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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: narfdanarf on July 09, 2010, 06:48:22 PM

Title: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 09, 2010, 06:48:22 PM
So what would rHMT do if they were given the option of purchasing a c5 convertible 6spd vette with blown motor?  Also what kind of software for tuning said cars?  I kinda just want to buy it, replace motor and profit, but kinda want a quick twin turbo or nitrous daily driver.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 09, 2010, 06:50:34 PM
I know someone thats got an LS6 Swap for sale   :yes: 

Motor ecu and harness..... A tad above 2Gs he wants i do believe...
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: ghettoturbo on July 09, 2010, 06:52:26 PM
You left out the most important part....the price
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: narfdanarf on July 09, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
haha i should buy that for my 240....found a ls1 longblock for 1500.  If I get the car, I will have exhaust funds and any other mods/fixes are gonna have to be dirt cheap.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: narfdanarf on July 09, 2010, 06:55:59 PM
You left out the most important part....the price

Prolly get it for $7kish...I'm going to go look at it tonight. I think decent condition verts sell for about 13-15k still?
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 09, 2010, 06:57:51 PM
Have fun putting in a new engine.  You NEED a lift.  Its a fucking bitch.  I did a clutch on one and I will NEVER do it again.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 09, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
Somewhere Johnny coolest guy ever is in a corner.. weeping, while he masturbates.  :noel:
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: narfdanarf on July 09, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
I am not really asking if I should buy it (because as long as the rest of the car looks decent I intend to) I am more asking what would you do to make it awesome/rHMT style.  IE am I better off to put a LSx motor in it or can I buy a shitty blown up 454 off craigslist and drop that in with a little work.  Or should I really piss everyone off and put a s2k motor in it...LOL
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: gringotegra on July 09, 2010, 07:42:47 PM
I am not really asking if I should buy it (because as long as the rest of the car looks decent I intend to) I am more asking what would you do to make it awesome/rHMT style.  IE am I better off to put a LSx motor in it or can I buy a shitty blown up 454 off craigslist and drop that in with a little work.  Or should I really piss everyone off and put a s2k motor in it...LOL

That would piss some people off for sure!! you could do it like those guys that put the 2jz in a 69 camaro...they really pissed some people off!! hahaha
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Jorsher on July 09, 2010, 07:48:25 PM
The "cred" you'll get for being unique would not overcome the mockery you'd surely endure for replacing a big-displacement v8 with a little 4 banger.  It'd be good for lulz and that's about it...

C5s are pretty darn cheap-ish now.  I guess if you aren't worried about being raped by insurance/gas/maintenance then grab it.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: runsfromdacops on July 09, 2010, 08:19:23 PM
2jz into the vett  :yes:
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 09, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
Ls6 s400 800 on stock internals profit.....
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 09, 2010, 08:45:44 PM
Ls6 s400 800 on stock internals profit.....

This
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 09, 2010, 08:52:55 PM
You left out the most important part....the price

Prolly get it for $7kish...I'm going to go look at it tonight. I think decent condition verts sell for about 13-15k still?

In this economy you can buy C5's for $9-10K.  You really want to foot the repair bill plus nightmare labor on a shoehorned in drivetrain to do a job that costs more than the price difference?
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 09, 2010, 08:56:13 PM
Wait, nevermind, you have a 840 and soon to be + whp moneypit, that probably sounds like a good idea to you.


Overpay for the goddamn thing, and then turn around and drop a 6.0 truck motor in it.  Slip a cam in it, big diameter long tubes, and tune = 500 whp on a Mustang dyno.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: ironcrx on July 09, 2010, 09:12:47 PM
D15b2 with a Z6 mini-me and turbo nigga  O0
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 09, 2010, 10:25:19 PM
Wait, nevermind, you have a 840 and soon to be + whp moneypit, that probably sounds like a good idea to you.


Overpay for the goddamn thing, and then turn around and drop a 6.0 truck motor in it.  Slip a cam in it, big diameter long tubes, and tune = 500 whp on a Mustang dyno.


Joey, you know how stupid putting a iron block in a corvette is.  Contrary to what everyone thinks, corvettes handle damn good, maybe not s2k good, but still pretty damn good, an iron block would fuck it up bigtime. But yes, just drop a ls6 in it, some nice heads and a cam and make 500+ NA and then stick a 150 shot and make 700ish and call it a day.  By then, guaranteed, it'll smoke your civic on the street.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: colt45 on July 09, 2010, 11:44:14 PM
didnt johnny turbo his corvette?
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: turbob16hatch on July 09, 2010, 11:55:33 PM
Wait, nevermind, you have a 840 and soon to be + whp moneypit, that probably sounds like a good idea to you.


Overpay for the goddamn thing, and then turn around and drop a 6.0 truck motor in it.  Slip a cam in it, big diameter long tubes, and tune = 500 whp on a Mustang dyno.


Joey, you know how stupid putting a iron block in a corvette is.  Contrary to what everyone thinks, corvettes handle damn good, maybe not s2k good, but still pretty damn good, an iron block would fuck it up bigtime. But yes, just drop a ls6 in it, some nice heads and a cam and make 500+ NA and then stick a 150 shot and make 700ish and call it a day.  By then, guaranteed, it'll smoke your civic on the street.

Some how i doubt putting a 50-75 lb heavier engine in a corvette will "fuck shit up". but what do i know  :?:

Plus one engine is $500-800 and the other is $2k plus  :?:
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: narfdanarf on July 10, 2010, 12:58:31 AM
Well nevermind on that deal, just got back from checking it out.  Car looked like it was ran through a sandblaster/brillo pad car wash and then someone decided to put out 50 cigarette butts onto the seats.  Combine that with the fact it had no title and I went ahead and passed LOL.


Sidenote I got a 240sx for free, and now I need to figure out what to do with it...it also doesn't run.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 01:02:02 AM
yea fuck no title, i passed on two FD'd cuz of that
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Phate on July 10, 2010, 01:16:57 AM
Well nevermind on that deal, just got back from checking it out.  Car looked like it was ran through a sandblaster/brillo pad car wash and then someone decided to put out 50 cigarette butts onto the seats.  Combine that with the fact it had no title and I went ahead and passed LOL.


Sidenote I got a 240sx for free, and now I need to figure out what to do with it...it also doesn't run.

VH45DE.  Do it.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: asx on July 10, 2010, 02:15:47 AM
put whatever motor + turbo you can get for cheapest and sell that shit to a highschool drift star
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: boosted wagon on July 10, 2010, 02:39:09 AM
2JZ+TH400  :noel:
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 10, 2010, 02:42:39 AM
2jz in that car = fail
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 04:28:19 AM
It'd be blasphemy to put anything but a lsx in there.  Lsx are the best engines evar, evar.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: boosted wagon on July 10, 2010, 04:36:27 AM
2jz in that car = fail

Why.It is proven a great combo.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: 2slow on July 10, 2010, 05:08:56 AM
2jzs are not cheap and the car wouldnt be worth what you had into it. Just because superstreet mag says its cool doesnt mean it is
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: runsfromdacops on July 10, 2010, 09:02:03 AM
2JZ+TH400  :noel:
+ ford 9", tubs and 275 m&h s

the 240 will be a savege street car
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 10, 2010, 09:12:13 AM
2jz in that car = fail

Why.It is proven a great combo.

Youre JDM fanboi faggot side is showing. If that car gets ANYTHING else, it gets a stroked Truck block in it with a big. BIG hairdryer.... Fuck a 2JZ. GAY, like the AIDS growing in your fathers cum drenched anal canal.   TH400 Definately, but If youre going to try to spend a bunch of money unneccesarily, A 2JZ is a fucking piss poor faggot choice.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: TheMadScientist on July 10, 2010, 11:19:34 AM
CA18DET FTW dirt cheap can make decent power and handle it well.
However, if its a DOHC KA24 (DE) then rebuild that and turbo it.
Those are your most economical choices, for making profit.
Otherwise stuff the biggest V8 you can get for the cheapest add turbo or 2 for tire smoking fun
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: random-strike on July 10, 2010, 02:59:18 PM
C5 are a bitch to r and r an engine. They take the entire thing out the bottom still attached to all the suspension at the dship

F working on. A c5 or c6

C4 is enough of a pita
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 03:00:49 PM
C5 are a bitch to r and r an engine. They take the entire thing out the bottom still attached to all the suspension at the dship

F working on. A c5 or c6

C4 is enough of a pita

Agreed with Bliss.  Its a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: boosted wagon on July 10, 2010, 04:21:57 PM
2jzs are not cheap and the car wouldnt be worth what you had into it. Just because superstreet mag says its cool doesnt mean it is

$1000 is pretty pricey? Def i was wrong who would be stupid enough to buy a motor for $1000 that can make 700whp without being built. It is probably the cheapest way to go fast these days.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 04:32:18 PM
how much does fuel control cost for a 2jz? I only have one friend with a supra and he spent WAYyyy too much on some AEM bs.  I dont know if there is something cheaper.  LSx are easy and cheap to tune, and they love spray.   LSX> 2jz.  2jz is just some gay ricer shit.

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heres his supra, been broken for 4 years cuz the stock turbos blew.  I dont even think these cars look that nice anymore  ???
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: boosted wagon on July 10, 2010, 06:00:06 PM
LSX > 2JZ I agree. The only issue is it is going to cost way more to go fast in a LSX. The 2JZ is a gay ricer motor for sure but it is the only engine that will put a good chassis in the 8's without being built. On a budget it cant be beat. Engine management there is a lots of options available. If you got lots of dollars for the project I would go LS1 as well.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 10, 2010, 06:21:56 PM
Round here stock block LSx make 700 +. WITH A SHIT TON MORE TQ THAN A 2GAYZ
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: narfdanarf on July 10, 2010, 06:24:29 PM
I would like to know where people are buying 2jz for $1k...even so the 240 project is going to be done dirty and cheap....I'm thinking about a 302 and spray.  Can't you find those motors for like $100?
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: civiceggturbo on July 10, 2010, 06:39:26 PM
I can get 2jz non turbo motors for under 200 all day from the pick n pull, do a cheap rebuild a your set
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: turbob16hatch on July 10, 2010, 06:47:21 PM
there is 2 locals that have built 2jz n/a engines that run 8's in a probe and a supra. there stupid fast and pretty cheap to run. i think there running glides in them. the supra guy broke ALOT of 2jzge stock block records. So.... there not just ricer shit engines.

funny how bdvt says that when he has the most bastard honda engine the coveted H22....  :?:

No one can ever say a lsx is a shit engine there freaking unbelievable how much power there making now on stock bottom ends. :noel:
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 07:09:03 PM
there is 2 locals that have built 2jz n/a engines that run 8's in a probe and a supra. there stupid fast and pretty cheap to run. i think there running glides in them. the supra guy broke ALOT of 2jzge stock block records. So.... there not just ricer shit engines.

funny how bdvt says that when he has the most bastard honda engine the coveted H22....  :?:

No one can ever say a lsx is a shit engine there freaking unbelievable how much power there making now on stock bottom ends. :noel:

Dont get me wrong, I have respect for the 2jz engine, but the entire LSx line is fucking amazing, but they are expensive.  A LS1 is the shittiest of the BEST engines, and it will still make 650rwhp all day no sweat on a stock block boosted, its amazing how much they can make with so little boost aswell.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Robb on July 10, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
With regards to price, the truck long blocks are going for $500 on average. N/a 2jz are roughly the same price, but all things being equal the v8 will always make more torque, and bolting it to a th350/400 is much cheaper than the 2jz. The big advantage the v8 has over the 2jz is spool time and powerband. With the ficticious number of 700whp being thrown around, both engines will at minimum need torn down for more p2w clearance to last. Weight is a non issue, as both are very heavy and at that point a worthless arguement. Cost of engine management is significantly cheaper for the v8, and has more support.

With equal amounts of $$$ involved, the v8 comes out on top. The 2jz is very robust unit, but horsepower to $ goes to the v8, as well as replacement parts, since there are many more third-gen v8s on the planet than jz.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 09:04:21 PM
The v8 will have a better powerband aswell, instead of the 2jz which is only  good for freeway roll racing.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 10, 2010, 09:13:54 PM
With regards to price, the truck long blocks are going for $500 on average. N/a 2jz are roughly the same price, but all things being equal the v8 will always make more torque, and bolting it to a th350/400 is much cheaper than the 2jz. The big advantage the v8 has over the 2jz is spool time and powerband. With the ficticious number of 700whp being thrown around, both engines will at minimum need torn down for more p2w clearance to last. Weight is a non issue, as both are very heavy and at that point a worthless arguement. Cost of engine management is significantly cheaper for the v8, and has more support.

With equal amounts of $$$ involved, the v8 comes out on top. The 2jz is very robust unit, but horsepower to $ goes to the v8, as well as replacement parts, since there are many more third-gen v8s on the planet than jz.

I assure you the 700 isnt a ficticious nuber on a stock bottom end.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 09:27:59 PM
Fatman, you need to get rid of that accord and get yourself a V8
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 10, 2010, 10:00:18 PM
With regards to price, the truck long blocks are going for $500 on average. N/a 2jz are roughly the same price, but all things being equal the v8 will always make more torque, and bolting it to a th350/400 is much cheaper than the 2jz. The big advantage the v8 has over the 2jz is spool time and powerband. With the ficticious number of 700whp being thrown around, both engines will at minimum need torn down for more p2w clearance to last. Weight is a non issue, as both are very heavy and at that point a worthless arguement. Cost of engine management is significantly cheaper for the v8, and has more support.

With equal amounts of $$$ involved, the v8 comes out on top. The 2jz is very robust unit, but horsepower to $ goes to the v8, as well as replacement parts, since there are many more third-gen v8s on the planet than jz.

I assure you the 700 isnt a ficticious nuber on a stock bottom end.


Maybe on a Dynojet.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 10, 2010, 10:55:58 PM
SOryy assclowns, but its not UNCOIMMON for people to make 700WHP on STOCK LSx shit. Regardless of how you want to try and discredit it... Its done. Evidentlyt more than youre aware... Maybe you should read up
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 10, 2010, 11:38:06 PM
SOryy assclowns, but its not UNCOIMMON for people to make 700WHP on STOCK LSx shit. Regardless of how you want to try and discredit it... Its done. Evidentlyt more than youre aware... Maybe you should read up

Maybe you should read up on the post you disagreed with, tubs.  Rob was talking about 2JZ, not LSx.  2JZ will make 700, sure, but they don't last very long in stock bottom end trim.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 12:03:53 AM
same with the ls1, pushing 700 daily is a bit much, probably the max you'd wanna go, itll do 600 all day long easily.
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: Robb on July 11, 2010, 12:15:57 AM
Brian, I didn't make myself clear, jd is correct, I'm all for cheap v8 power.

The limitiing factor in both engines is p2w clearance.

The 2jz doesn't have a strong bottom end IMHO. It has an efficient combustion chamber and high port velocity, that's all. Liter for liter the 4g63 is stronger than the 2jz. Its not the end-all the fanbois think it is.

2jz are also more difficult to work on, imo. When LSx aren't in an f-body, they are fucking gravy to fix. Ever seen the engine bay of a gto?

Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: HiProfile on July 11, 2010, 03:40:27 AM
then turn around and drop a 6.0 truck motor in it.  Slip a cam in it, big diameter long tubes, and tune = 500 whp on a Mustang dyno.

Sounds like the best option in a no-win situation. My friend recently picked up a low milage 6.0L longblock, I think the lq4, for $400. A few upgrades and you're golden.


IMO the best part of the car is broken, and the part you don't want is what's left. The friend above swapped his ls1 into an old mustang and he always says that's the best thing he's ever done. Besides build the motor & slap a 78mm turbo on it.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 11, 2010, 05:03:51 PM
What about a 351...these motors are way cheaper than the LSx. (IE there are a few on craigslist that need rebuilt for like $100)  I am doing this shit on a $0 budget, rHMT style.  Can you make some power on a carb'd 351?  Do they have block splitting issues like the 302's?  Is a carb the way to go?  I know shit about carbs. WTF is the difference between a windsor and a cleveland?  I started researching domestic parts, the shit is so much cheaper than import stuff.  What the hell.  Twin ebay "57 trim's" should turn one out right?
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Robb on July 11, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
What about a 351...these motors are way cheaper than the LSx. (IE there are a few on craigslist that need rebuilt for like $100)  I am doing this shit on a $0 budget, rHMT style.  Can you make some power on a carb'd 351?  Do they have block splitting issues like the 302's?  Is a carb the way to go?  I know shit about carbs. WTF is the difference between a windsor and a cleveland?  I started researching domestic parts, the shit is so much cheaper than import stuff.  What the hell.  Twin ebay "57 trim's" should turn one out right?

351W and C dont split the block in two at 500whp like the 80's truck block 5.0's do.  If you can tune a carb, it would be SLIGHTLY cheaper since you can get used parts for dirt right now. Since you dont know shit about carbs, you should learn. Windsor and cleveland have some major structural differences, but the heads can be modular with some slight machining. A windsor block (cheap bottom end stroker kit) and 4v cleveland heads (highest flowing head ever made) so called "clevor" is considered to be the best unit to build for trailerpark money.  I'd find the biggest semi-truck turbo I could and do a single setup, but a hi-comp mild cam 351w will net you 550whp with a novice tune, and you may not really need anymore than that in a 240 since you will be deep in the 10's if you can put it to the ground.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 11, 2010, 05:35:36 PM
if ou can find a 351c with 4Bbl heads for a decent price ... Yes. Prefferable over the w block
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 11, 2010, 06:36:16 PM
4V Cleveland heads are nasty!
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 11, 2010, 07:31:50 PM
Lotta good info, thanks guys.  When you say cleveland heads, do you mean cleveland style heads or I need to find some OE heads?  Also anyone have any good links to some info on blow through setups?  I can't just go to autozone and get a 1400cfm carb right?
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: davidawg on July 11, 2010, 07:37:56 PM
i believe i got this link from somebody here...
http://www.hangar18fabrication.com/blowthru.html (http://www.hangar18fabrication.com/blowthru.html)
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 11, 2010, 08:07:46 PM
Lotta good info, thanks guys.  When you say cleveland heads, do you mean cleveland style heads or I need to find some OE heads?  Also anyone have any good links to some info on blow through setups?  I can't just go to autozone and get a 1400cfm carb right?

OE heads off of a 351 cleveland 4V.

Boss 302 heads are decent as well.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 11, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
Lotta good info, thanks guys.  When you say cleveland heads, do you mean cleveland style heads or I need to find some OE heads?  Also anyone have any good links to some info on blow through setups?  I can't just go to autozone and get a 1400cfm carb right?


The 4Bbl Cleveland heads have UNGODLY flow characteristics.. The fucking ports are HUUUUGE...


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Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Towdogg on July 11, 2010, 09:54:24 PM
Too much engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CqqK9CzuXM&feature=related#normal)

Do This!
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 11, 2010, 11:12:09 PM
After you send everything off to the machine shop, 6.0 truck motor with cam is cheaper and makes just as much to the wheels.  Welcome to a modern cylinder head design.

Which 240SX do you have, anyway? 
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 12, 2010, 12:15:05 AM
Early 90's.  I think I can build a pretty decent forged 351 for cheap, plus I'd like to be a little different.  Being different normally = money as I'm sure you are aware, I think maybe I can make that not true. O0
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: crxvtec91 on July 12, 2010, 12:21:41 AM
Cheap Holset and 6.0 truck motor sounds cheap and mean :noel:
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 12, 2010, 12:36:37 AM
S13 chassis, $500 car sold for $2500 because it's hyped.  Decent mechanicals, cheap interior, garbage wiring, suspension bushings slopped out and everything in disrepair to the point it's a money pit.

I fail to see how a SBF swap is different, all the RX7's locally - the fast ones, anyway - get SBF.   You can craft everything out of 20 year old used up pieces, remachine every tolerance, and throw a bunch of money in catalog parts at it to make it fast, or just buy a low mileage 6.0 truck block and make the same power for a lot less.

Or, better yet, just sell the 240 and do something else.  I've little love for S13.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 12, 2010, 12:49:03 AM
I do not disagree at all. 
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 12, 2010, 12:52:09 AM
If you need a Nissan, go S14.  After you replace the entire wiring harness they are pretty nice cars.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 12, 2010, 01:11:18 AM
haha I don't need one or even want one for that matter.  The only reason I have one is because it was free.  I want a v8 RWD car, so it seems fitting that if I can shoehorn some big CI POS v8 I will be able to donuts all around town in delight.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 12, 2010, 01:19:29 AM
I have dollars that say you can sell the S13 shell for a running w/ mechanical issues but straight body SN99 V6 Mustang.  Those take either LSx or SBF swaps.  You can run the SBF off 99-04 V8 ECU w/ bits from 96+ SBF Explorer, or just use the Explorer ECU, if you need to retain scantool emissions. 

Nothing better in one of those chassis than to swap one of those motors, people get seriously irritated.  It's great.  Also, if you catch the bug and decide to throw money at the suspension those cars have the BEST off the shelf stuff, which is why Fox chassis holds all the stock suspension class records in drag racing, or has live axles cars running competitively (if not dominating) against Corvettes on a road course.

OK, enough of my bullshit + soapbox.  Somebody else throw out some ideas.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 12, 2010, 01:33:32 AM
Y not an ironblock 2nd gen SBC ( 350 355 383 400 etc...  Shiy you could build a forged shortblock with some decent components for a G and boost the shit out of it. Instead of fools opening the hood and seeing an LSX in it... All the residents of Rednecktopia would skeet in glee when they saw an old school hi rise single plane, 750DP and 72mm snail on it...


It would be like a mindfuck...


It would be awesomesuace and dirt cheap
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Post by: narfdanarf on July 12, 2010, 01:54:06 AM
spoon feed me yes?  What are decent components...I mean you can get chevy 350's for free.  How much do I need to waste on a set of heads?  God damn it's very hard going into a different world entirely.  I now understand why more shops are specialized in one type of car.
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Post by: highroller54 on July 12, 2010, 01:58:49 AM
Y not an ironblock 2nd gen SBC ( 350 355 383 400 etc...  Shiy you could build a forged shortblock with some decent components for a G and boost the shit out of it. Instead of fools opening the hood and seeing an LSX in it... All the residents of Rednecktopia would skeet in glee when they saw an old school hi rise single plane, 750DP and 72mm snail on it...


It would be like a mindfuck...


It would be awesomesuace and dirt cheap

spiker speaks the truth, big power, cheap parts that are as tough as they come.
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Post by: Passenger on July 12, 2010, 03:00:54 AM
I got to drive a local porsche 944 turbo with an lsx swap that had cams and some head work, it was fun to drive, build one of those.
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Post by: Lowerit on July 12, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
Rebuild the motor, sell it ,pocket the cash for something different.

LOL @ the "Corvettes handle good , not S2K good , but good"  really , tell that to the guys who runthe nationals hahahah
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Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 12, 2010, 01:05:58 PM
spoon feed me yes?  What are decent components...I mean you can get chevy 350's for free.  How much do I need to waste on a set of heads?  God damn it's very hard going into a different world entirely.  I now understand why more shops are specialized in one type of car.

Shit just source a 4 bolt block, forged crank and the cheapest rods you can find with any forged piston (some have the lands down a bit further on the pistons that help... as in N2O setups)....  Slap the bitch together. Cheap, good for very decent powerz....

I wouldnt even bother on much headwork. some 2.02/1.60 camel humperzzz or the like with springs and valves...Screw in studs... SOme cheap Rockers MAYBE a girdle...


Boom.


It would surely suprise the fuck out of someone to see an old Iron block 350 in it.. All youd need is an HEI Dizzy and the ignition would be fine as well.


ORRRRR Just LSX swap it.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Lowerit on July 12, 2010, 01:19:27 PM
put an L33  5.3L  LSX in it from an 05-07 1500 , they are all alum. Swap in a cam and a set of 6.0L heads.

or just put the 5.3L long block in it and the corvette shit back on and sell it.
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Post by: Phate on July 13, 2010, 01:19:33 AM
go to the junkyard and find a VG-powered 300zx with a manual.  grab the transmission.  Then find an infiniti Q45.  Pull engine from Q45.  place all of this into 240sx.

Or sell the 240sx, buy a 300zx with a blown motor, and swap out the blown VG for the VH45 out of the Q45, then have a japanese mullet-mobile complete with T-tops.
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Post by: ironcrx on July 13, 2010, 01:21:09 AM
Be gangster and buy an s12 like i did  :P
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Post by: turbob16hatch on July 13, 2010, 07:07:46 AM
Or sell the 240sx, buy a 300zx with a blown motor, and swap out the blown VG for the VH45 out of the Q45, then have a japanese mullet-mobile complete with T-tops.

^^^This. Mullet mobile.... :noel:
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Post by: Phate on July 13, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
Or sell the 240sx, buy a 300zx with a blown motor, and swap out the blown VG for the VH45 out of the Q45, then have a japanese mullet-mobile complete with T-tops.

^^^This. Mullet mobile.... :noel:

Its on my list of future cars.  Theres a couple options for what I want, and depending on what I can find that will help with the choice.  But yeah, japanese V8 powered RWD coupe with T-tops (that don't leak like the ones on a camaro) = massive win.
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Post by: NoPistons! on July 14, 2010, 03:04:16 PM
Well nevermind on that deal, just got back from checking it out.  Car looked like it was ran through a sandblaster/brillo pad car wash and then someone decided to put out 50 cigarette butts onto the seats.  Combine that with the fact it had no title and I went ahead and passed LOL.


Sidenote I got a 240sx for free, and now I need to figure out what to do with it...it also doesn't run.

LSX POTATO POTATO TWIN TURBO THAT MOTHERFUCKER.

You put a ka in that thing or mention "sr20" and your eyes will bleed, fingernails will explode and penis will no longer boner for hawt chix.

That being said, 1uzfe all aluminum v8's are cheap monies.  Nothing wrong with stuffing a toyota motor in a nissan.  Fucking rb/sr bullshit is trash.  Dunno why people nut all over them when toyota puts their engines to shame.  Can't say the same about vq series.  Those seem pretty stout.
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Post by: narfdanarf on July 14, 2010, 06:24:07 PM
I like the RB motors, but they weigh/cost a fuck ton.  I have a friend with a 1uz for sale he was putting in his 280.  I'm sure I could score it for dirty cheap.....I would prefer something american though just due to aftermarket support.
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Post by: Robb on July 15, 2010, 09:02:44 PM
RB25/26 seem stout for what they are, slightly less of a motor than a 2jz.

1uz are a waste of time unless you have rods, which "big rod" motors are getting hard to come across anymore.  Meh, after youve spent $1000 on aftermarket rods, you could have had a built LQ4 with more torque and hp.

Personally, Im a big fan of cramming the largest displacement engine you can into a car, then slapping a turbo on top of that. Anything less is a wasted effort.
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Post by: dvst8r on July 15, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
...Personally, Im a big fan of cramming the largest displacement engine you can into a car, then slapping a turbo on top of that. Anything less is a wasted effort.

This.

Triple nickel big chief with a pair of 94's... It is my dream, it only ever lasts 6 seconds at a time.
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Post by: bouncinofftherevlimiter on July 15, 2010, 11:34:08 PM
Ls6 s400 800 on stock internals profit.....

;)
Title: Re: Corvette?
Post by: NoPistons! on July 19, 2010, 07:48:17 AM
how much does fuel control cost for a 2jz? I only have one friend with a supra and he spent WAYyyy too much on some AEM bs.  I dont know if there is something cheaper.  LSx are easy and cheap to tune, and they love spray.   LSX> 2jz.  2jz is just some gay ricer shit.

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-snc3%2Fhs299.snc3%2F28613_429329851872_654306872_5302014_8173521_n.jpg&hash=761e73317618b7ac5840d56552c87cc32578b6cc)

heres his supra, been broken for 4 years cuz the stock turbos blew.  I dont even think these cars look that nice anymore  ???

  What a lazy faggot.  Car should have been left stock body.  Look at those wheels?  What the fuck is that shit?


Emanage blue would have sqeezed plenty of power compared to that aem for a fraction of the cost.  Money saved could have been spent on a ching chong mani, t70, wastegate and downpipe.  Fuck.  If those are volks on his car, please kill him.  Got fucking volks but cant fix stock twins......  Panty waste.


Now that the pissing contest is over, just v8 swap the thing and have a ball killing yourself with 700hp.


Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 19, 2010, 01:21:13 PM
Lol yup, those are volks.  People that own supra's do not have the RHMT mentailty (aka the CORRECT, BEST SMARTERESTED Mentality) That damn supra has been broken for like 3 years because of his 00 SS, which is a h/c 150shot 9 inch car, a LSx block is going in and the shortblock cost 12k at discount cuz he works at the only REAL performance part store around here (why im friends with him, hooks me up at the store for parts, i.e. $2 a gallon for NawwWZZZzz and overfilling a 10lb bottle to 11-12)


And i wouldn't know those were volks if i didnt remember him bitching about one getting bent during shipping and they had to make another because they are custom offset or width or someshit. 

On a side note, who gives a fuck about name brand rims, aslong as they look decent and can fit fatty tires, and have nomanufacture defects, i'll run fucking knock off's no names all day.  Name brand rims vs knock off rims are like nikes vs payless shoes, they'll both last the same amount of time, and they both were built in china by a oriental child in a sweathsop working for peanuts.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 19, 2010, 02:07:55 PM
  Name brand rims vs knock off rims are like nikes vs payless shoes, they'll both last the same amount of time, and they both were built in china by a oriental child in a sweathsop working for peanuts.

Not when the name brand is forged and the knockoff isn't, anyway.

I love it when non-forged knockoffs are light and don't bend, though.
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Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 19, 2010, 03:02:32 PM
MItches 240 is sexier than that Poopra.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 19, 2010, 03:49:57 PM
Mitch's 240 is sexier than any other Nissan product I've ever seen.  Including my bossman's R34.
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Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 19, 2010, 04:34:06 PM
I concur with it being prob. The most sexy Nissan Ive seen, and to know how hard and bad he beats the shit out of it absolutely carelessly makes me tingle in my poop region.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 19, 2010, 06:29:58 PM
When do you not tingle in your poop region?  Aside from everytime Jeremy posts, I mean.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: BoostedSchemes on July 19, 2010, 08:20:02 PM
When do you not tingle in your poop region?  Aside from everytime Jeremy posts, I mean.

when the anal-eze kicks in
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: crxvtec91 on July 19, 2010, 08:51:13 PM
72 Chevelle. Single turbo ls1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUS8wHTzOk4&feature=channel#normal)

What more do you want? 6.0 truck motor+ cheap boost= smoke show!
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: flat_black on July 20, 2010, 12:11:32 AM
RB swaps really arent that much, you can do them pretty cheap if you do your own wiring mounts driveshaft etc... even cheaper if you use RB20 tranny.. but there still pretty slow in stock form...
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: crxvtec91 on July 20, 2010, 12:17:25 AM
RB swaps really arent that much, you can do them pretty cheap if you do your own wiring mounts driveshaft etc... even cheaper if you use RB20 tranny.. but there still pretty slow in stock form...

300zx trans with rb26 4wd bell housing.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 20, 2010, 12:19:48 AM
I like the way RBs run.  It's hard to find an inline 6 that sucks, really.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: random-strike on July 20, 2010, 12:29:44 AM
I like the way RBs run.  It's hard to find an inline 6 that sucks, really.

lol
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: BoostedSchemes on July 20, 2010, 01:13:05 AM
that shitty slant 6 that one dumbass american car company made
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: narfdanarf on July 20, 2010, 01:15:58 AM
I don't think I'm getting a RB swap on a $500 budget.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 20, 2010, 02:53:02 AM
When i used to frequent the zx32 300zx forumsa few guys swapped the vg30dett engine in, one guy swapped it into his s13 with full boltons (turbo back, intake, 14psi from stock 7spi) and he was running low 11's.

That would be a FUN as FUCK swap, although doing the swap itself would be a bitch, and so would  working on the engine itself.  But i still say go for it.
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Post by: BoostedSchemes on July 20, 2010, 03:19:10 AM
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Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: Ntrain2k on July 20, 2010, 07:27:49 AM
that shitty slant 6 that one dumbass american car company made

The one that runs forever and that you must not have any experience with?
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: flat_black on July 20, 2010, 09:24:52 AM
I actually have a good 300zx tranny that needs a bell housing...
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Post by: ratcityrex on July 20, 2010, 10:57:27 AM
4.2 straight 6 out of a Chevy trailblazer would be kinda kinky! I would like to see what they would do with some boost. Almost 300 HP in stock form with stock 9.1:1 compression. And its dohc!
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: jabberwock on July 20, 2010, 12:06:56 PM
Get a BMW i6... rock hard.
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: 2slow on July 20, 2010, 03:46:53 PM
Get a spoon engine with a t66 turbo and a motec system exhaust. You will dominate racewars. Especially because jonny tran cant find his sr20s
Title: Re: Corvette?....new subject my 240sx.
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on July 20, 2010, 04:03:09 PM
Those get a premium before racewars