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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 03:59:59 PM

Title: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 03:59:59 PM
made her out of some scrap 3" i had

pie cuts

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tight as fuck under the oil pan trying to clear the h brace too but wie will see how it works out
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gonna add a flange where the pie cuts start so its easy to remove and so that i dont have to remove the AC compressor ro get the DP off, right now i have to since it fits sooooo tight

hope to have this shit in end of the week, talking to mike at LSD right now to get a fresh clutch disk
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: malichite on August 24, 2010, 04:06:05 PM
I usually try to do at least two passes with duct tape.  Root and filler.  I find it holds much better usually.  Are you going to back tape those joints also?
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 04:10:38 PM
I usually try to do at least two passes with duct tape.  Root and filler.  I find it holds much better usually.  Are you going to back tape those joints also?

i tripple passed my intercooler pipe once and help 12ish psi just fine for a week but im going all out for this

fluxcore  :noel:
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 08:53:06 PM
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dented above to allow for bolt clearance and washer and wrench gotta think of these things haha, the flange is SS and the fluxcore just ate it up! lol

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Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: weirtech on August 24, 2010, 08:53:35 PM
that is tight.  i'd think it'll still fry the ac compressor.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
that is tight.  i'd think it'll still fry the ac compressor.

yeah idk i plan or changing to a better manifold thats a bit easiet to work a 3" I plan on wrap and ill oval out the pipe some by throwing it in a vice and giving it a tad more room

the ac system need a lot of work to get working anyway, i broke the top part where it hooks up and i cant weld aluminum :( i was thinking of JBing it but dont think it will hold :( would really loooooove to get a smaller condenser and custom lines made up but nobody around can do it
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 24, 2010, 09:00:13 PM
that is tight.  i'd think it'll still fry the ac compressor.

thinking the same thing i would dent it all along the compressor for just enough room to wrap it
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 24, 2010, 09:02:26 PM
that is tight.  i'd think it'll still fry the ac compressor.

thinking the same thing i would dent it all along the compressor for just enough room to wrap it

in the works fellas thanks for the heads up  :yes:

like i said ill throw it in the vice
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: runsfromdacops on August 25, 2010, 12:47:36 AM
that is tight.  i'd think it'll still fry the ac compressor.

thinking the same thing i would dent it all along the compressor for just enough room to wrap it
yep it looks super snug, maybe its just the pic?
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: ratcityrex on August 25, 2010, 01:21:24 AM
I would wrap it and try and get a heat shield in therw too.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 07:49:01 AM
I wish it s just the pic haha

Ratcity any ideas on a shield
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
just picked this up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270610712522 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270610712522)

hit best offer, do 60 and they took it :D

if you dont think it works :D

Turbo Blankets REALLY WORK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PnCgjbG64s&feature=player_embedded#normal)
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: 92CXyD on August 25, 2010, 10:30:21 AM
Awesome

You said H-brace, are you talking about the the brace that you buy off of ebay or make like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Red-H-Brace-Lower-Arm-Honda-Civic-92-93-94-95-96-97-99-/310243168941?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Red-H-Brace-Lower-Arm-Honda-Civic-92-93-94-95-96-97-99-/310243168941?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories)

I had to bend mine up in the middle just to clear the 2.5'' exhaust I have on my car.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: HiProfile on August 25, 2010, 11:09:21 AM
I usually try to do at least two passes with duct tape.

fuck. I had to go fix a hydraulic line at a customer's house. They were just as pissed that it blew as they were their DUCT TAPE and hose clamp fix would not contain the leak. :-X


If you want AC, give it some space. You aren't going to lose much power, as the quick 90* transition will do most of the killing. You'll want some room to wrap it with 1-2 layers of insulation. I have ceramic 1/16" under the 3/32" fiberglass on my DP, and it's possible to do a few highway pulls and touch it. I also have a wrapped downpipe almost touching my pan, and it ends up heating the oil too much on long drives. Not enough of an air gap.

As far as custom pipes, ask your local body shops. They should know of someone that can make them.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: turbob16hatch on August 25, 2010, 11:23:45 AM
If it was me i would have done a 2.5" to 3" transition after the compressor. I too think the a/c will be very unhappy.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 12:07:32 PM
really think the compressor will die that quick? anyone have a recomended gap DP to Comp?

also yup that H brace lol
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: 92CXyD on August 25, 2010, 12:17:18 PM
really think the compressor will die that quick? anyone have a recomended gap DP to Comp?

also yup that H brace lol

Judging by the exhaust to heat shield under the car I'd say 1/8" to 1/4".

On my header I have it wrapped and a starter blanket up against my supercharger.

After a brisk set of runs my s/c feels a little above ambient in the area by the header.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 12:23:12 PM
your all scaring my im gonna go outside and squish the pipe some more and try and get a bigger gap

DP will be wrapped and ill throw some reflective heat stuff on the compressor
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: Ghetto_D on August 25, 2010, 01:34:56 PM
dude youll be fine.  as long as the pipe doesnt touch the compressor and you dont have the car idling all the time, It wont fry.

My bros hatch had the DP really close to the compressor, It worked fine for 2 years, untill he went B-series.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 01:44:35 PM
Thing is it pretty ouch does touch since I had to grind the bolts on the compressor down to even fit the dp haha
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 25, 2010, 02:04:20 PM
just dent the pipe and call it a day.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 02:21:02 PM
just dent the pipe and call it a day.

vice+2x4
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got about 1/4 of an inch now, gonna smooth the side of the compressor with a cutoff wheel and put reflective tape on it
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flanges should be here tomorrow so i can weld them on and make the part going under the oilpan removable so if i need to swap a tranny or anything like that its just 3 bolts and no headache of getting the hard to reach bolts
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Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: 92CXyD on August 25, 2010, 02:42:14 PM
That should work.  :yes:
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 02:57:34 PM
That should work.  :yes:

yeah i figure with some wrap it will be just fine im not sweating it
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 06:15:55 PM
re-did the WG dump tube

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clears the ac lines way better
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Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: malichite on August 25, 2010, 06:47:59 PM
Looks pretty baller!
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 25, 2010, 06:48:24 PM
re-did the WG dump tube

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clears the ac lines way better
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looks good are you gonna wrap the ac lines and the dump tube?
I am going to run ac but i am using a internal gated k03 so its got a super small footprint
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 25, 2010, 11:43:17 PM
yup will all be wrapped, also picked up some thermo tape from home depot lol

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blow torch tested and approved

as far as the k03 that thing is the size of a fucking testicle it will fit anywhere you put it the d even with AC will fit a k03 without ANY issues
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: HiProfile on August 26, 2010, 09:25:29 AM
really think the compressor will die that quick? anyone have a recomended gap DP to Comp?

also yup that H brace lol

You'll probably have to bypass the thermal thing on the compressor, since it will heat the actual case like a mofo. Once that thermal switch senses overheating of the compressor, it disables the clutch till it cools down.
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 26, 2010, 08:09:05 PM
i think with the wrap and the reflective tape it will be ok, and if the pressure switch starts tripping ill just get some non-home depot reflective tape hahah

moar pics!!!! just about done just dump tube to the bottom of the car and done!
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3bolt flange FTW

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oilpan clearance

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like this shot
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come on 400 wheel!!!
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 26, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
i love those wheels
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 26, 2010, 08:29:54 PM
i love those wheels

falkens got them for 100 bucks with toyo ra01s haha
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 26, 2010, 08:36:58 PM
that dp turned out sweet
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 26, 2010, 08:41:18 PM
that dp turned out sweet

thanks man yeah i like it, may go vband for the next motor but i like it a lot, much better then i ever thought it would turn out

few buddies showed up and "helped" aka watched they all want me to fab some 3" dp's for their GTI's


fuuuuuck that lol vw fitment=gaaaay
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: DasPoop on August 26, 2010, 10:45:40 PM
tell me about it ever try to fab up a 3" on a turbo vr6 total shit
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: Towdogg on August 27, 2010, 10:48:31 AM
Damn negro!  Nice work!   

Those wheels!  I want.....
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 27, 2010, 11:00:54 AM
Damn negro!  Nice work!   

Those wheels!  I want.....
Thaks bro yeah it turned out nice I think, the wheels are pimp falken hanabi they are discontinued were only like 75-80 each new
Title: Re: 3" ac friendly cast manifold DP
Post by: speedjunky01 on August 27, 2010, 02:35:11 PM
finished product

just gonna add a megaphone at the end of the dump tube for extra volume

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not gonna add that since i dont know how long i need to make it, im gonna trim the splash shield to allow an exit out of the bay

this shit is all sooooooooo tight like trying to cram 10 jews into a pizza oven  Jew