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Title: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on June 01, 2009, 02:53:18 AM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/29/national/a122643D74.DTL (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/05/29/national/a122643D74.DTL)
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 89shithatch on June 01, 2009, 02:59:18 AM
thats bullshit. i agree with the nra member, shoot extra to be sure the threat is removed.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 02:59:41 AM
dude

niggers rob him

he shoots one of them in the fucking head

kid drops

then he goes running after the other guy cant get him

comes back into the fucking store with him empty gun

looks at the dude on the floor bleeding obviously shot in the fucking head not a fucking threat obviously not fucking moving

gets a 2nd gun from behind the fucking counter

then unloads it into the dudes fucking gut

fuck that shit i could careless if he gets the electric chair

but he will most likely get off.. or just little time

that faggot shouldnt be allowed to own any guns

and i hope next time he gets robbed he gets gang raped by 3 black men with 12 inch dicks

you dont shoot to kill you shoot to stop the threat when the threat is over you stop shooting

plain and fucking simple.

cliffnotes: i love black kawks
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 03:01:05 AM
let me rephrase... this guy can spend the rest of his life in jail... or be out scott free..

i wouldnt give a fuck... either way im fine with it because he wont be allowed to own guns anymore and he will get his one day O0
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: BoostForLife on June 01, 2009, 03:01:40 AM
If you go into a store to rob a minimum wage person and put their life/family welfare at risk for whatever little penny you will steal, you deserve to be emptied the whole clip at. Color plays no issue here. Kill or be killed, there's no other option when bullets fly in an armed robbery.

To the mother of the dumb negro that said that he shouldn't have killed her son, should have raised him better and this whole fucked up situation wouldn't have happened.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 01, 2009, 03:14:50 AM
the vid

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eed_1243733340 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eed_1243733340)
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Jorsher on June 01, 2009, 03:30:23 AM
Video isn't working for me.

On one hand, if you point a gun at someone I feel like you're accepting the possible consequence of death.  On the other hand, I don't know it's right to keep shooting an unconscious person.

What would I have done?  Probably the same thing.  Adrenaline is a bitch.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: BoostForLife on June 01, 2009, 03:37:00 AM
Just go here for the video, their embedding fucking sucks balls.
remove the star before http://
*http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eed_1243733340
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Corey on June 01, 2009, 03:38:14 AM
thaqt vid dont work.

buk youre a retard. you are supposed to SHOOT TO KILL or dont even bother pulling the gun because its obviously not necessary. kid got what he deserved, now he will never be able to bring harm on anyone again.

first shot hit him in the head but the shots after that in the stomach are the fatal ones? riiiiight.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 89shithatch on June 01, 2009, 03:41:39 AM
KILL OR BE KILLED. bottom like. if you want a life dont put other people in jepordy. quit having remorse its just another nogger born behind a grocery store and raised on tax dollars we dont get back. oh well less watermelon seeds that need to be planted this year.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: random-strike on June 01, 2009, 03:48:38 AM
the guy is an idiot for shooting him again, even though i think what he did was right. he is fucked
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on June 01, 2009, 03:52:45 AM
Its sick how the media twist and turns shit to make the nigga that got killed look like the victim.  Remember Oscar Grant? the nigga that got killed by the bart cop on new years in oakland?  They painted him as a loving father of a 1 year old son.  Bullshit, I have a friend who knew him and he sold weed and crack in west oakland only blocks from an elementary/middle school.  Fucking media is a bunch of bullshit and liars, i htink he probably shouldn't have shot him again on the ground, not saying i would or wouldn't do it any different, because he was going to die anyway and especially do it on camera. 
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 89shithatch on June 01, 2009, 03:58:30 AM
the guy is an idiot for shooting him again, even though i think what he did was right. he is fucked

if you have no intent on shooting someone and than do because your life is in danger do you really think your mind is thinking the most legal and logical way of handling something? probobly not.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: BoostForLife on June 01, 2009, 04:01:38 AM
he was trying to kill both of them. He put one into stand by mode and chased for another. WHen he came back he shut the power off.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 01, 2009, 04:01:56 AM
remember the first time you shot a deer? your on an adrenalin rush for like 20 min, you cant even remember pulling the trigger, hearing the sound, recocking, and then running after it.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Jorsher on June 01, 2009, 04:02:17 AM
- Anonymous person paid the shooter's $100,000 bail
- He said he shot more because the kid started getting up

- Kid that ran was 14
- They arrested the "getaway" driver, who was in a stolen car, and has prior kidnapping/robbery convictions
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 89shithatch on June 01, 2009, 04:15:04 AM
remember the first time you shot a deer? your on an adrenalin rush for like 20 min, you cant even remember pulling the trigger, hearing the sound, recocking, and then running after it.

exactly my point.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 07:24:26 AM
89shithatch i hope your joking...

the guy CLEARLY turned his back on the dude

with that casual walk (haha hes fucked i shot him in the head he aint going anywhere)
even when he came back he looked at him for a split sec... he wasnt keeping eye contact the entire time and walking DEFENSIVELY to the counter to get the 2nd gun

you dont shoot to kill you shoot to stop the thread anyone who says different is a moron

i think he will get off only because you cant see the lifeless body that he dumped 5 shots into ON camera.. it happends off camera.. but still that look on his face and the indifference for human life might fuck him over too.

this isnt the wild west.. even in WARTIME once someone is down and NOT a threat is it ok to empty the rest of your mag into him?
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 07:25:52 AM
from what i understand the guy is a complete dumbass... he lied to the cops bout how shit went down and when the cops saw the vid they said come here buddy buddy buddy...

so he wants to cap that nigga till heeeezzzz deaddddd

but he wont follow the first fucking rule of DONT TALK TO THE COPS????
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 07:51:05 AM
Buk, you are an idiot.  You don't shoot to stop the situation, because then all you really have to do is miss them 90% of the time.  That is like thinking that racking the slide on a shotgun is going to scare a burglar away.  If you fucking have any second thoughts about where/how much to shoot when you pull a firearm in self defense, you shouldn't fucking own a goddamn gun.  That is why my home defense shotgun stays loaded with 1 in the chamber, and why the handguns that are close by have Black Talons loaded all the way up.  If I am going to pull a weapon, you can bet the fucker is going to be dead
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: BlackDragon on June 01, 2009, 08:14:57 AM
The guy was dumb to shot him again. So its his own fault. He would have gotten away scotts free for self defense. But shooting the guy again in the stomach a 5 min after you already shot him in the head is not self defense. There nothing to get around that.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 97Econobox on June 01, 2009, 08:29:00 AM
Yeah thats bullshit.  When you are scared for your life you empty clips, not Deal out one headshot, chase a dude down, return, pick up another weapon then unload.

If dude had emptyd it, grabbed teh other and then ran off it be a different story but he came back to make sure dude was done.  thats where he fucked up.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Teg2boo on June 01, 2009, 08:46:49 AM
It limits the growing population I guess...
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 01, 2009, 08:59:09 AM
the guy is an idiot for shooting him again, even though i think what he did was right. he is fucked

Agreed, 100%.  Further, all parents should show their kids this shit; fourteen year olds get killed if they act like fools.  The Internet is afordable and accessable to all income levels now, so the trash of any race has no excuse for not showing their hip thuglife children what motherfucking real world consequences are.  I show stuff like this to my kid (especially young boys driving like idiots and killing people, probably the #1 threat to teen lives) so she knows it's no joke.


- He said he shot more because the kid started getting up

Yeah, but you see in the video that he didn't so much as look at the kid as he walked back into the store to get the second gun and finish the job.  He was being a thorough executioner, not acting in self defense because some unarmed 100 lb kid with a hole in his head was scaring him. 

I have some slightly mixed feelings about this, and I don't think they are logical?  If that happened in my home goddamn right I'd empty 5-6 different guns into the body, at my leisure, and feel entirely justified; likewise if I heard of someone else acting in such a manner over the defense of their home.  I'm not sure where in my mind I'm getting a mixed signal about this, because the idiots went in and threatened the lives of women trying to earn a subsitence level wage with guns.  If anything, their extermination is every bit as justified.  I dunno.

All that being said, dude is going to have an interesting trial if he's going back to shoot a second time on camera.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: patsmx5 on June 01, 2009, 09:04:42 AM
If you go into a store to rob a minimum wage person and put their life/family welfare at risk for whatever little penny you will steal, you deserve to be emptied the whole clip at. Color plays no issue here. Kill or be killed, there's no other option when bullets fly in an armed robbery.

To the mother of the dumb negro that said that he shouldn't have killed her son, should have raised him better and this whole fucked up situation wouldn't have happened.
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Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
Buk, you are an idiot.  You don't shoot to stop the situation, because then all you really have to do is miss them 90% of the time.  That is like thinking that racking the slide on a shotgun is going to scare a burglar away.  If you fucking have any second thoughts about where/how much to shoot when you pull a firearm in self defense, you shouldn't fucking own a goddamn gun.  That is why my home defense shotgun stays loaded with 1 in the chamber, and why the handguns that are close by have Black Talons loaded all the way up.  If I am going to pull a weapon, you can bet the fucker is going to be dead

you NEVER say i shot to kill you always say you shot to stop the threat or kept shooting till the threat was gone...

pretty sure a kid with a hole in his head isnt a threat

unless hes the terminator
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: AWDstylez on June 01, 2009, 09:08:16 AM
Yeah thats bullshit.  When you are scared for your life you empty clips, not Deal out one headshot, chase a dude down, return, pick up another weapon then unload.

If dude had emptyd it, grabbed teh other and then ran off it be a different story but he came back to make sure dude was done.  thats where he fucked up.

Exactly.  The dude is a fucking retard.

If you're going to claim self-defense or even adrenalin induced stupidity, that would involve emptying the clip into the kid's head the first time around.  He walked back into the store like nothing happened, had his back to this "oh so threatening noglet" the whole time, THEN he turns around and blast him at point-blank range.  Absolutely retarded.

Although, on the other hand it's good to see one less stupid nig around to rob people.  Too bad he fucked himself for apparently no real reason.

As a disclaimer, I think he was 100% justified in executing this worthless scum of the earth.  Unfortunately that's not how the laws work though.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 09:13:12 AM
No, you say, Officer I firmly believe that my life and the life of my loved ones was threatened and I sought to end the threat permanently.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 09:20:53 AM
No, you say, Officer I firmly believe that my life and the life of my loved ones was threatened and I shot till the threat was no longer a threat

make em say ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 09:23:11 AM
No, you say, Officer I firmly believe that my life and the life of my loved ones was threatened and I shot till the threat was no longer a threat

make em say ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You shouldn't own firearms
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 09:56:37 AM
The moral of this thread is buk is a faggot.

+1 internetz
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: j.h.christ on June 01, 2009, 02:36:19 PM
even in WARTIME once someone is down and NOT a threat is it ok to empty the rest of your mag into him?

you bet your sweet arabian ass it's ok. there are no coroners or csi's overseas. enter room, 3 round bursts, then tap tap as you maneuver through the layout.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Sinister on June 01, 2009, 03:03:54 PM
even in WARTIME once someone is down and NOT a threat is it ok to empty the rest of your mag into him?

you bet your sweet arabian ass it's ok. there are no coroners or csi's overseas. enter room, 3 round bursts, then tap tap as you maneuver through the layout.

+1. Who knows if your bullet wasnt as accurate as you hoped? Eliminate the threat.

IDK if what the guy did with the kid after he came back in was right, but I definitely can't blame him.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: BoostForLife on June 01, 2009, 03:10:25 PM
What would you do if that was your dining room, and you were eating dinner with your family and some dumbshit like this comes in. I would empty many clips into him, probably cut him up and feed them to dogs.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
Half you noggles don't own anything that uses clips.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Sinister on June 01, 2009, 03:12:12 PM
Half you noggles don't own anything that uses clips.

Nope, just a bolt action rifle haha
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: random-strike on June 01, 2009, 03:31:18 PM
i have a m1 garand that uses a clip. thats it.

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Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
yay, someone that knows what they speak of
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 04:25:03 PM
even in WARTIME once someone is down and NOT a threat is it ok to empty the rest of your mag into him?

you bet your sweet arabian ass it's ok. there are no coroners or csi's overseas. enter room, 3 round bursts, then tap tap as you maneuver through the layout.

sigh... i wasnt talking about shooting him once and hoping he dies...
then giving him a couple secs to see if he falls or not..

wtf

im talking about after you enter the room guy can take as many bullets as he wants and be DOWN make your way through the building the other rooms and clear them.. then come back and see guy still contious would you put a couple more bullets in his head?

or w/e scenario you want to toss out there.. guy down for the count but still cautious and not a fucking threat last time i checked soldiers arent allowed to do executions
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: QikEnuF on June 01, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
Yes, if I come back to the room, and the enemy combatant is still moving, I will put more into him
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 04:30:20 PM
Yes, if I come back to the room, and the enemy combatant is still moving, I will put more into him

even if hes no longer a threat?

uhhh youd get charged with murderrrrrrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: random-strike on June 01, 2009, 04:48:36 PM
several guys have been charged with murder for doing that which sucks for them. they have a lot of bs rules to follow when the enemy doesn't
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: SQ is the SQUAD on June 01, 2009, 04:54:30 PM
i just think its funny that the  O0 walks into the store witout his mask on, then gets shot in the head trying to fix his mask so he can see. stupid  O0. but in the end of the day, the store clerk commited murder. the first head shot was self defence. the 5 shots to the back was murder. the worse thing the store clerk could of said was the kid was getting up. that means he was still alive after the head shot and was shot 5 times in the back. ( MURDER)
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: g_shok on June 01, 2009, 04:58:51 PM
if this was an uzi, the several shots to the head would all count as self defence
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 01, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
if this was an uzi, the several shots to the head would all count as self defence
if he had an uzi
1. it would be semi auto
2. he wouldnt have hit him at all
3. no
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: random-strike on June 01, 2009, 05:06:43 PM
if this was an uzi, the several shots to the head would all count as self defence

2. he wouldnt have hit him at all

ahahah true.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: g_shok on June 01, 2009, 05:37:25 PM
what about a tommy gun
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 05:43:12 PM
if this was an uzi, the several shots to the head would all count as self defence

dudeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

is he had 18 rounds in a magazine and 2 magazines and unloaded all 18 rounds into the kid and then reloaded and dumped 18 more rounds it would still be self defense....


but if he had a revolver and dumped 5 rounds into the guy (well say he didnt have a speed loader) and then dumped the shells and then reloaded the next 5 rounds and then dumped 5 more rounds it wouldnt be self defense... even if he did have a speedloader.. it would still be sketchy grounds...

the point isnt how many rounds he put in the kid.. its the fact that the kid was no longer a threat...
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 01, 2009, 05:45:12 PM
several guys have been charged with murder for doing that which sucks for them. they have a lot of bs rules to follow when the enemy doesn't

yup yup war sucks but you know what if we treated the enemy the same way they treat us then the death count would be alot higher over there :/ on both sides...

plus all it takes is one person with a video camera to record a us soldier executing a incapacitated insurgent and then were really fucked.........
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: bluerex on June 01, 2009, 06:33:02 PM
the clerk should be reimbursed for the bullets and given a key to the city. 

Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: rsmith2786 on June 01, 2009, 06:55:25 PM
Sure this isn't the wild west but once somebody pulls a gun on me it's my life or theirs.  I don't care who it is.  You don't pull a gun on someone without realizing that.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: bryantaylor on June 01, 2009, 07:36:09 PM
dude shouldn't have shot the guy more after he wasn't a threat anymore.  but he also shouldn't be charged with murder either.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Conceptz-X on June 01, 2009, 08:26:37 PM
Fucked up any way you look at it. 

Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: spoonfedcrx on June 01, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
Have you seen the guy?  He looks like hes a little slow.  He's got a fucked up back and wheres some crazy ass brace. 

He said he shot the guy after he came back cause he thought he was shot and that one of the female clerks was dead.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 01, 2009, 10:09:50 PM
I agree with bukaroo. If he unloaded the whole clip on him fine, it's self defense. when you come back and unload on the guy it's murder. He set his mind at that point he wanted the guy dead when the threat was over. He'll get out of murder charges easy, definitely deserves manslaughter though.

P.S. If it was me that security tape would have been missing/damaged.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Corey on June 01, 2009, 10:34:55 PM
89shithatch i hope your joking...

the guy CLEARLY turned his back on the dude

with that casual walk (haha hes fucked i shot him in the head he aint going anywhere)
even when he came back he looked at him for a split sec... he wasnt keeping eye contact the entire time and walking DEFENSIVELY to the counter to get the 2nd gun

you dont shoot to kill you shoot to stop the thread anyone who says different is a moron

i think he will get off only because you cant see the lifeless body that he dumped 5 shots into ON camera.. it happends off camera.. but still that look on his face and the indifference for human life might fuck him over too.

this isnt the wild west.. even in WARTIME once someone is down and NOT a threat is it ok to empty the rest of your mag into him?

buk you are a retard, if someone is a big enough threat to use a gun YOU SHOOT TO KILL OR DONT SHOOT AT ALL. im pretty sure thats even written somewhere in the self defense law. go ahead and shoot someone to stop them, and watch yourself get arrested and then sued by the person.

pleaser turn in your guns to the nearest police precinct. you dont belong owning them if you dont understand how they are to be used.

in wartime you absolutley dont only shoot to stop someone, if you hit someone and they dont die you shoot them again because if they arent dead they can still kill you.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: E-b0la on June 01, 2009, 11:19:36 PM
The kid got what he deserved. You wave a gun at someone's face first, you wave your right to live.

The guy is a dumbass for shooting him afterwards, now he's fucked.



Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: ChrisWantsBoost on June 01, 2009, 11:44:08 PM
If it was a case in which the defender shot several times at once to terminate the threat against his life, this wouldn't even be an issue.

In this case, though, with the information given, the defender did not shoot all at once, he had ample time to assest the situation, and determine if the threat from the man with the bullet in his head was still viable. I don't honestly believe that a man with a bullet in his head, lying on the floor motionless is a threat.

To shoot a person that is not a threat to you at that time is against the law.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: stealthiskey on June 01, 2009, 11:54:37 PM
If you shoot somebody in self defense and kill them, is it illegal to shoot their body again?  At that point you aren't "killing" them anymore.

Regardless of his intentions, there's no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid wasn't already dead when he fired the second gun.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: 89shithatch on June 01, 2009, 11:57:25 PM
ample time to assess the situation?? are you fucking high. when you murder someone and have no prior training in doing so do you really think you will be thinking logically after the fact? Fuck No. bottom line dont pull guns on people and you wont get killed. Its not like the guy that shot him was looking for trouble. your whole mindset will change during and after you take hold of the situation. your adreniline is pumping, your thinking survival, not "oh let me shoot him in the knee and hopefully he puts the weapon down" quit having remorse on another nogfuck who cant make his own living the right way. i feel more sorry about running over an already dead racoon than this poor black man being killed because he threatened innocent peoples lives.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: shadow on June 02, 2009, 12:11:48 AM
If you shoot somebody in self defense and kill them, is it illegal to shoot their body again?  At that point you aren't "killing" them anymore.

Regardless of his intentions, there's no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid wasn't already dead when he fired the second gun.

man said boy was moving, so he shot him 4 more times?


man=fucked

Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: random-strike on June 02, 2009, 12:11:54 AM
the guy was on o reilly tonight, and his story has more to it than the video shows.

he says when he came back in the guy was moving on the ground reaching into his pants or for something across his body, one of the women that were in there was screaming something that made him think the other girl was shot while he was outside. so he went over to look at the guy and he was moving around and reaching for something so he shot him again.

he also thought the guy was trying to get up, and this old guy is severely disabled and is wearing a full body metal thing like forest gump's legs.

he has a decent chance of getting off
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 02, 2009, 12:34:12 AM
ample time to assess the situation?? are you fucking high. when you murder someone and have no prior training in doing so do you really think you will be thinking logically after the fact? Fuck No. bottom line dont pull guns on people and you wont get killed. Its not like the guy that shot him was looking for trouble. your whole mindset will change during and after you take hold of the situation. your adreniline is pumping, your thinking survival, not "oh let me shoot him in the knee and hopefully he puts the weapon down" quit having remorse on another nogfuck who cant make his own living the right way. i feel more sorry about running over an already dead racoon than this poor black man being killed because he threatened innocent peoples lives.

No prior training? He's a Gulf war vet. He has plenty of training and knew exactly what he was doing. He DECIDED he was going to make sure that kid was dead. There is no "reaction" in going to get another gun and coming back and shooting him  four more times. Sorry the kid made a shitty decision, but this guy made a shittier one by committing murder.

the guy was on o reilly tonight, and his story has more to it than the video shows.

he says when he came back in the guy was moving on the ground reaching into his pants or for something across his body, one of the women that were in there was screaming something that made him think the other girl was shot while he was outside. so he went over to look at the guy and he was moving around and reaching for something so he shot him again.

he also thought the guy was trying to get up, and this old guy is severely disabled and is wearing a full body metal thing like forest gump's legs.

he has a decent chance of getting off

Yeah with plenty of time to cook up the story after the lawyers got to him. Defense is going to make damn sure there are blacks on the jury. Blacks + on jury = he's fucked or mis trial and gets tried again. NAACP is involved, he won't get away with it.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on June 02, 2009, 01:05:13 AM
I think general consensus here believes in vigilante justice, the best kind of justice.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: turbob16hatch on June 02, 2009, 01:38:24 AM
fuck that little bitch, he did what i would have shoot to kill.

who really cares about another nigger who tried to rob someone.

let um die.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 02, 2009, 02:47:24 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22409967/self-defense.htm#q=O%27Reilly+Factor (http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22409967/self-defense.htm#q=O%27Reilly+Factor)
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 02, 2009, 04:16:14 AM
fuck that little bitch, he did what i would have shoot to kill.

who really cares about another nigger who tried to rob someone.

let um die.

No one is saying shooting to kill is wrong, the fact he came back and decided he wanted to kill that kid is.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 02, 2009, 04:31:48 AM
fuck that little bitch, he did what i would have shoot to kill.

who really cares about another nigger who tried to rob someone.

let um die.

No one is saying shooting to kill is wrong, the fact he came back and decided he wanted to kill that kid is.
watch the vid, guy seems to be telling the truth also seems to be slightly mentally retarded
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 02, 2009, 04:36:45 AM
If he is mentally retarded he shouldn't have a gun. I in no way feel sorry for the kid, he took the chance and lost. The fact he decided to then kill the guy just doesn't sit right. Like I said he'll skate a murder charge, but will probably catch manslaughter.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: buk9tp on June 02, 2009, 04:45:23 AM
like doug said rehearsed story doesnt mean shit when police statements have him blatantly lying
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 02, 2009, 04:54:20 AM
if you have the reports please post up the links
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 02, 2009, 04:58:52 AM
if you have the reports please post up the links

Don't underestimate buks e-power
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Jorsher on June 02, 2009, 04:59:06 AM
Regardless of his intentions, there's no way to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the kid wasn't already dead when he fired the second gun.

They said autopsy showed he ws still alive when final shots were fired.  How they determine this, I don't know, but I don't know shit about autopsies.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: t_cel_t on June 02, 2009, 05:05:49 AM
if you have the reports please post up the links

Don't underestimate buks e-power
i really want to see the reports that show him lying, if what he said on oreilly is different then what he told the police then he is obvoiusly lying, that changes everything
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 02, 2009, 07:16:35 AM
fuck that little bitch, he did what i would have shoot to kill.

who really cares about another nigger who tried to rob someone.

let um die.

No one is saying shooting to kill is wrong, the fact he came back and decided he wanted to kill that kid is.
watch the vid, guy seems to be telling the truth also seems to be slightly mentally retarded

How does that seem like the truth?  Not saying it isn't, but its a little too conveniently confused.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: AWDstylez on June 02, 2009, 08:59:14 AM
Yeah with plenty of time to cook up the story after the lawyers got to him. Defense is going to make damn sure there are blacks on the jury. Blacks + on jury = he's fucked or mis trial and gets tried again. NAACP is involved, he won't get away with it.

That's why you DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS after a shooting.  Not so that you can cook up a story, but because it's well documted that people suffering from acute stress after having their life threatened and having to kill someone else generally forget things, leave things out, tell the story wrong, etc.  That's the #1 rule of self-defense aftermath, DO NOT talk to the cops until you're calmed and a lawyer is present.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Jorsher on June 02, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
Yeah with plenty of time to cook up the story after the lawyers got to him. Defense is going to make damn sure there are blacks on the jury. Blacks + on jury = he's fucked or mis trial and gets tried again. NAACP is involved, he won't get away with it.

That's why you DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS after a shooting.  Not so that you can cook up a story, but because it's well documted that people suffering from acute stress after having their life threatened and having to kill someone else generally forget things, leave things out, tell the story wrong, etc.  That's the #1 rule of self-defense aftermath, DO NOT talk to the cops until you're calmed and a lawyer is present.

Motherfuckers after my accident said I told them I had used marijuana.  Now, I know I hadn't used any (that day), and don't remember talking to the cops at all (kinda pissed me off they asked me about it when I "wasn't there"), but my mother who was there said I never said that shittt.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 02, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
Huh?
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Stealthmode on June 02, 2009, 08:06:16 PM
The guy's gonna get smoked, as he should. There clearly was no threat when the final shots were fired that a kick to the head (if anything) wouldn't have stopped. If a shot guy is such a threat, you don't walk away and come back. There's too many arguments against your life being threatened to do that shit and get away with it (walking away, kicking him, etc.).

The scum that died seems to (by the video) show that he's one of those follower faggots, while the guy that got away was the big bad negro with a gun.

My sentence:

Right guy got shot
Wrong robber got killed
Pharmacist went too OK Coral and he'll pay for it. 6 years to be exact.
Title: Re: Kill a nigga that robs you, go to jail
Post by: Doug on June 02, 2009, 08:58:55 PM
The guy's gonna get smoked, as he should. There clearly was no threat when the final shots were fired that a kick to the head (if anything) wouldn't have stopped. If a shot guy is such a threat, you don't walk away and come back. There's too many arguments against your life being threatened to do that shit and get away with it (walking away, kicking him, etc.).

The scum that died seems to (by the video) show that he's one of those follower faggots, while the guy that got away was the big bad negro with a gun.

My sentence:

Right guy got shot
Wrong robber got killed
Pharmacist went too OK Coral and he'll pay for it. 6 years to be exact.

Fo sho, he is going to get some time out of it for sure. Best case scenario I see for him is a mis trial and the prosecution decides not to waste tax payers money to file charges again. He will nonetheless have a civil suit against him/the pharmacy my the parents and the NAACP backing them. They will turn this into a race case.

Yeah with plenty of time to cook up the story after the lawyers got to him. Defense is going to make damn sure there are blacks on the jury. Blacks + on jury = he's fucked or mis trial and gets tried again. NAACP is involved, he won't get away with it.

That's why you DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS after a shooting.  Not so that you can cook up a story, but because it's well documted that people suffering from acute stress after having their life threatened and having to kill someone else generally forget things, leave things out, tell the story wrong, etc.  That's the #1 rule of self-defense aftermath, DO NOT talk to the cops until you're calmed and a lawyer is present.


Ding ding ding, first thing you do is invoke. Don't say shit. The cops will lie up and down, say they have witness, say they have evidence, etc etc and get you to admit shit. Even if what the say is a complete lie if you are on the hook for what you say.


Yeah with plenty of time to cook up the story after the lawyers got to him. Defense is going to make damn sure there are blacks on the jury. Blacks + on jury = he's fucked or mis trial and gets tried again. NAACP is involved, he won't get away with it.

That's why you DO NOT TALK TO THE COPS after a shooting.  Not so that you can cook up a story, but because it's well documted that people suffering from acute stress after having their life threatened and having to kill someone else generally forget things, leave things out, tell the story wrong, etc.  That's the #1 rule of self-defense aftermath, DO NOT talk to the cops until you're calmed and a lawyer is present.

Motherfuckers after my accident said I told them I had used marijuana.  Now, I know I hadn't used any (that day), and don't remember talking to the cops at all (kinda pissed me off they asked me about it when I "wasn't there"), but my mother who was there said I never said that shittt.

I still think you had a case. Anything you say under duress, under the influence, or not mentally stable ANY confession they get flies out the door as you are more subjective to coercion. With the big gash in your head and concussion anything you said would be out the window.