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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 97Econobox on December 02, 2011, 12:32:57 PM

Title: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 02, 2011, 12:32:57 PM
So i sold my ungodly badass Honda Pilot not too long ago and for whatever reason was looking for another vw.  i started to think about it and honestly i think id miss 4wd as i often go to the outer banks and ride the beaches.  So im looking in the 7k range for a used 4runner or pathfinder between 95-2000, not too picky so long as the mileage isnt like too high and the truck is nice.

Someone tell me something about them. i figure both are fairly rock solid but what are somethings i should look for.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 02, 2011, 12:38:20 PM
In my opinion they are very similar vehicles as far as mpg, power, offload ability, etc. I would go with a pathfinder personally. I hate working on toyotas but can tolerate nisAnd because I'm an intellectual being, . Toyota just does weird shit that always makes me scratch my head. The only real issue I have come across on pathfinders are the distributors going bad.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 02, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
In my opinion they are very similar vehicles as far as mpg, power, offload ability, etc. I would go with a pathfinder personally. I hate working on toyotas but can tolerate nisAnd because I'm an intellectual being, . Toyota just does weird shit that always makes me scratch my head. The only real issue I have come across on pathfinders are the distributors going bad.

Your out your mind!

4runner > pathfinder

I had both, the 4runner is better in every way. Also pathfinders have shit trans that loved to die if you just look at it wrong.

350,000 miles on my old 4runner before selling it, last I heard was it had over 420,000 miles and still running strong.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 02, 2011, 01:20:51 PM
I worked at a Nissan dealer for about a year, only thing I have ever fixed on them was distributors.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: crxvtec91 on December 02, 2011, 01:26:48 PM
I worked at a Nissan dealer for about a year, only thing I have ever fixed on them was distributors.

I work at a engine importer a few years back, that was one of the most bought trans.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 02, 2011, 04:02:41 PM
I'm not saying you are wrong, just putting in my experience. I have worked on plenty of both and I would pick the pathfinder over the 4 runner
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 92CXyD on December 02, 2011, 04:36:53 PM
Toyotas last long period.  :noel:

Every 'toy I've ever owned I end up put the well past 200k miles

Never owned a Datsun

What about the Isuze Tropper 2 / Honda Passport?  ;DDD
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 02, 2011, 04:50:48 PM
Having already owned the Pinnacle of 4x4 excellence (Honda Pilot Naturally) i don't want to hog all the awesomeness and would rather try something that is obviously inferior to the rock crushing, obstacle hurdling, god given perfect design that is Variable Torque Management.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: jeremy_nash on December 02, 2011, 06:05:37 PM
I have had both, but prefer the pathfinder.  granted, both of mine were older than what you'r looking for. fuel economy, off road capability, were on level playing fields, but the pathfinder just seemed more solid.  was quieter driving down the road, and had a more comfortable interior.   (https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdiscussamerica.org%2Fremer-blog%2Fimages%2F2_cents.gif&hash=67f009fc654708675b5196006a31843b0a0efac2)
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Hotrodlincoln on December 02, 2011, 09:00:50 PM
Have had both. im daily driving a 94 pathfinder, i like them both pretty well.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 02, 2011, 09:11:00 PM
I worked at a Nissan dealer for about a year, only thing I have ever fixed on them was distributors.

That's because with how expensive it was to put an automatic transmission in them every ten miles they couldn't afford dealership prices.  Fuck you?


Having already owned the Pinnacle of 4x4 excellence (Honda Pilot Naturally) i don't want to hog all the awesomeness and would rather try something that is obviously inferior to the rock crushing, obstacle hurdling, god given perfect design that is Variable Torque Management.

Get a Cherokee for $3000.  What you save in the purchase you pay back in the first two years of gas, though.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: HiProfile on December 02, 2011, 10:24:55 PM
So i sold my ungodly badass Honda Pilot not too long ago and for whatever reason was looking for another vw.  i started to think about it and honestly i think id miss 4wd as i often go to the outer banks and ride the beaches.  So im looking in the 7k range for a used 4runner or pathfinder between 95-2000, not too picky so long as the mileage isnt like too high and the truck is nice.

Someone tell me something about them. i figure both are fairly rock solid but what are somethings i should look for.

Get a pathfinder. Sounds like something Jesus would drive.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on December 03, 2011, 01:50:38 AM
^ mexicans drive toyotas. side not there cherokee is a good call had a 97 bought for $2200 with 160,xxx on it. solid vehicle uncle still hase it with over 250,xxx not one major problem
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: myae86turbo on December 03, 2011, 03:31:06 AM
Toyota has a longer/more prestigious  off road history than Nissan. And nisAnd because I'm an intellectual being,  are the ford of Japan.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Lowerit on December 03, 2011, 10:02:13 AM
Too bad you're so far away my brother is selling a 96 with leather and a 5spd he's owned since nearly new for $1000>
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: brine04 on December 03, 2011, 01:04:27 PM
be a baller and get the infiniti QX4, or a Land Cruiser.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: snm95ls on December 03, 2011, 01:09:01 PM
Trashfinder's suck dirty anus.

Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: dvst8r on December 03, 2011, 07:17:31 PM
be a baller and get the infiniti QX4, or a Land Cruiser.

This.

Add LX450/470
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: patsmx5 on December 04, 2011, 08:19:46 AM
7K will probably get you an 01' Isuzu Trooper with ~50-60K miles. They are more of a truck than a 4 runner though, worse mileage, ride rougher, etc. Avoid the 99-00's as they burn oil, but otherwise are fine.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: ironcrx on December 04, 2011, 02:38:08 PM
Grow some balls and get yourself a Trooper.  :noel:
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Phate on December 04, 2011, 05:39:40 PM
Get a vehicross:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftrialx.com%2Fcuretalk%2Fwp-content%2Fblogs.dir%2F7%2Ffiles%2F2011%2F06%2Fcars%2F1999_Isuzu_Vehicross-3.jpg&hash=7046a633fdf1582caa2fc34a5eec7fbb4a750710)
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 05, 2011, 08:29:50 AM
that might be the most ugly thing ive seen all month.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 05, 2011, 10:13:56 AM
I have seen one of those running around town a couple times lately. I was wondering what it was
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 05, 2011, 10:14:47 AM
that might be the most ugly thing ive seen all month.


Nothing a few VW badges and some heated leather seats with built in cupholders won't fix, right?
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 05, 2011, 10:24:57 AM
My VW did not have any cup holders.  i had to make some.

YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID SIR.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 05, 2011, 10:38:20 AM
Argument?  I was being agreeable, sir.  Turn the other cheek and all that.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Phate on December 05, 2011, 12:01:51 PM
I have seen one of those running around town a couple times lately. I was wondering what it was

They are fairly rare.  Mechanically they are just a trooper that they shrunk down a little bit, put a bigger engine in, and made handle semi-decently (probably stiffer sway bars).  I kind of want one, they are badass off road and look like they are from the future.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 05, 2011, 02:54:51 PM
LOVE my 98 PAthy SE.... Very good handling, decent milage and runs GREAT.

Nissan tranny issues were more related to earlier (95 and older). Even when they did shit, 90 percent of the timer it was a ssolenoid, nothing more.


I bought my Pathfinder gbecasue it was so clean, I grew to really like it, quickly.

You wont be dissapointed.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 05, 2011, 06:42:02 PM
You wont be dissapointed.

Unless you drive a Toyota first.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 05, 2011, 07:07:08 PM
You wont be dissapointed.

Unless you drive a Toyota first.


Incorrect.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 05, 2011, 07:52:14 PM
You wont be dissapointed.

Unless you drive a Toyota first.


Incorrect.

i agree
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: colt45 on December 06, 2011, 02:16:53 AM
stay away from those japanese v6's. 

serious. i would say ka pathfinder, if they existed. 

go for a 22re 4runner for satisfactory longevity and no power.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Phate on December 06, 2011, 03:24:19 AM
stay away from those japanese v6's. 

serious. i would say ka pathfinder, if they existed. 

go for a 22re 4runner for satisfactory longevity and no power.

What's wrong with the VG motors?  My roommate's old frontier was a fucking tank.  It constantly had a CEL for a knock sensor, but it was a beast of a truck.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: PhilStubbs on December 06, 2011, 07:46:20 AM
stay away from those japanese v6's. 

serious. i would say ka pathfinder, if they existed. 

go for a 22re 4runner for satisfactory longevity and no power.

4bt
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 06, 2011, 02:15:50 PM
Only thing that Ive heard bad about the VGs are the rear main seal is a nigger to replace due to the manly drivetrain removal..... and they develop leaks at the pan gasket. The auto tranny issues are more inherent of older models, even then its almost always solenoids going bad (easy fix with only the pan off)...

My motor has 230 K on it, doesnt burn oil, has about perfect compression runs great and looks to be clean inside at inspection under valve cover (took it off to have a look see). SOmeone took reallll goood ccare of this thing. Have the original sticker, and all service records. Interior is seriously a 8.9 out of 10. Quiet, solid and a beast in the snow.


Other than a SLIGHT rear end whine, there is NOTHING wrong with it.  Mine is fucking awesome, rides very very nicely and feels MUCH more solid than my cousins NEWER 4runner.

Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: snm95ls on December 06, 2011, 09:41:18 PM
stay away from those japanese v6's. 

serious. i would say ka pathfinder, if they existed. 

go for a 22re 4runner for satisfactory longevity and no power.

What's wrong with the VG motors?  My roommate's old frontier was a fucking tank.  It constantly had a CEL for a knock sensor, but it was a beast of a truck.

Nissan.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Phate on December 07, 2011, 03:25:03 AM
stay away from those japanese v6's. 

serious. i would say ka pathfinder, if they existed. 

go for a 22re 4runner for satisfactory longevity and no power.

What's wrong with the VG motors?  My roommate's old frontier was a fucking tank.  It constantly had a CEL for a knock sensor, but it was a beast of a truck.

Nissan.

From what I've seen, nissan V6's are pretty awesome.  Some of their 4 bangers are pieces of shit (QR25DE), but the VG's and especially the VQ's are pretty solid.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 07, 2011, 09:45:45 AM
VQs have huge oil consumption problems, and the timing chain tensioners randomly break.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 07, 2011, 10:50:56 AM
VQs have huge oil consumption problems, and the timing chain tensioners randomly break.

This is true.  friends Spec V has already done his at about 70k and the car has consumed a quart of oil about every month on average since like 50k.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: Phate on December 07, 2011, 11:51:01 AM
VQs have huge oil consumption problems, and the timing chain tensioners randomly break.

Both of the maximas my friend had don't/didn't burn oil, and despite some parts of those cars being really shitty (transmissions are questionable), the engines seem to run forever.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 97Econobox on December 07, 2011, 12:01:55 PM
I had an old Nissan Maxima that i tried to kill for about 9 months and just couldn't.  Ran 35k on one oil change, Neutral drops about once a week off the rev limiter.  I beat the shit out of that car and it still drove when i gave it up.  Car had more issues than you could count, ran on 5 out of 6 cyl. bad tensioner that would rattle its assoff, Cruise would accelerate by itself, bad shifter bushings meaning sometimes you couldn't pull it out of park, also liked to lock the doors when you were trying to unlock them.

Classic High school shitbox car.  i thought it was hot shit though.
Title: Re: 4runner vs pathfinder
Post by: 7808 on December 07, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
ive driven alot of differnt trucks and SUV's  and it sucks because there probly not the most reliable or best power for how much gas they use but i really like the way newer style isuzu rodeo's drive, they dont have that stupid heavy tippy cramped slow trying to hard to go suv feeling i get from most of them.  i had a trooper too i liked that pile .   i wanted to drive a montero cause they look cool ;DDD when i was shopping for a new winter beater this year but found a 98 rodeo  with a manual trans for $1500