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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: theidealone on May 07, 2010, 02:55:44 AM

Title: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: theidealone on May 07, 2010, 02:55:44 AM
Im buying a wagon that still has A/C. The A/C doesnt blow very cold. Fuck converting to R134. That just seems like too much work, and too expensive.

What do you guys think about alternatives? Freeze-12? ES-12a? Anyone have experience with any of this non sense. Ive done a little bit of research, but its like searching on Honda-Tech, where you get a bunch of clouded biased opinions, all fucked by some propaganda and politics, mixed with some nut hugging, and a lack of real experience.

So Id rather ask you fucks.
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: caged on May 07, 2010, 03:41:52 AM
About 8 years ago I changed my car to R134 and just used the adaptor valves and vac'd it down and refilled with R134, was still cold when I sold it a year later. If you have access to A/C gear for free just try that first.
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: BenDover on May 07, 2010, 11:42:48 AM
About 8 years ago I changed my car to R134 and just used the adaptor valves and vac'd it down and refilled with R134, was still cold when I sold it a year later. If you have access to A/C gear for free just try that first.

+1 Did the same thing to my 90 camry just buy the conversion fitting(10-15$) ...make sure you add PAG oil if theres none in the system(2-3oz added if theres none) then vac it down and fill with r134a

Had it about 2years...had not one problem
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: 92CXyD on May 07, 2010, 11:45:50 AM
I know a local Taxi cab company who emptied all of there a/c system after fixing any possible leaks.

Then converted to propane as the refrigerant.

Work great. :yes:
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: dvst8r on May 07, 2010, 12:17:30 PM
I know a local Taxi cab company who emptied all of there a/c system after fixing any possible leaks.

Then converted to propane as the refrigerant.

Work great. :yes:

There was a 60minutes on that and redtek (basically over priced propane). Nothing like driving a rolling bomb.  ::)
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: SgtB on May 07, 2010, 01:24:12 PM
Don't half-ass the conversion. Mixing the two can cause "black death" and ruins the system.
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 08, 2010, 10:04:35 AM
I bought one adapter valve, once, and put it on a 90 degree R-12 adapter so I could charge as many R12 systems with R-134a as I wanted to.

Evac and vacuum the system, fill with R-134a.  It will be cold, and there is NO chemical reaction from mixing - all of that is propaganda to sell you shit you don't need.  I've been doing this for a decade now to every car I touch.
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: accordepicenter on May 10, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
i miss r12, it was a bit more efficient than 134A
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: Conceptz-X on May 10, 2010, 06:44:59 PM
propane, use a match for leak detection.  let us know how it works
Title: Re: A/C Refrigerant ALTERNATIVES???
Post by: Doug on May 10, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
Back when they quit selling R12 at Vato Zone I needed to recharge my A/C in the EF hatch. I just drained it the best I could holding the nipple down with a screw driver then put a can of the R13 with oil and the R13 without oil till it was full. Worked fine for the few years I had it after.