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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 2slow on June 16, 2010, 08:30:31 AM
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Say a company comes out with coupons. Then an employee hoards the coupons. Then the employee uses the coupons when customer pays cash, and pockets the savings from the coupon. I cant figure out if this is illegal or not. I know i can be fired for it, but can i be arrested? Its such easy money that it has to be illegal.
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Yeah it is illegal b/c your ripping off the customer. Seen this done in the retail discount parts biz. most likely you would only get fired.
Depends on your job's accounting and asset protection management how long you can get with it before your caught. :?:
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See i was thinking more along the lines of it ripping the company off of their advertising money. I know when the coupons come out and i go get them before anyone else can. Its been going on since the day i started and i have been at the same place for over a year. If they fire me i wont care because thats the only way to make money there.
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then do it
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Just don't get caught, problem solved.
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The customer is unaware of the discount and doesn't have the coupon, therefore you're only screwing the company. Most companies use statistics and they'll become suspicious-
IE:
Cashier A: Total # of transactions 2,000 (Let's say this is the average)
Total # of coupons received 40 (2% of the total transactions)
Cashier B: Total # of transactions 1,500 (Let's say this is you)
Total # of coupons received 150 (10%)
Of course these are completely made up, but if your numbers are 5 times higher, they'll figure it out. But, it really depends on the company. Yes it's illegal... I dunno if they'd call it theft or embezzlement, the 2nd one sounds classier.
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Regardless of it being legal or not, it does make you a piece of shit.
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ZING!
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i dont think it makes you a piece of shit. If that counts for anything, ha.
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If you have to ask if this is illegal, you are a stupid sack of shit.
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If you have to ask if this is illegal, you are a stupid sack of shit.
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are you niggers acually that hard up that you need to risk loosing your job over a couple $1.50 off coupons ???
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hot pockets in my pussy
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if you are gonna edit my post at least leave what i said.
or are you upset that your boyfriend can't spell losing?
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get it right bitch, I cant spell anything properly.
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sure you did princess.
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Actually each one is $10 off so it turns a $100 dollar shift into a $200 shift. If im a stupid sack of shit jago care to explain what law says i cant do it?
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Many. It's fraud, plain and simple. Could also be considered embezzlement.
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Do it. You'll be a Robin Hood to the poor (you)
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i can't believe someone is this fucking stupid.
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If im a stupid sack of shit jago care to explain what law says i cant do it?
i can't believe someone is this fucking stupid.
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If im a stupid sack of shit jago care to explain what law says i cant do it?
i can't believe someone is this fucking stupid.
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It just helps prove the point that there is no bottom to stupidity.
:(
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Stickied for a bit
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thats what she said
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zing
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I did not ask if it was stupid. It might be, but at the same time on the average month its an extra $600-$750 of untaxed money in my pocket. And i figured it was illegal based on how easy it was to make that money. I would not calll it fraud because the company hands them out to be used so i use them. Im basically trading the company 1 coupon for ten dollars. Every time i enter the coupon into the transaction im asking the company to trade, and every time it accepts. Jago if you came to my city i would give you one so you can save money :)
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You are skimming the drawer, the feds will love you for embezzlement.
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imo that's stealing. that's like stealing from the company. If you wanna screw over the company why not just give the unknowing customers the coupons? Of course this would yeild no extra dollars in your pocket, but makes less money for the company.
besides if you do that, doesn't it so up on the customers reciept that a discount was applied? So now if the customer tries to get a refund, then you are stealing from the customer.
I'd do if if there is no reciept for the customer, MAYBE.
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i think your plan qualifies as lightwieght jammin my nigga
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i think your plan qualifies as lightwieght jammin my nigga
agreed
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Well i probably should have mentioned that this is going down in a restraunt so they wont be coming back for a refund
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Well i probably should have mentioned that this is going down in a restraunt so they wont be coming back for a refund
If it's a chain/corporately owned restaurant you'll get caught pretty quick since there are accountants that sift the statistics pretty thoroughly. Accountant = someone who can do simple math and balance a checkbook, and other middleschool level math.
If it's an independent affair, uhm, one in a hundred servers can balance their paperwork correctly at the end of a night, and the ones picked to be managers aren't picked for their math skillz. Owner/operators are classically fools floating on parental or drug money, and even if they purchase a top of the line POS system that gives them all pertinent sales trends and statistics they are ultimately innumerate fools who don't know how to interpret numbers.
Owner: "Joseph, your weekly sales are 75% that of the other servers. You need to work on that or we'll have to let you go."
Me: "I'm only scheduled three days per week and everyone else is scheduled five days. That means I am here 60% as much as they are, so to net 75% of their sales means I am selling more per hour on the floor than they are. Further, I've left early at least one night a week for the last couple months because everything's been slow, which means my per-hour sales are through the roof compared to anyone else on the floor."
Owner (huffy): "That's not how it works."
Me: "Then why does that report you're holding also show that I have the highest per head and per table sales of anyone on staff? Look, down here it shows my per-hour sales and it's quite a bit higher than everyone else's."
The dildo would walk away mumbling to himself angrily, and then be back two weeks later with the exact same horseshit. It's not that he personally wanted me gone - he had no problem firing anyone for petty reasons - he was honestly that stupid.
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wow. thats incredibly stupid.
that statement applies to the post above mine and the original post.
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jd is a waitress
and i am a princess
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jd is a waitress
It's been a couple years, but I'd do it 2-3 nights a week if I could. Unrelenting geekery fucks my social skills.
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wine saleswoman, waitress, mother - you do it all! :-*
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wine saleswoman, waitress, mother - you do it all! :-*
I'm also an expert at soldering two wires together, don't forget that.
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wine saleswoman, waitress, mother - you do it all! :-*
I'm also an expert at soldering two wires together, don't forget that.
And winnin ats dem rrgewmints witchur beeg werds
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why is this stickied?.
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why is this stickied?.
So the Authorities know who to question later. ;D
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thought provoking discussion req sticky
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First check your company's SOP (standard op procedures) if they say not to do what you're doing. That way you can claim ignorance (sounds like you could use that regardless).
Next look into how they treat coupons. If you're not supposed to hand them out, you'll probably be fired w/o warnings.
Third look into how they handle tipping. Usually it goes into a jar and is split by some method at the end of the night.
Lastly, if all the above looks golden and someone gets pissy, you can get crafty. Just say each time you hand out a coupon to promote word-of-mouth promotion of the establishment. And each time they just happen to hand you a $10 tip.
jd is a waitress
It's been a couple years, but I'd do it 2-3 nights a week if I could. Unrelenting geekery fucks my social skills.
Why would I not be surprised if your pink slip included "then Mr Davis overturned the table while shouting, HOWS THAT FOR FLUID MECHANICS?!"?
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jd is a waitress
It's been a couple years, but I'd do it 2-3 nights a week if I could. Unrelenting geekery fucks my social skills.
Why would I not be surprised if your pink slip included "then Mr Davis overturned the table while shouting, HOWS THAT FOR FLUID MECHANICS?!"?
Sir, such an exit line is the stuff of legends.
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Why would I not be surprised if your pink slip included "then Mr Davis overturned the table while shouting, HOWS THAT FOR FLUID MECHANICS?!"?
That actually had me laughing for a good bit.
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yeah illegal, seen my buddy do this and get like 300$ from it. he had to reimburse shaws for it or he was going to jail.
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yeah illegal, seen my buddy do this and get like 300$ from it. he had to reimburse shaws for it or he was going to jail.
You sir need to shut the hell up until you make a proper intro post.
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Wheres the porn fag?
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Wheres the porn fag?
revisit my thread niglet.
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since its july is this still illegal or is it ok now and we can unsticky
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since its july is this still illegal or is it ok now and we can unsticky
Its patriotic and we should celebrate it. Amurica! FUCK YEAH!!
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I used 5 tonight
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sweet, how much extra did you make?
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$50 i feel bad sometimes, but then again i only make $2.13/hr and i have to tip out alot of money to the hostess,buss boy, and bartender. On an average friday night my madatory tip out is $20-$30. Its based off my sales. Its 3.83% of my sales. Also im not allowed to add gratuity to large parties. So if i have a table of ten and their bill is $200 im tipping out $7 whether the table tips me or not. Its really gay. So sometimes the coupons are just an equalizer for the cocksuckers that dont tip
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$50 i feel bad sometimes, but then again i only make $2.13/hr and i have to tip out alot of money to the hostess,buss boy, and bartender. On an average friday night my madatory tip out is $20-$30. Its based off my sales. Its 3.83% of my sales. Also im not allowed to add gratuity to large parties. So if i have a table of ten and their bill is $200 im tipping out $7 whether the table tips me or not. Its really gay. So sometimes the coupons are just an equalizer for the cocksuckers that dont tip
$25 at 3.83% equals $652 in sales. I'd usually clear $110-130 after tip out on those sales.
If you get stiffed a lot, you either work at a redneck $10/plate dive where they come in to be waited on by semi-attractive trailersluts and are pissed off to see you, or you fucking suck and should either learn how to correctly drop a plate of food or get a different job.
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Sad I deliver for Domino's 2-3 dys/wk and make an avg. of $65/2hrs cash for tips.
I only have to report $2/dy plus what is added by the customer on the CC slip at the time of delivery.
It helps to drive a civic and get 35mpg+ in town w/ really low maintenance cost. :yes: ;D
What does suck is when you delivery a ton of pizzas to a church function and you get nothing for a tip. :?:
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I was saying i have to pay 3.83% of my sales. My average tip is 18%~25%,but 3.83% is what a i have to pay the hostess for sitting me. If i do 600 in sales id be pissed if i made anything under $120. I do get stiffed from time to time, because unfortunatly black people, teenagers, and whitetrash get hungry.
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obama just signed a new bill into law making this legal so we can unsticky this thread. yeay, moving on...
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2slow have you been busted yet?
just curious. ;D
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Nope not yet. I doubt ill actually be caught though. This place is more ignorant to shit like this then one would think.
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the funny thing is, 4 other servers, the supervisors and HNIC probably doing it to and have posted the same question on another forum....
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Stevemode unstickied this so it is now up to us to bump it daily so no one ever forgets.
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bump
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6/16/10
nevarrr forget
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lol at this threads lifespan. I'm still with the same company doing the same thing. they have made it harder, but its a worthless cheap company that finds every loophole in the world to make a few dollars off its employees. one Guy got caught but he used a coupon on a credit card. that sent a redflag to corperate HQ and they caught him.
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Find a different job if you can?
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Useless faggots have no other skills. Here's to global economic collapse so that people like him die. :?:
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What about me?
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You'll have to hop off of the fence. Pick a side, any side.
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Useless faggots have no other skills. Here's to global economic collapse so that people like him die. :?:
I highly doubt the global economic collapse will kill me ;) . I have plenty of skills. the reason I still have this job is because of comfort and I don't really know what I'm going to pursue as far as a career goes. it would be pretty foolish to dump a lot of loot and time into a career that may vanish in a few years.