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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: AbaZ on April 20, 2009, 02:52:53 PM

Title: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: AbaZ on April 20, 2009, 02:52:53 PM
Working on this Kia sorento, and one of the screws on the induction control valve came off and is embeaded in the cylinder head. Wasnt sure if anyone had any tricks to get shit out. I've tried pulling the plug and reving the shit out of it. I cant see shit with the bore scope but I know its in there. Wasnt sure if I filled the cylinder full of some fluid and maybe that would help loosen it?

Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: Jorsher on April 20, 2009, 03:01:56 PM
Loosen it from what?

Magnet?
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: t_cel_t on April 20, 2009, 03:04:29 PM
if its embedded in the head that means the piston hit it and hit it hard, are you sure the piston is not damaged? just pull the head
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: TheMadScientist on April 20, 2009, 03:18:05 PM
+1 on pulling the head. That's probably the only way you're going to get it out.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: AbaZ on April 20, 2009, 03:20:35 PM
nah, I've gotten them out before, its a pretty common problem on these cars, sometimes its screws, sometimes its bushings. It runs flawless, leak down and compresson are also good, so If I can just get it out I will save a shit ton on labor.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: Robb on April 20, 2009, 03:27:51 PM
Wasnt sure if I filled the cylinder full of some fluid and maybe that would help loosen it?

Id try ATF overnight.  Couldnt hurt anything.  Or maybe some kind of penetrating oil.  As long as you change the oil afterwards, you can throw whatever you want in there. 
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: AbaZ on April 20, 2009, 03:33:00 PM
yea, I was thinking along those lines.. maybe even crank it over when the cylinder is full.

and if it was like a honda and the head comes off in 15 mins I would do it.. There is alot of shit on these motors.

Most people in our shop just pull the engine when this happens.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: Ghetto_D on April 20, 2009, 03:40:50 PM
Couldnt you get a coat hanger bend it at a 45° angle and go in through the spark plug hole and see if you cant scrape it off the head?

or blast that shit with as much compressed air as you can?

just a thought.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: TTC on April 20, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
I'm assuming you can see it with teh scope through the sparkplug hole?  I say get something in there and bang it out, like a long ass bent screwdriver.  If u want dip it in plastic, so its not so sharp.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: BoostForLife on April 20, 2009, 04:09:17 PM
small bendable magnet that fits through the spark plug hole.
Had a compression tester lose one of the metal balls from the fitting before. Magnet worked perfect
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: BangBusMaster on April 20, 2009, 04:28:37 PM
 O0Treat it like a PDI and top it out on the lift.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: 88dx on April 20, 2009, 04:44:24 PM
O0Treat it like a PDI and top it out on the lift.
  :yes:
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: AbaZ on April 20, 2009, 06:14:56 PM
Haha, I got that fucker out, took the plug out, topped out 3rd gear with the spark plug out, let it hang on rev limiter for like 30 seconds. Alot of people were giving me funny looks, it was very loud, plus the hood was off. Very everett white trash.

came back, threw the plug back in, nice and quiet.

:)

I'm gonna flag 12.0 hours for this
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: jagojon3 on April 20, 2009, 06:18:25 PM
Jeff is a flat rate pro
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber
Post by: chris on April 20, 2009, 06:28:30 PM
Haha, I got that fucker out, took the plug out, topped out 3rd gear with the spark plug out, let it hang on rev limiter for like 30 seconds. Alot of people were giving me funny looks, it was very loud, plus the hood was off. Very everett white trash.

came back, threw the plug back in, nice and quiet.

:)

I'm gonna flag 12.0 hours for this



Nice solid work
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: Kenny Rogers on April 20, 2009, 07:30:37 PM
When in doubt rev it out  :somb: :noel:
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: Robb on April 20, 2009, 07:44:47 PM
Italian tune-up is teh win!
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: brine04 on April 20, 2009, 08:24:09 PM
Damn solid work fixing that hunk of shit.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: Conceptz-X on April 20, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
Thats how I handle shit in the combustion chamber, pull the plug rev the fuck out of it and pray it comes out.
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: Urban Indian on April 20, 2009, 08:54:38 PM
fuck I would think that it would fuck up the piston/head something fierce


Good job on the flat rate RHMT styles
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: Conceptz-X on April 20, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
It does, but you'd never know
Title: Re: Any tips, something stuck in a combustion chamber ::FIXED::
Post by: HiProfile on April 20, 2009, 10:34:16 PM
When you're at the bottom (Kia motor), there's only one way to go. :P