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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: theidealone on September 01, 2010, 07:14:01 PM

Title: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: theidealone on September 01, 2010, 07:14:01 PM

Ok, So I tried posting this on HRTuning, but I dont think JR really knows what Im talking about.

So anyways, for those of you that havent seen the TunerView RD-1, heres a link:
http://www.hrtuning.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=91 (http://www.hrtuning.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=91)

I was thinking that I want to replace the cluster with this, as Ive seen one or two people (that have the prototypes) do so, like it was a Race Pak or Motec set up. Pretty damn cool. But those people have electrical VSS, and I have a cable.

So what seems like a good route? I was thinking, I could swap to an electric VSS, and instead of wiring it to the cluster, I would just have to wire it to the ECU, since TunerView gets its info from the ECU. Right?

Or, I was thinking, I could keep the odometer and everything, by just leaving the cluster hooked up like factory, and tucking it behind the dash, out of sight... Then I wouldnt have to wire anything, swap VSS, etc.

Im not sure how the cable VSS works, but Im assuming its like a mechanical guage, and then the ECU gets its info from the gauge cluster itself...

I also thought about fuel, and if I can find a way for the stock sending unit to output 0-5v, I could use an input on the ECU. Or just run a separate gauge for that alone, like an Auto Meter. But the whole point behind the TunerView (for me) is to get rid of my gauges all together.

Any other issues or ideas? Throw em out there.

Thanks

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: crttaz on September 01, 2010, 10:03:53 PM

You'll need a 96-00 OBD-2 VSS to clear the rear tranny bracket. The hardest part is getting the old drive out of the tranny. Most of the time you have to split the tranny and drive out from the inside.

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: ryan89crx on September 01, 2010, 10:09:50 PM

That's pretty slick, too bad it's so Atari looking. I'd be interested to see this replace all the cluster gauges and then some.

I wonder what the response time is like, how well would it react to bouncing off the rev limiter in 1st and 2nd....

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: theidealone on September 02, 2010, 12:51:07 AM

Well, Im going for the D2B, and I already have the B16 (cable) VSS out of the tranny. Its split, needing a rebuild for winter anyways. What VSS should I use for that set up? EF2B?

And yea, I havent heard of any complaints from users that have the Tuner View I or II. So I dont think there should be much of an issue in response with the RD-1. I know a few people will be replacing their clusters with it.

Here is one guys layout of gauges:

Quote from: ahobbs;43230921

here are more layouts ive designed.

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj107%2Fafd1962%2F3902086c.jpg&hash=374d9c1990bbd1acf62b9c9700ef9ffc3d03ce8c)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj107%2Fafd1962%2F811345b1.jpg&hash=a5b4741059cf692c1af6d79c7c32c59b0cca98b9)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj107%2Fafd1962%2F10b5dd82.jpg&hash=fc3dd6aeb0ee205b62e76874b3d9a7810a691bde)

Quote from: ahobbs;43423715

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj107%2Fafd1962%2Frd-1side.png&hash=e6ba48125505a851951666b11bca469850b9edb0)

dash is dusty sorry.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj107%2Fafd1962%2F3bdad218.jpg&hash=a1aab03f0b9695a46d093320e9945a6c416cdbc4)

Pretty slick so far. I really want it. LOL.

So do you guys think the VSS is my only draw back from ditching my original gauge cluster???

And should i swap the VSS or just keep the stock cluster hooked up, and place it somewhere in the dash, just pushed away (I have no heater core, vents, etc).

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on September 02, 2010, 11:31:10 AM

it is pretty atari era there..


i like how the first tunerview is and how people mount them in the cluster where all of the warning lights are.  that looks tits. 

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrtuning.com%2Fphotos%2Ftunerview%2Finstalls%2Fefclusterred.jpg&hash=8e65ec18949ff803a0ecada5d7d62007350cd1a6)

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: theidealone on September 02, 2010, 12:18:23 PM

Yea, but for 250 bucks, it can be as Atari as it wants to be, as long as it functions well, I could give a fuck less really. Looks better than the first 2 Tuner Views.

I do like that one mounted in the ED cluster you posted, but the RD-1 has some pretty sick features. For about the same price as a TunerView II, I could have a bigger display, better fonts, and way more inputs.

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: Towdogg on September 02, 2010, 02:05:54 PM

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on September 02, 2010, 11:31:10 AM

it is pretty atari era there..


i like how the first tunerview is and how people mount them in the cluster where all of the warning lights are.  that looks tits. 

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrtuning.com%2Fphotos%2Ftunerview%2Finstalls%2Fefclusterred.jpg&hash=8e65ec18949ff803a0ecada5d7d62007350cd1a6)

Wow.. thats super clean...  looks OEM...  Do want

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: Jordy53 on September 07, 2010, 11:26:13 AM

I just bought the RD1. Well pre ordered. I will let you guys know how it works out.

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: ratcityrex on September 07, 2010, 06:24:28 PM

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on September 02, 2010, 11:31:10 AM

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hrtuning.com%2Fphotos%2Ftunerview%2Finstalls%2Fefclusterred.jpg&hash=8e65ec18949ff803a0ecada5d7d62007350cd1a6)

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Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: HiProfile on September 08, 2010, 10:08:47 AM

Quote from: theidealone on September 02, 2010, 12:51:07 AM

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That would be the perfect spot for oil temp & pressure gauges, and probably more.

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: Urban Indian on September 08, 2010, 08:24:47 PM

Quote from: Jordy53 on September 07, 2010, 11:26:13 AM

I just bought the RD1. Well pre ordered. I will let you guys know how it works out.

I aswell am purchasing this little beauty. I needed to replace my cluster anyway and its like an extra 100 bucks for this thing. Get rid of some of my gauges at least

Title: Re: Replace OEM Cluster with TunerView RD-1. Cable VSS ?s
Post by: 2slow on September 11, 2010, 10:07:11 AM

Look up how to do a cable vss to an integra cluster they show how to wire up the electronic vss like bone was mentioning. There is a few write ups on how to do it. I dont have any links though.