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General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: fuse on September 10, 2010, 12:23:04 AM

Title: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: fuse on September 10, 2010, 12:23:04 AM
I have a z6 I picked up a d17valve cover/coil packs/pig tails for free. I read about a sister board you could use some time ago on pgm-fi but I cant find it now. Anyone used it? Any one have the link?

I put the valve cover on looks like its all going to line up?????
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: Adam Hopkins on September 11, 2010, 11:06:34 AM
Why? There is no gain from doing this. Plus you do not exactly have the dwell setting to correctly fire those with the software your using.

Unless you are looking for street cred when you pop your hood, then I understand. COP gets the street cred, :?:.
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: fuse on September 11, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Ya I know my stock ignition system is fine. Ya it would be more of a hay look at my shit kind of thing. I also picked it all up for free. I have spent the last few nights digging threw pgmfi and cant find the little sister board or anything online for that matter besides converting to a stand alone.

I remember seeing something that some one had built but I cant find it now.
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: kgx on September 11, 2010, 07:44:40 PM
i posted a circuit over on ectune a while back. i've never tested it. probably has a bug or two to work out. for whatever reason, i can't post on the ectune forums anymore, so i said fuck it.
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 13, 2010, 02:07:55 AM
i posted a circuit over on ectune a while back. i've never tested it. probably has a bug or two to work out. for whatever reason, i can't post on the ectune forums anymore, so i said fuck it.

Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: kgx on September 26, 2010, 03:31:57 PM
somehow, the 4AG guys have made this work:
http://www.86garage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1122&start=60 (http://www.86garage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1122&start=60)

it's batch fire COP! i'm not entirely sure how they're not lighting off at the bottom of the intake stroke, but they claim it runs great. probably runs the coils pretty hot though. not something i'd reccommend trying.

on a side note, the circuit i made does work.
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: Teg2boo on September 26, 2010, 03:43:29 PM
somehow, the 4AG guys have made this work:
http://www.86garage.com/forums/viewt...=1122&start=60 (http://www.86garage.com/forums/viewt...=1122&start=60)

it's batch fire COP! i'm not entirely sure how they're not lighting off at the bottom of the intake stroke, but they claim it runs great. probably runs the coils pretty hot though. not something i'd reccommend trying.

on a side note, the circuit i made does work.

There's something missing in the link, it's no worky
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: Foowee on September 26, 2010, 03:44:41 PM
I bet the injector is opening after the plug has done it's thing a few degrees before bdc.

I thought the whole point of cop was to increase the available charge time between spark events and allow a coil design that could charge to a greater capacity with the bigger window.  

I'm sure those guys love the steering response they get from stretching their tires too.
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: Joseph Davis on September 26, 2010, 10:48:20 PM
Ding ding ding
Title: Re: Coil packs and crome?
Post by: kgx on September 26, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
fixed the link.

not at high load. the injector is open well before the intake valve even opens for the intake stroke at higher loads. i'm guessing it has more to do with the fact that the mixture is still pretty uneven. i'd be willing to bet there would be a lot of preignition in a turbo engine under the same conditions.

charge time was kind of the idea, but most of these coil units have charge times in the sub-3mS range, so crome's dwell time is actually a bit longer than necessary. shortening the dwell is pretty easy though.