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Title: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 01, 2010, 01:45:15 AM
Anyone else have shitty problems all the time with Ectune like me? :?: Right now i cant get ectune to run a force update I get this message .

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F5167%2Fsscjx.jpg&hash=dad1a875549bcd5989cd20b422b310f6f592a1cd)

then I try to download a fresh version of ectune but get this when trying to download :-\

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg203.imageshack.us%2Fimg203%2F2306%2Fccsg.jpg&hash=a46c511e0bee31a2ec416841922ae593c8be674a)

Ill buy anyone a beer that can fix this  :yes:
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: t_cel_t on June 01, 2010, 02:10:24 AM
since you cant even download it i would assume the problem is on their end
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on June 01, 2010, 03:06:56 AM
yup more ectune faggotry..

Calvin need s to get his shit together and fibure out how to let us run 1 version we wish to stick with without updating should we want to haVE A stable version.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on June 01, 2010, 03:08:07 AM
im getting standard locked out message AFTER ive been told im updated
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: chris on June 01, 2010, 03:10:52 AM
Im sold not to buy ectune too many of these damn threads,what a pain.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on June 01, 2010, 03:17:15 AM
SENT:


Once again your update doesnt work, ive run force update and get the confirmation that ive got the latest but still get the
MSGID M002H OLD VERSION!!!  After running force update 3 times.

You need to figure a way out to let us use a version that is stable. WITHOUT having it time bombed so WE CAN TUNE FUCKING CARS WITH YOUR SOFTWARE WEVE PAID FOR. WHEN WE NEED TO. Its getting old. 

That should be your number one priority as far as fixes right now. As a user Im not happy, I as well as MANY others are tired of this. tHERE ARE MULTIPLE THREADS ON MULTIPLE BOARDS. dO YOU SIMPLY NOT CARE THAT YOUR USERS ARE UNHAPPY??? I hope you do, but I question it.

Please fix the download ASAP. There arfe muliple threads on boards due to this problem. The holiday is not an acceptable excuse. I need the software NOW and cant use it...  At times like this eCtune is USELESS TO ME.

please fix this issue..... Promptly



This guy is a fucking assclown
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on June 01, 2010, 03:19:53 AM
I think hes got some fucking server gayness goking down...
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: DmC on June 01, 2010, 03:43:18 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 01, 2010, 10:38:28 AM
still waiting on my tuner update.  Im sitting on the dyno right now waiting to unlock the ostrich (just need the update) to tune neptune.  Guess i'm stuck here trying to explain this to the customer....
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 01, 2010, 11:15:45 AM
I just got my Tuner update.  I'm pretty sure everyone else's stuff should be back on track.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 01, 2010, 12:46:44 PM
just got a e-mail saying their is a new force update. Ill try it when I get home.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: d112crzy on June 01, 2010, 01:26:24 PM
Anyone else have shitty problems all the time with Ectune like me? :?: Right now i cant get ectune to run a force update I get this message .

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg85.imageshack.us%2Fimg85%2F5167%2Fsscjx.jpg&hash=dad1a875549bcd5989cd20b422b310f6f592a1cd)

then I try to download a fresh version of ectune but get this when trying to download :-\

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg203.imageshack.us%2Fimg203%2F2306%2Fccsg.jpg&hash=a46c511e0bee31a2ec416841922ae593c8be674a)

Ill buy anyone a beer that can fix this  :yes:

Buy Neptune. Problem fixed. Wheres my Corona?
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: ryan89crx on June 01, 2010, 01:38:25 PM
My Force Update worked this morning. I find it funny however that the pop-up window says update BEFORE the expiration date, but won't allow you to update until the day of  :-\

I was out of a license for about a week and a half. My year expiration came on the 21st, never got a new license in my email, he didn't respond to an inquiry about it, and it wasn't until I posted in a thread on the eCtune forum that people in the same boat as me started getting any sort of help. Kind of pissed me off, I didn't have a license so I couldn't tune, and had planned on installing my new turbo early last week but couldn't because I had no way to tune the fucking thing.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: snm95ls on June 01, 2010, 01:47:02 PM
Imagine that.

Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: ryan89crx on June 01, 2010, 01:52:18 PM
The software works great...when it works. All the hoops I have to jump through to use it however, deter me from ever buying an eCtune license again for cars in the future. It's just not worth it to me. I have had a Crome license for 6 years, and NOT ONCE ever had any sort of issue like this.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: snm95ls on June 01, 2010, 01:56:25 PM
A piece of software is it is absolutely worthless when you cannot utilize it when you need to no matter how great or powerful it is.




Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 01, 2010, 08:55:11 PM
i guess it didnt matter that i got the update.....fucker was breaking up like a biyotch.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 01, 2010, 10:10:59 PM
dammit mines still fucked  >:(
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: ratcityrex on June 01, 2010, 10:24:53 PM
CROME FREE!!!! FTW!
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 01, 2010, 10:36:57 PM
rather deal with the updates than use crome.

truth.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: lilpooh21186 on June 01, 2010, 10:43:14 PM
neptune ftw never up date and you can use any pc/laptop you want with your reg key.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: d112crzy on June 02, 2010, 11:18:03 AM
rather deal with the updates than use crome.

truth.

I think you just fail at using crome. I've never had any of the issues you had.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 02, 2010, 01:51:14 PM
rather deal with the updates than use crome.

truth.

I think you just fail at using crome. I've never had any of the issues you had.

when you do, you will know how i felt.

pull 17* of timing from a JRSC B17 and feel no change in power and let me know how you feel about using that management.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: dvst8r on June 02, 2010, 02:26:18 PM
rather deal with the updates than use crome.

truth.

I think you just fail at using crome. I've never had any of the issues you had.

when you do, you will know how i felt.

pull 17* of timing from a JRSC B17 and feel no change in power and let me know how you feel about using that management.

Feel or see?
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: runsfromdacops on June 02, 2010, 02:30:01 PM
im glad i have homodata.....might suck but it works ALL the time on any comp. :evil:
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: BangBusMaster on June 02, 2010, 03:48:57 PM

pull 17* of timing from a JRSC B17 and feel no change in power and let me know how you feel about using that management.

That had not been an issue since mid-late 07'.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 02, 2010, 09:16:26 PM

pull 17* of timing from a JRSC B17 and feel no change in power and let me know how you feel about using that management.

That had not been an issue since mid-late 07'.


bout when i stopped using it  :mexi:
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 02, 2010, 09:18:46 PM
rather deal with the updates than use crome.

truth.

I think you just fail at using crome. I've never had any of the issues you had.

when you do, you will know how i felt.

pull 17* of timing from a JRSC B17 and feel no change in power and let me know how you feel about using that management.

Feel or see?

does it matter?  the WOT timing in the table was at like 5-6* of timing.  The car should have broken up, gotten incredo loud...something.  Car was the exact same.  We didnt have the version that had the ignition timing window at the bottom of the data table but we weren't stupid and we knew how the engine "should" have reacted.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 03, 2010, 11:20:50 PM
god damm calvin's worthless I e-mailed him over a week ago and he still hasnt got back to me with my new license.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: confUsed on June 05, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
I bought a demon and neptune last time I got locked out. It made it over the sea and showed up in the mail before I even got an answer from calvin. I like the software, but its worthless when its NOT WORKING. I understand he has a life and is not online 24/7 but he should have tought about that before he made the lock out crap.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 05, 2010, 04:46:11 PM
god damm calvin's worthless I e-mailed him over a week ago and he still hasnt got back to me with my new license.

He's in the hospital.    If you still need a license,  email me @ sewell94@hotmail.com from your registered email address.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: snm95ls on June 05, 2010, 09:16:55 PM
Finally got to play with Ectune again today.  It is so fucking sweet when you can actually use it.

Bah.

I guess I will be playing with Neptune next weekend.

Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: jagojon3 on June 05, 2010, 09:47:02 PM
Fuck ectune  :D
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: runsfromdacops on June 06, 2010, 02:14:48 PM
Fuck ectune  :D
this^^^
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 06, 2010, 10:33:23 PM
Jon, Alex, you guys really hurt my livelihood when you say that.  I'm not saying there isn't a problem here - all of the complaints tell the story - but as an authorized tuner I simply don;t have these problems, nor do my customers.  Further, I'm pretty confident that half these complaints are due to people not up to speed with the technology, and they want to bitch before they click two buttons because they are angry that they have difficulty logging into their hotmail accounts.

That said, when multiple people have legitimately TRIED in the manner that Juston/DRQPQUT has, including having technically adept individuals step in to give it a whirl, *yes* I agree there is something wrong. Both Dave Lee and JOSH ROSS (Calvin knows that name, and that he is crafty) have attempted to get DRQPQUT's setup working, fiery fail.  So, I don't doubt that there is a legitimate end user complexity problem, and yes I agree that things should be streamlined.  Especially for a dying platform like OBD1 Honda.

Anyway, to bring things around full circle.  Jon, you've milked a 170 whp setup for nine or ten years now, and tuned zero other vehicles to the best of my knowledge.  Alex, your shit has six boost scalars where I would normally have 12+ which makes for LOL resolution, as well as a shitty interface and they sued one of my best friends in the world for not removing some software from pgmfi.org within NINE LONG HOURS of it being posted.  Since the general legally accepted time frame is 24-48 hours it was thrown out, but not after he personally ran up a $35K legal bill in the name of open source software.  I know you are personal friends with Jeff Frank, but I *will* have you banned from here if you make another fucking pro-I-still-have-timing-control-problems-Hondata remark.  Neither of the assholes flown in to your hometown to tune cars, much less Dave Lee, care for Hyundaidata - think about it.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: jagojon3 on June 06, 2010, 10:41:54 PM
Lol, JD is butt hurt. Does it really cost you money when I say fuck ectune? You don't know about other cars I've tuned because I don't advertise and only do it for local folks. 170 whp, lol again. The longest I've ever had any setup is under 3 years.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 06, 2010, 10:53:05 PM
Lol, JD is butt hurt. Does it really cost you money when I say fuck ectune?

Not yet, but I know very well how bandwagons are started.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 06, 2010, 11:08:09 PM
Lol, JD is butt hurt. Does it really cost you money when I say fuck ectune?

Not yet, but I know very well how bandwagons are started.

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gifbin.com%2Fbin%2F1233928590_citizen+kane+clapping.gif&hash=18618ad592dc8b31fc9c20a8abb791d34099eaaf) (http://www.gifbin.com/982166)
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 06, 2010, 11:32:38 PM
how much does calvin charge you for license fees Joseph?  Sewell?

i know quite a few people who get treated VERY differently than the rest of calvins tuners, not to mention get free/cheap license fees for their customers.   I probably wouldnt complain or have problems with ectune either if i had those kind of connections and make that much more money per tune or be able to charge a customer that much less to make my prices look that much more appealing.

I have only tuned a handful of cars with neptune, yet james answers every text, every phone call and every email I ever send him and he does it without a condescending tone regardless of the question or inquiry.  Hook, line, sinker.  Done.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 12:09:48 AM
how much does calvin charge you for license fees Joseph?  Sewell?

i know quite a few people who get treated VERY differently than the rest of calvins tuners, not to mention get free/cheap license fees for their customers. 

When Calvin has 50 Authorized Tuners and gets six license fees in one month, he's pretty unhappy.

I've been given lists of chips I've burned, and I reconciled them to Paypal IDs, and the feeling I've gotten since is that  at some point he knew I was honest and let me be.  There are, however, 40-45 of you assholes who are in question, and Calvin's gotten tired of being everyone's mom.  I understand completely why everyone in this thread is unhappy - and I understand 110% why Calvin's paranoia concerning piracy has created this situation - but you have to understand why Calvin's unhappy.  Do you like working your ass off to not get paid?

Again, this thread exists for people like Justin/DRQPQUT, everyone else can line up to fuck off.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on June 07, 2010, 12:29:35 AM
thats not what i asked but ok.

i've heard the reasons he isnt happy but frankly that has jack shit to do with me, people like me who dont tune as often, or his consumers that have problems.  I do work my ass off and i still get paid shit for my day job, so yes, i know exactly how he feels. 

I'm lucky to tune 2-3 cars a month in this area.  LUCKY.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 12:38:11 AM
thats not what i asked but ok.

I'm not going to answer that ok.  I'm not starting that pissing match.


i've heard the reasons he isnt happy but frankly that has jack shit to do with me, people like me who dont tune as often, or his consumers that have problems.  I do work my ass off and i still get paid shit for my day job, so yes, i know exactly how he feels. 

I'm lucky to tune 2-3 cars a month in this area.  LUCKY.

I don't live in an area that's remotely as populated as yours.  I could cut a swath through Florida in about zero point four seconds.  That being said, I probably tune as many Hondas a month as you do.  1-2 Fords, 1-2 NisAnd because I'm an intellectual being, , a Scoob, and something else thrown into the mix somewhere along the line.  Shit would pick up if I had a dyno, like you do, but not nearly as much as I'd like.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 07, 2010, 12:51:37 AM
Id pay extra if my ectune would just work and not have to deal with updates that fuck up  >:(
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 07, 2010, 12:54:30 AM
thats not what i asked but ok.

I'm not going to answer that ok.  I'm not starting that pissing match.




Its noone elses business what i pay for license fee's, i dont have a problem telling you what it is, but i'm not going to throw it out in public like that. Kinda rude to even ask.

NOW i do agree things need to change, and its being worked on.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 01:50:28 AM
There's a couple of things that annoy me about you, Sewell, and they are mostly that you insert yourself into situations that I don't act on.  However, your ability to get all parties involved talking, constructively, cannot be denied and I'd gladly sign this forum over to you if you could get the ball rolling here.  THANK YOU!
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 88dx on June 07, 2010, 02:03:05 AM
Can i have it JD? I dont know a dam thing about anything but im pretty much a badass
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 02:04:59 AM
You are the only person who didn't show up to the dyno day who is a badass, sir.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 07, 2010, 03:08:52 AM
your ability to get all parties involved talking, constructively, cannot be denied and I'd gladly sign this forum over to you if you could get the ball rolling here.  THANK YOU!

Thank-you i like to see people get along, I've been working on this situation for YEARS, but i feel confident i've almost got it resolved.  Calvin spent a week at my place, and this was a topic that has was talked about for whole evening.  Calvin lives in a south american country, and the thinking is different, we see it as business being missed out on/hurting business, he see's this security as a requirement,  as if he's being stolen from.


There's a couple of things that annoy me about you, Sewell, and they are mostly that you insert yourself into situations that I don't act on. 

 For just a post or fifty, Could we focus on this whole what annoys you about me thing. Am i reading it correct that your saying i stick my nose in places it shouldn't be, are you saying thats a good thing or a bad thing?
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: j.h.christ on June 07, 2010, 04:40:32 AM
You are the only person who didn't show up to the dyno day who is a badass, sir.

FUCK YOU
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 09:25:11 AM
your ability to get all parties involved talking, constructively, cannot be denied and I'd gladly sign this forum over to you if you could get the ball rolling here.  THANK YOU!

Thank-you i like to see people get along, I've been working on this situation for YEARS, but i feel confident i've almost got it resolved.  Calvin spent a week at my place, and this was a topic that has was talked about for whole evening.  Calvin lives in a south american country, and the thinking is different, we see it as business being missed out on/hurting business, he see's this security as a requirement,  as if he's being stolen from.

I can understand that, but Chris put it best.  You can't cripple the software's usage or the buying public buys something else.  At the end of the day you need just enough copy protection to keep the honest people honest.  I don't think Calvin fully understands how fat and lazy Americans are, if they can hit a Buy It Now button for a hundred fifty on a software that is a joy to use then it's easier than trying to figure out a way around copy protection.   


There's a couple of things that annoy me about you, Sewell, and they are mostly that you insert yourself into situations that I don't act on. 

 For just a post or fifty, Could we focus on this whole what annoys you about me thing. Am i reading it correct that your saying i stick my nose in places it shouldn't be, are you saying thats a good thing or a bad thing?

Reread that, Speed Racer.  It's actually a backhanded comment on my own style of inaction.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigwig on June 07, 2010, 10:42:09 AM
I would probably have a lot to say on this subject 2-3 years ago, but now, I don't care.  Don't buy Ectune if you don't want to deal with Calvin.  Neptune is always an option.  I'll never suggest Hondata.  Crome is still an option if you're looking to be more cost effective.

I will say one thing, forced update are a terrible idea.  One day Calvin is going to make a mistake and release some bad code.  On a good day where a lot of people are tuning their cars, he could end up having a very bad day with a lot of engines coming back in pieces.  All the other security measures aside, I really don't like forced updates and think he should make updating more elective.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
I will say one thing, forced update are a terrible idea.  One day Calvin is going to make a mistake and release some bad code.  On a good day where a lot of people are tuning their cars, he could end up having a very bad day with a lot of engines coming back in pieces.  All the other security measures aside, I really don't like forced updates and think he should make updating more elective.

It's forced updates of the GUI, not the code.

Most bad code manifests as stupid stuff.  What you propose is equally likely with Hondata, NIStune, or HP Tuners. 

OK
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigwig on June 07, 2010, 12:20:49 PM
I will say one thing, forced update are a terrible idea.  One day Calvin is going to make a mistake and release some bad code.  On a good day where a lot of people are tuning their cars, he could end up having a very bad day with a lot of engines coming back in pieces.  All the other security measures aside, I really don't like forced updates and think he should make updating more elective.

It's forced updates of the GUI, not the code.

Most bad code manifests as stupid stuff.  What you propose is equally likely with Hondata, NIStune, or HP Tuners. 

OK

Most bad code may manifest as stupid stuff, but surely not all of it.  Tweaking the GUI can still result in code change.  Forced updates are a bad idea.  It really doesn't matter who is doing the update.  I don't trust auto updates.

OKAY
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 07, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
And you can get hit by busses when you cross the street.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 07, 2010, 02:24:40 PM

Reread that, Speed Racer.  It's actually a backhanded comment on my own style of inaction.

i was what i thought i read, but i just had to make sure. Its easier to knock myself first and work from there :)
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: sewell94 on June 30, 2010, 12:32:27 AM
There's a couple of things that annoy me about you, Sewell, and they are mostly that you insert yourself into situations that I don't act on.  However, your ability to get all parties involved talking, constructively, cannot be denied and I'd gladly sign this forum over to you if you could get the ball rolling here.  THANK YOU!

SO have i quoted this for Truth???

How about co mods??

:)

Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 30, 2010, 05:09:42 AM
There's a couple of things that annoy me about you, Sewell, and they are mostly that you insert yourself into situations that I don't act on.  However, your ability to get all parties involved talking, constructively, cannot be denied and I'd gladly sign this forum over to you if you could get the ball rolling here.  THANK YOU!

SO have i quoted this for Truth???

How about co mods??

:)



Jeff Frank has to call you a nigger for three years first, it's a prerequisite of the job, apparently.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: chris on June 30, 2010, 05:54:27 AM
crome 1.2 works great
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 92CXyD on June 30, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Well I was think EcTune might not be for b/c of the forced up dates but just saw that on the next updated you will nit have to worry about that anymore.

http://forum.ectune.com/viewtopic.php?t=2698 (http://forum.ectune.com/viewtopic.php?t=2698)

So now I need to order this. :yes:
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: chris on June 30, 2010, 04:49:12 PM
Good move!
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 92CXyD on June 30, 2010, 04:50:50 PM
Good move!

Thanks
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on June 30, 2010, 06:23:11 PM
THANK FUCKING GOD
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: snm95ls on June 30, 2010, 06:47:12 PM
Yes!  Now I will have to scrounge up some cash to get an Ectune license.

 ;D
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: ryan89crx on June 30, 2010, 09:26:11 PM
About time. Hopefully it's all smooth sailing from now on.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: d112crzy on June 30, 2010, 10:54:08 PM
Why not Neptune?
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: theidealone on July 01, 2010, 12:16:45 AM
Fuckin bastard. I would have bought eCtune, if he did this a few months ago... Might have to buy a license down the road, just because. I like that both softwares work on the same hardware, unlike Chondata.
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: 98vtec on July 01, 2010, 01:45:44 AM
Fuckin bastard. I would have bought eCtune, if he did this a few months ago... Might have to buy a license down the road, just because. I like that both softwares work on the same hardware, unlike homodata.

fixed
Title: Re: Force update problems?
Post by: HiProfile on July 01, 2010, 11:14:09 PM
Hopefully it's all smooth sailing from now on.

Yeah, just after the next forced update. I love the irony.