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General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: PhilStubbs on February 03, 2013, 09:26:42 AM

Title: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on February 03, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
Came across this and thought $50 was completely ridiculous. I have a pile of LEDs laying around. Anyone know how this works?

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Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: 92CXyD on February 03, 2013, 11:08:43 AM
If it is done of the price, I'm down.

That is based on the wire list in pgmfi.org library, under troubleshooting.

Had to use that wire list for troubleshooting recently. :noel:
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 03, 2013, 12:13:11 PM
Looks fairly priced, IMO.  I make more money doing other things in the handful of hours it will take you to fab one of those.  I think the 0.45" "Moates G2" adapter I made in a pinch took three and a half hours?
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on February 03, 2013, 01:58:28 PM
What gets me is its $6 in parts and probably takes 15 seconds to make if its done by machine, 15min if done by a person. $50? I wouldn't use it enough, maybe that's why I'd rather make one.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: ratcityrex on February 03, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
If your not confident in your solder joints, then don't solder. It will either work or not. If not, then pull back out and make sure you don't have any solder slag connecting any joints to each other, like leg to leg.

Neat idea though for the rookies.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on February 03, 2013, 03:40:28 PM
I rarely have one not work and I have done 40-50 ecu's. it would just be nice as a quick troubleshooter. I get cats that act funny at times that I didn't chip and I could stick that in to find out if it's the chip job or something else
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: HiProfile on February 03, 2013, 03:58:48 PM
Looks fairly priced, IMO.  I make more money doing other things in the handful of hours it will take you to fab one of those.  I think the 0.45" "Moates G2" adapter I made in a pinch took three and a half hours?

You GROUNDED all the pins, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: Joseph Davis on February 03, 2013, 09:53:52 PM
What gets me is its $6 in parts and probably takes 15 seconds to make if its done by machine, 15min if done by a person. $50? I wouldn't use it enough, maybe that's why I'd rather make one.

You're going to learn the hard way.  And, I think you should.



Looks fairly priced, IMO.  I make more money doing other things in the handful of hours it will take you to fab one of those.  I think the 0.45" "Moates G2" adapter I made in a pinch took three and a half hours?

You GROUNDED all the pins, right?  ;)

Thanks for the backup on that, BTW.  It worked like a charm until a nice shiny adapter arrived in the mail from Moates.  I'll keep it for future use, never know when some stone age bit like that will come in handy.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: HiProfile on February 05, 2013, 01:50:00 AM
I was so long since I built that 16timer I forgot what was hi/low. To be honest I think I built the first one with "F" being the first mem address, "0" being the last. lol


btw:

46 75 63 6B    59 6F 75 21
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: NoPistons! on March 20, 2013, 04:15:29 PM
Anything that makes troubleshooting less of a pain in the ass is a worthwhile endeavor.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on March 20, 2013, 04:26:52 PM
And sidesteps Hondata.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 20, 2013, 09:36:59 PM
What gets me is its $6 in parts and probably takes 15 seconds to make if its done by machine, 15min if done by a person. $50? I wouldn't use it enough, maybe that's why I'd rather make one.

It's been a month and a half, post pics of your progress?
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on March 20, 2013, 09:52:20 PM
I have been busy, I need you to spoon feed me electronics information.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 22, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
You have P28.pdf, faggot.  Open it up, look?
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on March 22, 2013, 10:07:43 AM
I have some. No real time to sit down and really study it. I managed to follow the J1 circuit a little and all shows well with my multimeter on that ecu I'm having trouble with. I also ran through a pinout from pgmfi.org that showed both the 20 pin and 28 pin chips had solid connections and no bridged pins. I'm lost on this ecu, but I'm determined since I got it in a short end of the stick trade. Even working perfectly it wasn't the best deal for me, but I will make way more use of an obd1 ecu than I will a cable D tranny.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: 92CXyD on March 22, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
Does anybody have an idea on how to just take an Ostrich 2.0 and use it as a means diagnose the ecu similar to that Hondata piece?

Maybe a simple separate program for it. 
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: PhilStubbs on March 22, 2013, 11:48:35 AM
Damn, I bet that would be fairly easy for someone that understands that stuff.

There are some people using TunerPro to do cell tracing on cars they can't log the conventional way. Sounds promising.
Title: Re: Hondata might sue, but lets build one anyway
Post by: Joseph Davis on March 23, 2013, 12:11:15 AM
Does anybody have an idea on how to just take an Ostrich 2.0 and use it as a means diagnose the ecu similar to that Hondata piece?

Maybe a simple separate program for it.

Huh.

That might be possible, depending on the actual premise of the Ostrich.