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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: TTC on March 14, 2010, 07:31:36 PM
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I thought it was interesting how short the stroke is, the deck on the piston and how close the valves are actually coming to the face of the piston.
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
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The piston looks similar to a two smoke piston.
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Man. That piston only has two rings.
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
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I thought it was interesting how short the stroke is
have you seen how high they rev?
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
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FUCK YOU.
i fucking knew it.
FUCK YOU
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The big end of that rod looks like it took some abuse, there's some wear marks in it.
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The big end of that rod looks like it took some abuse, there's some wear marks in it.
you think someone who posts pictures of them on teh interwebz can afford new ones?
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
this made me lol
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
this made me lol
Is the number I have for you a cell? Because I would like to send you something that makes you lol some more.
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Whats the mark by the wrist pin?
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You put your weed in there
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
this made me lol
Is the number I have for you a cell? Because I would like to send you something that makes you lol some more.
Yeah it is you text bombing bastard. >:(
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That is why F1 motors consume a quart oil every 15 minutes!
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I know the stroke is short cause it revs to 18k, just didnt think it would be that short.
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i hate that 98vtec fucker
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i hate that 98vtec fucker
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Two rings = more friction = less power? More weight too. It's clear that at those speeds and acceleration every gram is huge.
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Two rings = more friction = less power? More weight too. It's clear that at those speeds and acceleration every gram is huge.
as apposed to the std 3 ring package?
The piston top is awesome. Goes to show that a huge dome isn't ideal.
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as apposed to the std 3 ring package?
The piston top is awesome. Goes to show that a huge dome isn't ideal.
No, I wasn't considering the oil control setup. Just "compression."
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as apposed to the std 3 ring package?
The piston top is awesome. Goes to show that a huge dome isn't ideal.
Flat valve angle is where it's at.
I like that they use studs for the big end :yes:
I'm curious about the pin in the center of the big end. Is that there so if you hammer a bearing it won't spin leading to a mangled crank?
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Whats the mark by the wrist pin?
i think thats there so you can get those snap rings out
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
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Do you, perchance, have a number I could call you at to discuss this?
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
what would you comment on?
That anything not relevant to elephants is irrelephant.
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Do you, perchance, have a number I could call you at to discuss this?
Hmmm. Assuming you were speaking to me.....yes. Yes i do.
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ITS A TRAP!
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Two rings = more friction = less power?
i assumed the exact opposite
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Blow-by = less power.
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Depends how/why the compression is getting past the rings. There are several ways and most can be solved with a good evac system.
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Blow-by = less power.
vacuum pumps + low tension rings = less blow by
this is F1, not cindy's grocery getter. If the engine lasts for the whole race, they are happy.
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No doubt. i was referring to "why two rings".
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Blow-by = less power.
what do you think the p2w tolerances are? I'm betting blowby isnt a big issue
my assumption: one less ring = less friction = more power
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Also just think of the insane velocity. There isn't even time for significant blowby. You could run no rings and i bet it would stilll run without much issue.
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Blow-by = less power.
vacuum pumps + low tension rings = less blow by
this is F1, not cindy's grocery getter. If the engine lasts for the whole race, they are happy.
actually i think the engines have to last 2 races now
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Blow-by = less power.
vacuum pumps + low tension rings = less blow by
this is F1, not cindy's grocery getter. If the engine lasts for the whole race, they are happy.
actually i think the engines have to last 2 races now
thanks to the shitty economy
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Blow-by = less power.
vacuum pumps + low tension rings = less blow by
this is F1, not cindy's grocery getter. If the engine lasts for the whole race, they are happy.
actually i think the engines have to last 2 races now
thanks to the shitty economy
No three races, they get 8 engines for 19 races, practices, and qualifying.
Some are using one engine for practices and the rest for qualifying.
The post picts. looks like the older rods and piston configurations. I remember seeing the rods look more intricate and the pistons even lighter before.
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Watching the top gear episode where richard hammand(spell) drove the F1 car, they said the engine is almost locked up when cold so they run warm water through it to heat it up, same goes for the oil. I would then say the clearances are tight.
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Watching the top gear episode where richard hammand(spell) drove the F1 car, they said the engine is almost locked up when cold so they run warm water through it to heat it up, same goes for the oil. I would then say the clearances are tight.
yeah same with some of the high dollar exotics, you can start it cold but it has to idle for like 20 min before you can drive it.
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Most people will comment on the piston only having two rings.
on my 450R MXbike i run a cp piston with only one compression ring and oil control rings. it is because if produces less friction, and revs quicker. i noticed a difference between the 3 ring i ran before compared to the new 2 ring.
with the one less ring, i didnt notice any more blowby, but the ring end gap was absolutely crucial, as i was told by the company that did my head work. also the service intervals are alot more frequent than the 3 ringers.