:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: jdmhatchracer94 on December 20, 2011, 03:57:56 AM
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okay buddy picked up a ef hatch for dirty cheap. Now gotta figure out what engine to build. have a ls,z6,22b2 sittin around. just curious as to which people would like to see? everything will be rhmt style no fancy fuckin plates and shit all fluxcore and jb weld fab.
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I vote d2b, I'm planning to do that in my ef soon.
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do a z6 with a evo 16g
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F2B
k20 rods and pistons arp studs and nog boost!
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F2B
k20 rods and pistons arp studs and nog boost!
isn't that used in the f23? was goin h22 rods with dsm strokers like ash.
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Id just do the ls.... Mine was fast on 10psi... :-\
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do a z6 with a evo 16g
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Id just do the ls.... Mine was fast on 10psi... :-\
gettin kinda bored with the ls at 18psi
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Turn that Bitch to 25 then! :P
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I would go D or B. Unless your plans are for a drag car. I dont really see the necessity of the B tranny for a street car with <500whp. Its just a lot of extra work and headache, for a better tranny. If you want the better gears, and are building a 400ish whp (I dont know your goals, didnt really read), go B series, or suffer with the EX/SI gears and a cheap single slam.
Oh, and if you did go D2B, adapter plate isnt necessary. But I kinda doubt youll get it done with JB Weld or Devcon. And sure as fuck wont with a Fluxcore, unless you shell out a pretty penny for Speed Factory adapter components...
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naw I say yours on the d2b. not payin for a kit. I can weld aluminum not pretty but can do it. leanin towards the f2b. I have never even driven a car with a f series. power goals are as much as I can get.
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Shit, you aren't far from me. If you need some aluminum welding, just holla at a nog! AJ can vouch :)
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AJ can vouch :)
:noel: O0 :mexi:
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I will/ when you gettin rid of the first gen? f2b in that would be sick
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hit up the local junkyards for an old school cable integra transmission. :noel:
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Fab up mounts for a hydro B, buy the hydro pedals in classifieds, go f2b. If you go w/o an adapter plate you have that much more room for a turbo. Actually I'm not sure if the EF has enough room before the firewall.
Even if you got a basic F, an adapter, and a cable LS trans it would be fun. The extra torque would make the gearing okay, and some F22's can do good peak HP on stock blocks.
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was thinkin a 88-89 teg tranny but isn't that closer to a d? if I went that route I would have to do a plate. The b series think I can do without but a d I have no choice unless I weld extra material to the bell housing.
also found this looks pretty sketchy http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/st-ann...thout-kit.html (http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/st-ann...thout-kit.html)
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88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.
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By old school I meant 90-91 a1 trans they are 20 years old
If you go d series I think making the 86-89 d16a1 trans work in a 88-91 chassis the way to go. The one d series transmission that doesnt suck
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86-89 D16A1 tranny will work, but take custom mounts. If I gotta fab some shit, it better be a B series tranny.
Fuck 90-91 small spline trannies. 92-93. Same spline as a hydro tranny, and same internals. Much better as far as options. You really just need a case. Then pick up hydro B16, LS, and GSR trannies, and start fuckin with your gear stacks.
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I have three hydro ls tranny's. waiting for my buddy to pick up a new tranny for his da and I get the fucked up b16 one thats in it.
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88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.
As in D15A3, which was a last model year renaming of the Si trim EWx, sure it is. If you think it's 88+ D-series pattern you're smoking something.
Four bolts match up, requires drilling/tapping the starter hole, and a clutch from mars to make it work. Oh, yeah, make the mounts.
Cool transmission for beans, IMO. 86-89 gearset with 4.06 FD from a 2G Prelude and a B-series LSD is a great combo for boost, but it's a bit of work and the net effect is ??. I like how strong the gearset "looks" but there's a lot in material selection and actual design that I don't know anything about, and there hasn't been a decade of kids blowing these things up to know the limits of the box. Best case scenario you do a lot of work and fucking around to end up with something as strong as a B-series box (although theoretically a little stronger due to the built in cuff).
I wouldn't bother unless you were building a classic 80s Honda.
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Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.
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yeah the 86-89 tans was just a idea if it was gonna go in a pre 88 civic/crx.
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Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.
Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?
:-X
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Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.
Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?
No. Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build. Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.
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Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.
Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?
No. Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build. Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.
I was trying to give you a ration of shit, and you blocked it. Asshole.
I hate to admit it, but the though of mixing H and F parts for a relatively cheap larger displacement mill is appealing even though they are boat anchors.
Needs moar K24 frank action.
<leaving>
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fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
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fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
They aren't as expensive as you'd think.
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fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
They aren't as expensive as you'd think.
Especially the non TSX K24s. They are really affordable these days.
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fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
They aren't as expensive as you'd think.
Especially the non TSX K24s. They are free these days.
Yup. They eat over 400whp of boost, stock. Like you're gonna hook that on the street... peeeerfect.
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My buddy had a K20 Type R head that was fucked off. So we compared it to his CRV head he was swapping onto his TSX block. Ports, and almost all of the casting looks identical. And you can get CRV motors for next to shit. Best flowing ports for pennies.
The only thing that gets expensive, is the KPro. Other than that, if you can make custom mounts for a D16A1 tranny, you can make custom mounts for a K swap. And if you can wire OBD1 shit, you can wire in the K series. I havent fucked with a K swap, but I wonder why you see everyone buying a Karcepts shifter or whatever the fuck that is, rather than fabricating the stock shifter to fit their chassis???
I would imagine if you had the tools, you could do a K swap for under 1500.
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I have looked into it. yard's around here want $700+ for the k20a2 long block by its self. $900 for a rsx 5 speed tranny. to me it if always cost and I'm impatient. I dont make shit at work but love what I do. fuck to put the ls together took me almost 4 years and it's nothin special.
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Fuck K-pro. Get the DBW shit, the future holds many promising things.
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DBW? what is this? :noel:
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^^^ ya? Russ what H stuff you got left.
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Id like to know as well. DBW?
And I know JR with HRTuning has been trying to make a K series ECU as well.
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^^^ ya? Russ what H stuff you got left.
2 H23 blocks and heads,
Blox fuel rail,
egay Turbo manifold,
used p14 pistons and rods,
full stock p14 IM,
OBX IM,
obd2 p14 ecu,
bits of small parts
What ya looking for?
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Id like to know as well. DBW?
And I know JR with HRTuning has been trying to make a K series ECU as well.
Last time I talked to him it was going to be a Neptune dealer thing. It doesn't sound like he will put it out for people to tune themselves.
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fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
They aren't as expensive as you'd think.
Especially the non TSX K24s. They are free these days.
Yup. They eat over 400whp of boost, stock. Like you're gonna hook that on the street... peeeerfect.
I did not know this though, and that is motherfucking interesting. Sounds like I really do need to get another 6th gen pile of fuck chassis.
Fuck K-pro. Get the DBW shit, the future holds many promising things.
More info? Traction control etc via OEM ECU and DBW?
DBW? what is this? :noel:
I am guessing drive by wire as K poo does not support DBW applications if I am not mistaken. I think only Flash Poo will.
I have looked into it. yard's around here want $700+ for the k20a2 long block by its self. $900 for a rsx 5 speed tranny. to me it if always cost and I'm impatient. I dont make shit at work but love what I do. fuck to put the ls together took me almost 4 years and it's nothin special.
Fuck a k20a2, fuck an RSX five speed.
Around here, the "non desireable" K24s are between 500 and 750. Snag an EP3 trans for about 500 and you have a cheap engine and trans combo.
I only know because I have seriously considered it several times now. If I did't love ED chassis cars so damn much, I would have done it by now. I refuse to run with no hood, or the madd tyte JDM hood tilt, or a uber monstrous looking hood to clear a K24 on a DD.
Granted, the notl in swap parts are still not cheap.
Meh...
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You are all so dull.
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You are all so dull.
I'd prefer to referred to as blunt, fuck you very much.
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think I cant use dbw anyway as the nhra book said that thottle has to be mechanical
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Fuck K-pro. Get the DBW shit, the future holds many promising things.
Haltech!