it.  I'll call him in another couple of days and see where he stands and maybe be willing to offer a bit more.  Some people only want to sell if they get their price.  He might be that kind of guy.  If he is, then I'm SOL.

That's why you need to decide before hand how much the car is honestly worth to you. Do it before you look at it/drive it and make an "emotional buy". It's a clean car, but you could always find one in not as good shape and get it to that point for the same amount or less.

I don't agree 100%.  I think there is validity with knowing how much you want to spend and not spending more, but you have to have flexibility in your price sometimes.  So, although I may want to pay $5000 because that's fair market value, if I like the car enough, and think it's worth a few hundred bucks more, I'm not unwilling to go that direction.

A CRX is worth $2000 probably according to KBB or Edmunds, but if you see a minty completely rust free CRX in the Northeast that is $3500, someone will realize it's not worth the $2000 that KBB and Edmunds may price it at because in order to get the same car, you'd have to buy from the West Coast and those will all be Mexicanized.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: raiden571 on February 18, 2010, 09:10:08 PM
there only good for running Spec Miata class
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 18, 2010, 09:29:58 PM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 

Buying/selling a used car is always a fucked up process.  Not quite as fucked up as going to a dealership, but still fucked.

If I like the car, I'll offer him $5000.  Let him think about it.  I'll call him in another couple of days and see where he stands and maybe be willing to offer a bit more.  Some people only want to sell if they get their price.  He might be that kind of guy.  If he is, then I'm SOL.

That's why you need to decide before hand how much the car is honestly worth to you. Do it before you look at it/drive it and make an "emotional buy". It's a clean car, but you could always find one in not as good shape and get it to that point for the same amount or less.

I don't agree 100%.  I think there is validity with knowing how much you want to spend and not spending more, but you have to have flexibility in your price sometimes.  So, although I may want to pay $5000 because that's fair market value, if I like the car enough, and think it's worth a few hundred bucks more, I'm not unwilling to go that direction.

A CRX is worth $2000 probably according to KBB or Edmunds, but if you see a minty completely rust free CRX in the Northeast that is $3500, someone will realize it's not worth the $2000 that KBB and Edmunds may price it at because in order to get the same car, you'd have to buy from the West Coast and those will all be Mexicanized.

Um, that's exactly what I was saying.  ???

A car's blue book value pretty much means jack. The value is what it is worth to you the buyer or you the seller. I was saying you need to have an idea of what it is worth to you and set a maximum price to walk away at. Some people will over pay for cars they get too excited about.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: random-strike on February 18, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
you could buy that car easily for 4999 here.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: patsmx5 on February 19, 2010, 12:30:09 AM
i would buy that car in a heartbeat.  and as far as pat says about its not worth more than 5000.  that really depends on where you live.  here in florida you will not buy any NB for 5 grand unless its wrecked or has a blown motor and trans. 


Its the internet, there's always that asshole that says, "I could buy that car for $50.00" or "around here that car would only sell for $2.00" and you know damn well that you couldn't buy it for the price they are saying.  If your seriously looking for a particular car, you know what the value and fair price of a good one is. 

That's always been a pet peeve of mine, the people on the internet driving $2,000 shitbox's saying they could buy a mint condition Z06 for $1500. 

Buying/selling a used car is always a fucked up process.  Not quite as fucked up as going to a dealership, but still fucked.

If I like the car, I'll offer him $5000.  Let him think about it.  I'll call him in another couple of days and see where he stands and maybe be willing to offer a bit more.  Some people only want to sell if they get their price.  He might be that kind of guy.  If he is, then I'm SOL.

That's why you need to decide before hand how much the car is honestly worth to you. Do it before you look at it/drive it and make an "emotional buy". It's a clean car, but you could always find one in not as good shape and get it to that point for the same amount or less.

I don't agree 100%.  I think there is validity with knowing how much you want to spend and not spending more, but you have to have flexibility in your price sometimes.  So, although I may want to pay $5000 because that's fair market value, if I like the car enough, and think it's worth a few hundred bucks more, I'm not unwilling to go that direction.

A CRX is worth $2000 probably according to KBB or Edmunds, but if you see a minty completely rust free CRX in the Northeast that is $3500, someone will realize it's not worth the $2000 that KBB and Edmunds may price it at because in order to get the same car, you'd have to buy from the West Coast and those will all be Mexicanized.

Um, that's exactly what I was saying.  ???

A car's blue book value pretty much means jack. The value is what it is worth to you the buyer or you the seller. I was saying you need to have an idea of what it is worth to you and set a maximum price to walk away at. Some people will over pay for cars they get too excited about.

Agreed 100%. People do that all the time. Extremely common. I did it when I bought mine. He was asking 6900, then he finally dropped it to 5900 and I looked at it, but I got excited (knowing I had finally found the car I'd been looking for for 3 months silver-99'-base model) and he could tell I was going to buy it, so when I tried to haggle him down he wouldn't hardly budge. Cause he knew I liked it and knew I wanted it, he pretty much knew I was going to buy it, even if he said 6,000, I still would have bought it. If I had been smarter then, I could have gotten it for less.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 21, 2010, 04:44:03 PM
Not that anyone cares, but I went and saw the car today.  It was a good looking/driving car.  It was what I expected.  I got the downlow that he wants to sell the car to buy a car for either $5000 or $6000.  The car he really wants is $5000.

Overall he was a good guy and nice to talk to.  I didn't talk turkey with him because he was such a decent dude, I didn't want to ruin his day if I wasn't going to buy it.  Overall, nothing has changed in my mind.  The car is still worth about $5200.  I just have to decide if I want to spend $5200 knowing I'm going to have to spend another $3500 to turbo it, and after I turbo it, I have no idea if I'll still like it.

One last comment, jesus christ does the car have a tight transmission.  Gears are SO short.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 21, 2010, 07:55:33 PM
Yeah I would get the 99+ model. I personally think the earlier models are ugly and those flip up head lights suck. I don't know about up there, but down here people wan't $3k+ for an early 90's model.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Towdogg on February 21, 2010, 08:55:00 PM
I wouldn't buy that 4 that much moneys, but I'm that asshole in the $2000 Blazer...  Its really up to you!
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: ryan89crx on February 21, 2010, 09:35:20 PM
I like the non pop-up headlights a lot better. That one you posted is actually pretty damn nice.

On another note, not that it matters, but you CAN find them for cheaper....(local to me)http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/1589230131.html (http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/1589230131.html)
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 21, 2010, 09:50:28 PM
I like the non pop-up headlights a lot better. That one you posted is actually pretty damn nice.

On another note, not that it matters, but you CAN find them for cheaper....(local to me)http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/1589230131.html (http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/1589230131.html)

I'm well aware, but when they sell for less they aren't optioned out like this car or paint is rough or its rusty or a million other things.  This car was a clean '99 with every option other than power door locks and special order black leather seats.  It's not a true selling point to me, but the leather, bose, AC, power everything, ect ect ect made it a nicer car than otherwise.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 7808 on February 22, 2010, 12:23:22 AM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 22, 2010, 03:24:57 AM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

Yeah instead you look like a fagot taking your BMW in for repair every month and bumming a ride off your "friend" with the Miata.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 7808 on February 22, 2010, 05:37:52 AM
ya good one
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: colt45 on February 22, 2010, 06:42:19 AM
ya good one

i lol'ed.  shit was funny
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 97Econobox on February 22, 2010, 09:43:33 AM
Miatas are like Del Sol's they are only cool if they have some power and a some pretty things on the exterior. That said Id rock it but only with the sole intention of turbo'ing it or swapping it.

Thats a clean car. Id hit it.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 22, 2010, 09:57:27 AM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

I kinda like the OBD1 3 and 5 series, too, but there's a reason why the same year Miata in not quite as nice shape sells for 1.5 to 3 times more.



Miatas are like Del Sol's they are only cool if they have some power and a some pretty things on the exterior.

Del Sols are never cool, and pretty exterior means nothing.  You are a faggot.  Go flirt with n/a michael some more.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 97Econobox on February 22, 2010, 09:58:48 AM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

I kinda like the OBD1 3 and 5 series, too, but there's a reason why the same year Miata in not quite as nice shape sells for 1.5 to 3 times more.



Miatas are like Del Sol's they are only cool if they have some power and a some pretty things on the exterior.

Del Sols are never cool, and pretty exterior means nothing.  You are a faggot.  Go flirt with n/a michael some more.

Keep talkin shit old man and i swear i will send the Karate champ himself to your door to deliver Hotpocket justice.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 05:29:26 PM
I'm going to offer the guy $5000.  I found someone about 30 miles away with a black hard top, so I think it's meant to be.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 22, 2010, 05:37:56 PM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

I kinda like the OBD1 3 and 5 series, too, but there's a reason why the same year Miata in not quite as nice shape sells for 1.5 to 3 times more.



Miatas are like Del Sol's they are only cool if they have some power and a some pretty things on the exterior.

Del Sols are never cool, and pretty exterior means nothing.  You are a faggot.  Go flirt with n/a michael some more.

Keep talkin shit old man and i swear i will send the Karate champ himself to your door to deliver Hotpocket justice.


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I'm going to offer the guy $5000.  I found someone about 30 miles away with a black hard top, so I think it's meant to be.

Do it, the hard top looks so much better on those cars.

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Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 22, 2010, 05:56:56 PM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

I kinda like the OBD1 3 and 5 series, too, but there's a reason why the same year Miata in not quite as nice shape sells for 1.5 to 3 times more.



Miatas are like Del Sol's they are only cool if they have some power and a some pretty things on the exterior.

Del Sols are never cool, and pretty exterior means nothing.  You are a faggot.  Go flirt with n/a michael some more.

Keep talkin shit old man and i swear i will send the Karate champ himself to your door to deliver Hotpocket justice.

The Karate champ and I would drink hard liquor and proceed to run a train on your mom.  Fuck you.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 06:20:56 PM
Hard tops are just better.  The only downside is the 60lbs they add in weight.  I don't think I'd ever bother taking out the rag top, otherwise I'd probably save about 150lbs by just running the hard top.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Whitey on February 22, 2010, 06:39:36 PM
Hard tops are just better.  The only downside is the 60lbs they add in weight.  I don't think I'd ever bother taking out the rag top, otherwise I'd probably save about 150lbs by just running the hard top.


Who gives a shit about the 60lbs when they look so much better.  Add 10lbs to the motor and you'll never even notice the extra 60 lbs. 
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 06:42:34 PM
Hard tops are just better.  The only downside is the 60lbs they add in weight.  I don't think I'd ever bother taking out the rag top, otherwise I'd probably save about 150lbs by just running the hard top.


Who gives a shit about the 60lbs when they look so much better.  Add 10lbs to the motor and you'll never even notice the extra 60 lbs. 

Some people are nuts and add the hard top so they can remove the convertible assembly.  You've never interacted with those crazies?

I'd add it because it looks better and functions better.  All it takes is one jerk off with a key and you have a destroyed rag top, interior, and anything else they decide.  A hard top at least takes the temptation away.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Whitey on February 22, 2010, 06:45:53 PM
Some people are nuts and add the hard top so they can remove the convertible assembly.  You've never interacted with those crazies?


No offense but anytime I see a guy getting out of a Miata I know to stay away from them.   :P
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 06:46:46 PM
Some people are nuts and add the hard top so they can remove the convertible assembly.  You've never interacted with those crazies?


No offense but anytime I see a guy getting out of a Miata I know to stay away from them.   :P

Says the man driving the $26,000 Accord  O0
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 22, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
Some people are nuts and add the hard top so they can remove the convertible assembly.  You've never interacted with those crazies?


No offense but anytime I see a guy getting out of a Miata I know to stay away from them.   :P

Says the man driving the $26,000 Accord  O0

In before Johnny points out he pays $1800/month for it.  I might be leaving our one or three zeroes.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 06:51:37 PM
Some people are nuts and add the hard top so they can remove the convertible assembly.  You've never interacted with those crazies?


No offense but anytime I see a guy getting out of a Miata I know to stay away from them.   :P

Says the man driving the $26,000 Accord  O0

In before Johnny points out he pays $1800/month for it.  I might be leaving our one or three zeroes.

Que, motherfucker?
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Whitey on February 22, 2010, 07:05:08 PM
In before Johnny points out he pays $1800/month for it.  I might be leaving our one or three zeroes.


He can do all the pointing he wants cause the payment in June drops to $0.00/month   :noel: 
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
Seller responded and said he doesn't want a cent less than $6000.  He's half ready to sell, half not.  I know money is the way to make him move one way or the other.  $5500 would probably make him think harder about things.  I probably should have asked to look at the car again and waved cash in his face.  I could go over with $5200 cash and see where he stands.  Seeing the cash might make him think twice.  I typically don't like showing up places with that kind of money though unless I'm definitely buying.

Maybe I should just wait out for a less expensive one.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: arsenio on February 22, 2010, 10:12:35 PM
Please don't buy a Miata.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 10:26:03 PM
Please don't buy a Miata.

I really like coupes.  Most are garbage or overpriced.  Miata is not.  I'm just not ready to throw $10k on a car, and what you get for $10k is still not worth it most of the time.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: arsenio on February 22, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
you can have my car for $1900. Already comes turbod.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 22, 2010, 10:36:14 PM
you can have my car for $1900. Already comes turbod.

Don't you have a RX7?

No thanks.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: arsenio on February 22, 2010, 10:42:08 PM
:)
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 7808 on February 23, 2010, 04:19:25 AM
they do look pretty gaysexy with a hardtop.  they look pathetic stock with that wrinkled nutsack drapped over them
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 7808 on February 23, 2010, 04:42:17 AM
i used to kinda want a miata.  rwd. built to handle well.  then i figured out people are making 500rwhp stock motor w/ headstuds in 92-95 bmws also rwd and handle well  and you dont look like a fagot in your convertable going to pick up your boyfriend.  and you can pick em up for 1500 or more for a nice one

I kinda like the OBD1 3 and 5 series, too, but there's a reason why the same year Miata in not quite as nice shape sells for 1.5 to 3 times more.



ya all the mid life crisis gay pride men are willing to pay top $ for them.  i went test drove a few once, always ended up meeting up with some girl or some guy that made me feel uncomfortable, and they felt junky for how much they wanted for em.   ive driven nice ones and there fun to throw around.  basicly fuck em cause they cost to much and this 250hp talk seems stupid, i dont turbo shit for 250hp anymore. probly why ihavent turbo anything a while  O0 hard top v8 miata = nothin gay about that
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 23, 2010, 08:57:52 AM
250 hp in a Miata is faster than 500 in your BMW.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: BoostedSchemes on February 23, 2010, 09:02:39 AM
500 hp in a Miata is gayer than 250 in your BMW.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: HiProfile on February 23, 2010, 01:36:35 PM
250 hp in a Miata is faster than 500 in your BMW.
500 hp in a Miata is gayer than 250 in your BMW.


crx.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bryantaylor on February 23, 2010, 08:26:40 PM
250 hp in a Miata is faster than 500 in your BMW.
+1  i have seen somewhere a while ago at some racetrack (i think it was texas motorsports park, but i am not 100%) that a 250whp miata with r-compounds and a good driver was putting down the same lap times as a GT3 porsche.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 23, 2010, 11:14:06 PM
F=MA dictates that a lighter car handles better.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: rsmith2786 on February 24, 2010, 03:17:40 AM
F=MA dictates that a lighter car handles better.

F=MA dictates that a heavier car has better traction.

Not that it is that simple in either case.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: shadow on February 24, 2010, 03:45:25 AM
F=MA dictates that a lighter car handles better.

F=MA dictates that a heavier car has better traction.

Not that it is that simple in either case.

that only works if they weight is even distributed doesnt it? or if they rear has sufficient weight to get traction.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 24, 2010, 08:49:20 AM
Heavier cars are easier to launch.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on February 24, 2010, 12:40:58 PM
Heavier cars are easier to launch.
reason why 400hp camaro smokes 400hp civics on the street
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 92CXyD on February 24, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
There is a doctor local to me who has 1g miata with a jackson racing supercharger, and a 1g miata with a 215 buick/rover aluminum block v8.
The last time I looked at his v-8 miata he was still trying to figure out the GM OBD1 F.I. management.

He takes these cars to SCCA SOLO 2 events here and down in the Denver area.

I personally thing he spent too much for all of this but he can afford it.

Great Driver  :yes:
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Jorsher on February 24, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
I'd rock one if I found a decent one for cheap.  No homo.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: dvst8r on February 24, 2010, 01:19:36 PM
I would rock an LSx swapped miata if I was was some little leprechaun. Seriously I can't even sit in one without my knees pinned to the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 24, 2010, 01:32:38 PM
OBD1 GM is a mixed bag when using it on an engine it didn't come on, or with certain sensors/injectors.  It can be super easy, or it can be a nonlinear shitfight.  Code59 on this 3.4 has been an education, mainly getting the idle right at all temps, and the other flavors can be downright wierd in certain applications.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 92CXyD on February 24, 2010, 01:38:53 PM
OBD1 GM is a mixed bag when using it on an engine it didn't come on, or with certain sensors/injectors.  It can be super easy, or it can be a nonlinear shitfight.  Code59 on this 3.4 has been an education, mainly getting the idle right at all temps, and the other flavors can be downright wierd in certain applications.

Yeah I think that is what he is finding out. ;D
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 24, 2010, 03:28:58 PM
I would rock an LSx swapped miata if I was was some little leprechaun. Seriously I can't even sit in one without my knees pinned to the steering wheel.

How big are you?  I'm 5'11 and leg room wasn't an issue.  I'm skinny so that's not really an issue.

I don't think I'd be happy doing much over 2.5 hours in the car, but that kind of driving happens to infrequently that I don't even see it as an issue.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Jorsher on February 24, 2010, 03:48:27 PM
I would rock an LSx swapped miata if I was was some little leprechaun. Seriously I can't even sit in one without my knees pinned to the steering wheel.

I'm 5'11" and a skinny fuck.

I can shoehorn myself into any vehicle with ease.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 24, 2010, 03:59:01 PM
Some people like that tight "glove fitting" feel. I on the other hand like to be able to move around freely. Not to mention like you said that would get old really quick on a long trip. My Del Sol had a lot more leg room than the Miata and I started getting a little aggravated driving it 9 hours back from Ohio.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bryantaylor on February 24, 2010, 10:57:54 PM
im 5'11 and fat (250lbs) and i bolted an aftermarket seat to the floor and i easily fit now.  but with a stock seat, my head would hit the soft top.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 24, 2010, 10:58:54 PM
Alright, I've given up on Miatas.  I just got finished reading Miata.net and those guys are out of their fucking mind.  Evidently this car: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1611208744.html (http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1611208744.html) is worth $6-7k.  I'm floored how someone would pay that much for a stupid little toy car.  Forget the car being associated with gays, I don't think I'd want a Miata because I'd be associated with Miata owners.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: buk9tp on February 24, 2010, 11:07:12 PM
So you let other people determine your decisions because you're afraid of who you'll be associated with? Sounds femanine to me.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 24, 2010, 11:09:14 PM
So you let other people determine your decisions because you're afraid of who you'll be associated with? Sounds femanine to me.

Go troll elsewhere.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bryantaylor on February 25, 2010, 02:54:20 AM
miata.net is full of old people.  and miataturbo.net is owned by rick.  there aren't any "good" miata forums.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on February 25, 2010, 03:15:17 AM
miata.net is full of old people.  and miataturbo.net is owned by rick.  there aren't any "good" miata forums.

I don't care about the forum.  I don't want to talk to them about anything Miata related.  They are just making normal people think their Miata is worth $1-4k more than KBB, Edmunds, and NADA say.  I'm sorry, but $1k off on a $5k car is a reasonable difference.  It's not like we are talking about $1000 on a $20,000 car.

Fuck this.  When I wake up tomorrow afternoon I'lll lock this thread up.  I hope everyone destroys the thread by then.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on February 25, 2010, 03:22:13 AM
You won't lock it, bet
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on February 25, 2010, 03:54:50 AM
Alright, I've given up on Miatas.  I just got finished reading Miata.net and those guys are out of their fucking mind.  Evidently this car: http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1611208744.html (http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1611208744.html) is worth $6-7k.  I'm floored how someone would pay that much for a stupid little toy car.  Forget the car being associated with gays, I don't think I'd want a Miata because I'd be associated with Miata owners.

Yeah, for some reason when ANY car has low milage for its year people think its worth gold, i laugh at the people selling pewter SS camaro's that have 10-30k on them for $25,000.  So fucking stupid, you cna pickup one with a decent body, pay a shop to rebuild the engine and redo the suspension and any urethane parts and a paintjob and it'll still be cheaper.

The last place i worked (yeah i actually had a job once) the owner, this dumbass meathead Romanian cock smuggler, had a orange WS6 that he rarely drove because he thought holding onto it and not driving it would increase its value since its a 'rare' color.  retarded ass romainian.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 25, 2010, 09:33:54 AM
So you let other people determine your decisions because you're afraid of who you'll be associated with? Sounds femanine to me.

Go troll elsewhere.

That's not a troll comment, buk's been taking his meds and saw something clearly for once.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on March 17, 2010, 12:37:11 PM
I bought a different 1999 Miata.  Basically the same as the black one except white with a tan interior.  Overall condition is good/excellent.  Has a hard top already which is worth $$.  67500 miles.  Owned by an older lady and man.  Overall, I think I could have gotten it for a bit cheaper, but I got it for $5800.  I'm confident I could turn around and sell the car tomorrow for $6500-7000 so overall I think I did alright.

I pick it up in a little over a week because they are going on vacation and I want to give it a full inspection before I actually hand him the rest of the cash.  The EGR needs to be cleaned and a simple vac line reroute to solve a CEL.  The only thing that worried me was the steering wheel was a bit cocked when driving.  Like I said, if I'm going to give the car a full inspection in a little over a week and check everything out more closely before I give him the rest of the money.  I gave him $200 to hold the car.

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Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: 97Econobox on March 17, 2010, 01:27:40 PM
They look like different cars all together with the hard top
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: salesmonkey on March 17, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
so if you sell this your going to mark it up several thousand? just like the people who pisses you off? hypocrite. just fucking around with you sense we all do it to a point. just funny you complain about it so much.
     but on another note. i drove a 95 miata, back in 2005, from san diego CA to past seatle WA. none stop besides food and peeing. trying to sleep in one is pretty difficult. it isnt that bad of a ride you cant do long distance but defintly wouldnt be your first choice.  picked up mine for 3400 if i remember right. it was a salvage title. but was nice and ran like a champ. low miles but had to replace the clutch within a month or two of owning it. only car i ever wrecked. wrecked it that winter, funny thing was it was a nice day but they just put some de-icer on the road plus going to fast equals me and the car on its side in a ditch and my friend outside the car. got to watch him fly over me and onto the ground was a cool experience becuase we both walked away. litterally we ended up walking two miles to his house afterwards.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on March 17, 2010, 01:37:52 PM
I bought the car to drive.  I didn't feel bad for paying $5800 when I probably could have bought it for $5600 because I knew I bought the car for much less than market value.  The car has less horsepower than I typically want.  I will most likely turbo it.  If I decide not to, I will sell it.  If I sell it, I will be able to atleast recover my costs as I bought it cheaper than market value.  Get it?

94-95's are much tigher than the 99's.  I drove a 94 a couple of weeks ago and I was not comfortable.  My legs were hitting the steering column.  The 99 I fit in with ease.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: salesmonkey on March 17, 2010, 08:10:19 PM
I bought the car to drive.  I didn't feel bad for paying $5800 when I probably could have bought it for $5600 because I knew I bought the car for much less than market value.  The car has less horsepower than I typically want.  I will most likely turbo it.  If I decide not to, I will sell it.  If I sell it, I will be able to atleast recover my costs as I bought it cheaper than market value.  Get it?

94-95's are much tigher than the 99's.  I drove a 94 a couple of weeks ago and I was not comfortable.  My legs were hitting the steering column.  The 99 I fit in with ease.

i fit just fine in the 95 and im the same size as you. aslo trust me i get it about buying a car and being able to sell it for at least what you paid for it. ive done it 20-30+ times. ive kinda down graded on what i buy lately but i still buy several cars a year. my plan with my miata back in 2005 was to turbo it. but it didnt last long enough. even with the low hp there still fun till you turbo it. does smoke shows and donuts and lets you drive like a maniac. i had a lot of funny memories in mine for owning it for such a short time. luckily not many people know i owned a miata though.
 
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: random-strike on March 17, 2010, 08:13:22 PM
new jersey is such a shithole
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Doug on March 17, 2010, 10:48:51 PM
So you pass up a black on black that runs great to pick up a white on tan that has problems for around the same price? Good plan.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on March 18, 2010, 06:31:14 AM
So you pass up a black on black that runs great to pick up a white on tan that has problems for around the same price? Good plan.

The EGR is a common problem with a $5 fix.  The car might need an alignment.  The car has 20k less miles on it and has a hard top worth $1000.  It's never seen snow, unlike the other car.  It's been garage kept or kept under a good quality cover during the winters.  It was driven by an old man and old lady.  They have service records.  The other car had oil around the exhaust manifold.  The coil pack and cat was recently changed($600)

Overall, the car is a much better buy for the hard top alone.  They aren't common and they are pretty expensive.  Do I think I could have gotten it a bit cheaper?  Probably.  I'm not too concerned about it because I know I bought it well under market value.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2010, 09:22:32 AM
I can appreciate you being price savvy, but I am afraid you're going to completely screw this up due to bigwig-ness.

The Integra you sold was very much not in bad shape, actually in great shape given how the kids have destroyed those cars.  You just lost sight of the value of doing a day or two's work, and your usual follow through problems.  At the end of the day installing a turbo kit on a Miata is a complete waste of time and money... but can you forget all about that and lose yourself in the experience the car represents completely outside it's book value and the annoyance it creates in your life? 
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on March 18, 2010, 10:23:19 AM
The turbo'd Integra was in worse shape than it showed.  Believe me.  I know what mistakes I made.  Example, I took a LONG time installing the clutch, outside, during the rainy season.  I neglected to use any locktite on any of the bolts.  I'm pretty sure I might have hurt the engine a couple of times when experimenting with different basemaps for Uberdata.  A friend was helping me jack up the car, jacked in the wrong place on the body and it put a small hole in the floor.  The car wasn't a Buk or Yuri failure, but it definitely had issues.  Forget all of that, the body and paint was in not good condition.  A fair amount of rust and a good amount of overall paint issues.  Figuring in low balling Honda faggots, the car was a loss and sold as such.

The Miata will stay stock until I make a decision one way or the other.  If I enjoy the car, I might turbo it.  It won't be done for several months if I decide to do it.  I might leave the car as is and enjoy a simple car that is great to drive.  If I don't really like it, I'm going to sell it.  It's not that complicated.

I'd appreciate you not trying to talk to me like a person who knows better.  I have some life experience you don't have.  Have you negotiated $100,000 contracts?  Instrumental part of a $1.2 million dollar project?  Been involved in coordinating crews of 20+ people?

In the end it's just a car.  A $5800 car.  Let's not act like it's the defining purchase or moment in my or anyone elses life.

OK?
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2010, 10:32:41 AM
I'd appreciate you not trying to talk to me like a person who knows better.  I have some life experience you don't have.  Have you negotiated $100,000 contracts?  Instrumental part of a $1.2 million dollar project?  Been involved in coordinating crews of 20+ people?

Have you successfully turbocharged a vehicle?
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: bigwig on March 18, 2010, 10:34:48 AM
I'd appreciate you not trying to talk to me like a person who knows better.  I have some life experience you don't have.  Have you negotiated $100,000 contracts?  Instrumental part of a $1.2 million dollar project?  Been involved in coordinating crews of 20+ people?

Have you successfully turbocharged a vehicle?

Depends on what you consider successfully.  I'd say yes.  The car drove, made boost, made 240whp and 235wtq at Jeff Evan's dyno.  Never broke down.  Never didn't start(except for when I used a bad basemap on an experimental version of UD).  To different people, they would be proud of it.  Because I'm ultra critical, it was just ok.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 18, 2010, 10:36:07 AM
Amazing.
Title: Re: Should I buy a fancy Miata?
Post by: j.h.christ on March 18, 2010, 10:37:55 AM
I'd appreciate you not trying to talk to me like a person who knows better.  I have some life experience you don't have.  Have you negotiated $100,000 contracts?  Instrumental part of a $1.2 million dollar project?  Been involved in coordinating crews of 20+ people?

have you ever taken a 10 pound shit? been instrumental in clogging up the plumbing of a 3.8gpf dorm toilet? made 20+ people gag and run out of the room in pure awe of your flatulence? these questions are just as relevant.