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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joseph Davis on July 29, 2009, 11:29:16 AM
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what happened?
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site says performing maintenance.
Shitty if they are outta Biz.
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http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/ (http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/)
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what happened?
They sold honda racing parts is what happened. The market is so over saturated with douche bags,cdm parts that its dead. Throw in the worst economic downturn in history and you get nothing but ebay cdm parts left.
Hence why all I do is sell used parts from parts cars,swaps etc. There is no performance market left really. China owns it now atleast for hondas
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When I was telling everyone a couple months back if there are parts you want you better buy them now since they might not be there tomorrow, this is just another sign of that.
I have watched almost every person I know in this field either just call it quits selling off inventory,equipment too downsizing from huge shops in nice areas to moving to hood small shops.
These are people in there late 30's+ who are skilled,15+years in business. Not much left in this story except the end.
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i wonder if Craig is going to have some close-out deals posted here.
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i wonder if Craig is going to have some close-out deals posted here.
From what I understood he was a drop ship company so he wont have much inventory to speak of
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to give you an idea.....I've considered selling my prized ZC 3-4 gearset.
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to give you an idea.....I've considered selling my prized ZC 3-4 gearset.
I sold my zc/si transmission 6 months ago back to Shaun K on the hybrid board. Atleast it will be in good hands.
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Wow. This sucks.
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hondas have been dead for a couple years, its only going to die more.
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So sad.
Glad I bought the rods before it was gone, wish I bought more.
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hondas have been dead for a couple years, its only going to die more.
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its the economy. ive seen mother fuckers sell running B16 long blocks for 200-300$ just to make rent.
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With deepest regret as of July 23rd 2009 Tuner Toys is no longer. Due to the economy we have been forced to close our store and file bankruptcy. We appreciate all of your support throughout the years we have been in business and enjoyed our time serving you, we will miss it greatly.
Tuner Toys
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About a month or two ago I made that thread asking where TT craig was? Couldn't get a hold of anyone for the longest time so figured something was up. That really sucks. I hope Craig still posts on here :-\
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Amazing I have been going strong and have helped 3 people who lost there jobs with part time work at my place.
I made the transition last year to being a used parts King since I saw the downfall of Honda racing. The chinesse cant build a dizzy,alt,starter etc for a shit so a quality used honda one will do the job at half the cost
The next ring of stuff you will see is Engine importers going under. 2 very large ones in california that have been around since the 80's are closing their doors and more are to come.
I cant say this enough if there is a part you want I would buy it once you get cash. It may not be there tomorrow Im not making this shit up kids.
Majority of shops in any automotive parts field are clearing inventory not stocking so once its gone its gone.
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to give you an idea.....I've considered selling my prized ZC 3-4 gearset.
I sold my zc/si transmission 6 months ago back to Shaun K on the hybrid board. Atleast it will be in good hands.
I gave mine to Dave B, same train of thought.
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Street kings went first. Tunertoys was the natural progression. Now, thankfully, Steven T. Smith will lose some of that Minnesota belly that he's gained from oil line sales funded soda and or burgers.
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I'll sell my TT ZC ARP head studs for $500
Really though, this sucks!
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I blame Obama
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i blame the chinks and spics solely
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Hotrex hates puerto ricans
Sad to see Craig go, he had one of the only online shops I trusted completely.
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now where do we get the fittings from
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fuck fuck fuck TT was the shit if they did go down RIP to great place to get parts.
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now where do we get the fittings from
hardware store.
if they don't thread in easy no biggie just put a 1/2 drive socket on it
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now where do we get the fittings from
hardware store.
if they don't thread in easy no biggie just put a 1/2 drive socket on it
+1 that's how we did it back in the day.
If something breaks off while tightening... you'll really learn to appreciate JB Weld.
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
Due time Im sure he will be next.
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
Because he's probably floating on the profits made by selling the old site. Which was only worth so much because of the content posted by it's users. So basically you all worked so that he could stay in business.
Now you know how Johnny feels.
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Sell RHMT to Rick P to fund TT, then create seriously real hmt
Problem solved.
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In this economy Chris Harris' monthly profit margin is greater than the selling price of ex-HMT. Craig got marginalized by not putting his name out here in a more competitive market - notice the drop in his forum participation over the last two years.
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Then tt goes out of business a year later
You guys arent getting the point there is very little money in this field anymore. The most talented people have left and the ones left are in the gutter.
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In this economy Chris Harris' monthly profit margin is greater than the selling price of ex-HMT. Craig got marginalized by not putting his name out here in a more competitive market - notice the drop in his forum participation over the last two years.
He also has tons of overhead which all it takes is 3 very slow months to be gone forever
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Dam, where am I going to get rods for engine biulds, :'(
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They havent had rods for a while now.
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They havent had rods for a while now.
I bought some B-series ones a few months ago.
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Dam, where am I going to get rods for engine biulds, :'(
eagle
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Is fjt still slingin cheap rods?
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Is fjt still slingin cheap rods?
yes but like I was saying alot of people/business are selling inventory and dont have plans on re-ordering so if you want stuff buy now
The money wasnt that great before this stuff happened now with the total collapse of the market most shops are just trying to clear out what they have and go on to something new. Its just the reality the situation.
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this is sad.
but you guys can always buy volkswagens, there's plenty of aftermarket support still.
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this is sad.
but you guys can always buy volkswagens, there's plenty of aftermarket support still.
Ill agree anyone trying to make a living slangin Honda parts is most likely going to be on welfare getting Johnny paying for them to live.
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HOLY SHIT
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2009 is a teaser for what is to come. There are some very large names in the Honda world who should be belly up by 2010 from the word Im hearing.
Big reason why I have been buying stock throttle bodies from all kinds of cars building fixtures etc. I know the Honda world is fucked and will soon be a thing of the past.
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
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Sucks that he went under :(
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Damn this sucks. Like stated earlier it was the only online store I trusted completely. Craig and his wife were top notch to deal with.
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Damn this sucks. Like stated earlier it was the only online store I trusted completely. Craig and his wife were top notch to deal with.
agreed. I still owe them $105 for the extra head gasket they shipped me. But since they wrote it off I will wait until their bankruptcy has went thru and then I will send them cash monies privately.
I loved TT, I ordered a couple hundred from a couple monthes ago. I loved TT
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
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Sucks that he went under :(
Because being a cocksucker is what keeps you in business.
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Damn Criag was the man, he always took care of any hmt member. Its a sad, sad, sad day to see him go.
Well we still have Mike(LSD)!
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I wonder when is somebody going to setup a store dedicated to '88 to '00 Civics like the stores dedicated for Mousestangs and Camhoes. ;D
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I wonder when is somebody going to setup a store dedicated to '88 to '00 Civics like the stores dedicated for Mousestangs and Camhoes. ;D
when someone feels like going bankrupt
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I wonder when is somebody going to setup a store dedicated to '88 to '00 Civics like the stores dedicated for Mousestangs and Camhoes. ;D
Sounds like a losing proposition since most Honduh folks are brokeass motherfuckers. Myself included.
Damn, I just got an oil line setup from Steve. I guess I am lucky to get th TT drain flange and such.
I wonder how long until Mfactory goes under. Those fuckers have some shit that I want still. lol.
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dang I'm gonna have to give him a call. Hes my hookup for sema ;)
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to give you an idea.....I've considered selling my prized ZC 3-4 gearset.
I sold my zc/si transmission 6 months ago back to Shaun K on the hybrid board. Atleast it will be in good hands.
It might be coming to me........
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to give you an idea.....I've considered selling my prized ZC 3-4 gearset.
I sold my zc/si transmission 6 months ago back to Shaun K on the hybrid board. Atleast it will be in good hands.
I gave mine to Dave B, same train of thought.
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I have jizzed on it :) But since I have access to GearX parts, I might have to sell my old stuff.
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
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Well, hopefully when the economy turns around they will be able to start back up and deliver that grade A Service they have always had. Hope to see you back here posting Craig.
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Well, hopefully when the economy turns around they will be able to start back up and deliver that grade A Service they have always had. Hope to see you back here posting Craig.
Years away from that. gas prices are starting to sky rocket again. Round 2 is next. This was the easy part of it.
Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
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honda acura has been a losing field for a few years now. Honda owners are cheapasses, plainly put, and they will find a way to do without you and still get what they want.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecstuning.com%2Fproduct_library%2F4678%2F300%2FAPR%25201.8T%25202-1%25252F2%2522%2520Down-pipe%2520With%2520Gasket%2520%26amp%3B%2520ECS%2520Sleeve%2520Clamp.jpg&hash=32eadef2dee1aefe92fcc112b9caba02f16649e3)
does that look like a 500$ downpipe? because that's what apr gets for them all fucking day.
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I'm buying a camaro to do philosophy doughnuts like a Möbius strip.
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Or bmw.
The honda field besides the k series crowd isnt spending the money. if Honda racing was as big as it was 5+ years ago it didnt matter if people were cheap everybody wanted to do it so the money was there.
It is just getting worse by the day.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
Your logo and or website isn't cool enough. Pay me and I'll whip up a logo, fake dyno charts and a eurotrash website with some stretched tires and sticker bombed fenders and you will make full race look broke.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
Your logo and or website isn't cool enough. Pay me and I'll whip up a logo, fake dyno charts and a eurotrash website with some stretched tires and sticker bombed fenders and you will make full race look broke.
So I guess real dyno charts, and high quality fabrication and machining just isn't enough :-[
How much?
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Dave you defiantly need to update your website. The industrial side isn't bad, but the other side needs work.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
Your logo and or website isn't cool enough. Pay me and I'll whip up a logo, fake dyno charts and a eurotrash website with some stretched tires and sticker bombed fenders and you will make full race look broke.
So I guess real dyno charts, and high quality fabrication and machining just isn't enough :-[
How much?
They don't care about that stuff. There's a 59% chance they won't even put it on their car themselves. You need a narrative with people like that and you don't want to market the engineering side of things like you would to people who actually care. You need to market the aesthetic side and make them feel special about buying your part. That's what makes people feel justified in spending the money. They're buying the pretense to enhance their own personal narrative.
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Maybe rusty downpipes to match the rusty hoods?
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Mk4+ guys are Brand Name Ballaz. The old school water cooled guys are like HMTers (they like booze, guns, women, inexpensive speed) only much much mellower. I work with one of the latter, he draws in some of the $$$ crowd because he'll work on their cars and isn't a hack. Some of those kids are willing to drop some skrill, some aren't, just like a lot of auto enthusiasts.
There are a lot of lisping heterosexuals in the local VW scene, though, kinda disconcerting.
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
dude, you make beautiful shit. caleb is right, you could be making a fucking bundle down here with some marketing and design, especially if your price point is less than apr/eurojet/blahblahblah. i'm somewhat active in the vw scene down here, i can name at least 30 people that i'm on a 1st name basis with just at the gtg's i go to that have name brand downpipes on mkiv's.
also, you're dave right? this should be rather relevant to your interest.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4116669 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4116669)
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Maybe in another field besides Honda/Acura its just too flooded
i'm telling you guys, volkswagen kids pay top dollar for shit. you fabricators can make a KILLING slangin downpipes and other easy shit. give your company a german name and get a decent website and eurotards will throw money at you.
Hardly, every now and than you can strike it lucky with those guys, but never for long. They are just about as cheap as honda guys, sometimes worse, they are usually fine with poor quality parts. I'm not just talking out of my ass here either. I've personally fabricated around 2000 vw downpipes in the last 5 years. I'm not making a killing, or anything that could be closely resembled as making a killing.
dude, you make beautiful shit. caleb is right, you could be making a fucking bundle down here with some marketing and design, especially if your price point is less than apr/eurojet/blahblahblah. i'm somewhat active in the vw scene down here, i can name at least 30 people that i'm on a 1st name basis with just at the gtg's i go to that have name brand downpipes on mkiv's.
also, you're dave right? this should be rather relevant to your interest.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4116669 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4116669)
Lol, that is where passenger got it's start. 1.6td downpipes.
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speaking of which anyone got a spare head for a 93 passat? aaz 1.9 td shitwagon?
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speaking of which anyone got a spare head for a 93 passat? aaz 1.9 td shitwagon?
Dave should, after all he just found the German cast head that was supposed to go on his build, but he lost and ended up with a Mexican head, that ultimately caused the demise of that motor.
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speaking of which anyone got a spare head for a 93 passat? aaz 1.9 td shitwagon?
Dave should, after all he just found the German cast head that was supposed to go on his build, but he lost and ended up with a Mexican head, that ultimately caused the demise of that motor.
is the mexi head og vw or aftermarket shit?
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The mexi head iirc was OG vw. He spend a ton of hours porting it and it end up shiting out the pre combustion chamber and that was the end of the motor.
The German head that he wanted to use for the build, but misplaced it until recently is Genuine VW.
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I think the one I need a head for has a chineese head, the og head had a injector base fucked up from a loose injector. The chineese head broke when the new injector was torqed to spec
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I haven't talked to Craig for a long time, but our wives talk here and there, so I really don't know the whole story.
What I do know:
-I will have Tunertoys block fittings and drain flanges like nothing happened.
-Tunertoys had little overhead, just like myself.
With the way we both run things, I'd have to speculate that a tax break, or other legal benefit would lead to filing for bankruptcy. I would think that in a tough time, or a point where he simply wanted out I would have been offered TT, just as I've offered Stealthmode to him, but I didn't get that offer. That's why the bankruptcy route would seem to be a legal benefit somehow or another. It's true that the economy has slowed sales, but these aren't career business, they're fun challenges. At different points these small businesses have supported a wife staying home, or a slow winter painting season, but I'm confused how a stagnant business could lead to an official closing, unless it's for the reasons I stated above. Just speculation though.
Craig is probably the most standup guy I've met in either of my businesses dealings, and he still will be. I'll still have the things that TT made a name of, and the chinese rods and extra stuff that he had good deals on will have to be sourced from one of the other bazillions of sellers.
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His ebay account has been dead for awhile also. Looks like they were plain done willing to throw time/money into it anymore.
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hondas peaked back in 2003, since then it has been a dying crowd. I remember back in those days it wasn't uncommon to see a nicely done up civic or integra that was turbo'd and relatively quick with tasteful mods. Now the only hondas you see are beat to shit ones owned by beaners with altezza lights and APC racing, RRRRRRRRR rAcINGG stickers all over the car. Hondas have gotten gay, and the scene has gotten even gayer than the beaners driving the hondas these days.
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Went to Import Alliance and I'm sad to say that the only Honda stuff I found was K series or Chinese made shit. Everything else was overpriced mitsu and nissan shit.
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Went to Import Alliance and I'm sad to say that the only Honda stuff I found was K series or Chinese made shit. Everything else was overpriced mitsu and nissan shit.
So Jeremy made the trip without blowing out the blue dash????
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You didn't see the NC crew's cars, then.
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Went to Import Alliance and I'm sad to say that the only Honda stuff I found was K series or Chinese made shit. Everything else was overpriced mitsu and nissan shit.
So Jeremy made the trip without blowing out the blue dash????
He didn't go
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Wow guys, thanks for all of the kind words. TunerWife and I always took customer service seriously, and it really validates our efforts to have you guys speak so well of us and what we tried to do with TunerToys.
The most basic story is that several things led to the demise of TunerToys.
- the crash of the economy
- the continual decline of the Honda/Import performance market
- the constant scrapping and battling for tiny margins on products
- the time required to maintain an online presence
The next chapter in the story will be written soon, but will be in a new direction. Not sure what that will be yet, but I can't sit still for long.
The nice thing about bankruptcy, is that once it is closed, you can up a new company the next day. Once the bankruptcy is over and settled, I'll be a little more active on the site and open little about things.
We are happy to remain the hookup for SEMA, because even if we do not attend ourselves. Having folks attend under our company name, keeps us in an active SEMA Member status, which we do not want to loose.
RHMT is our home site, we'll always be here in one form or another.
Craig
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Modster, Coming to Phx soon? Craig
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dang I'm gonna have to give him a call. Hes my hookup for sema ;)
And will be for as long as I can.
Going to Bonneville next week for a 200MPH attempt. Having been driving Hondata's RSX for the last few months, getting my rookie licensing taken care of.
Craig
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Wow. Good to see everything is okay craig.
So... What happens to the vacuum manifolds. I was just about to order one from you. I just bought a map adaptor for $17. I might sell it for $50 when everyone realizes that TT products are obsolute
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good to see your doing well Craig, hope to see around here more!
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Modster, Coming to Phx soon? Craig
Usually Feb brings the NHRA and an anniversary getaway needed. I'll see what I can do.
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The fact is the Honda "scene" will get so caught up in the CDM crap that it will reach a critical mass soon. People will realize just how shity that stuff is and either "pay to play" or switch hobbies to painting/etc. Basicly everyone I've known with a CDM turbo or manifold have had it break, so I can't understand why ppl still pay $150 for a turbo thrice vs $600 for a solid piece they can always sell for $250 used. It's actually ecconomically sound to buy a real turbo, due to resale & risk of failure.
IMO the only CDM shit that won't go away will be intercoolers, piping, and couplers. Those parts don't demand much quality to work or endure. I just wish someone would start selling decent BOV's and WG's at a fair price, with fair quality. My older friend has a small side business casting parts in China for old Ford "cammers" (big v8's), and has told me current name-brand BOV's and WG's are hugely overpriced.
The other alternative is that the economy will swing back, people will have learned how to live "lean" (no starbux coffee every day, no unlimited dataplan for their blackberry, etc), and have money left over to put towards their hobby - for good parts.
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I see less china crap on Hondas than I did two years ago.
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I see less china crap on Hondas than I did two years ago.
Me too. Ive been trying to tell the local people for years that if you were to buy a good product the first time you wouldent end up spending more money for some crap that you are just gona have to relpace again. THats why my build isnt done yet. I keep saving and buying one part at a time. Yea I could have just bought some crap and thrown it on the car but how long would it have lasted. Ive been building this damn b18/crx setup for over 3+ years. And I have no idea how much ive sunk into it, but when its done, it will be done and I shouldnt have to do anything but just genral work on it.
But back to the subject. Tuner toys has alway been a soild staple here and im sure they new company wil be too. Best of luck to you guys, and hope to see you back. BTW lets see this rsx you talk of.. :yes:
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The fact is the Honda "scene" will get so caught up in the CDM crap that it will reach a critical mass soon. People will realize just how shity that stuff is and either "pay to play" or switch hobbies to painting/etc. Basicly everyone I've known with a CDM turbo or manifold have had it break, so I can't understand why ppl still pay $150 for a turbo thrice vs $600 for a solid piece they can always sell for $250 used. It's actually ecconomically sound to buy a real turbo, due to resale & risk of failure.
IMO the only CDM shit that won't go away will be intercoolers, piping, and couplers. Those parts don't demand much quality to work or endure. I just wish someone would start selling decent BOV's and WG's at a fair price, with fair quality. My older friend has a small side business casting parts in China for old Ford "cammers" (big v8's), and has told me current name-brand BOV's and WG's are hugely overpriced.
The other alternative is that the economy will swing back, people will have learned how to live "lean" (no starbux coffee every day, no unlimited dataplan for their blackberry, etc), and have money left over to put towards their hobby - for good parts.
People have already switched cars/scenes. The street races back in 02,03,04 used to be ALL honda's, nnothing but hondas. now its all domestics, usually beat to shit 5.0s, LT1 gaynesses, and a few stock or bolton ls1's with a few cobras here and there (still gay and slow)
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Actually most people have stayed in the Honda/acura market but upgraded to TSX's etc.
Not sure if TunerToys plans on giving the Honda thing another try but if you guys struggled to make it why bother trying again in a market that is nothing but falling apart in front of everyones eyes.
When importers for example have no plans of bring over anymore containers for the rest of the year you know the shit just doesnt sell anymore. The reality is honda-tech/nhra/nopi and general whoring of the cars killed the spirit of it.
Every kid thinks he knows it all because they read it. thats the typical Honda owner now and I fuckin cant stand them. RHMT is very rare in that people here know that asking for help is part of life. The Hondas I see now are so thrown together by unskilled people its not surprising people look at most of them as a joke.
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Wow. Good to see everything is okay craig.
So... What happens to the vacuum manifolds. I was just about to order one from you. I just bought a map adaptor for $17. I might sell it for $50 when everyone realizes that TT products are obsolute
We can hook you up with some "private stock". Hit me with a PM and we'll set up the deal. Craig
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Not sure if TunerToys plans on giving the Honda thing another try...
Umm ... Nope!
The Honda world went from whored out to dying. Only those doing real performance are spending any money, and with a ton of companies now competing for those limited dollars, it's a pretty tough battle. Margins were beat to nothing on most of the brand name products. In fact, the only real profit margins were on products that we designed and sold ourselves. Sadly, the volume and profit on those items wasn't enough to keep TunerWife paid, so she had to go back to work. (Throughout the TunerToys lifespan, I have always worked full time as a software engineer.) With both of us working full time, and no real sales coming in, we just decided to call it quits.
Personally we'll be okay, there will be some impact from filing bankruptcy, but nothing we can't get through.
I plan on taking it easy for a while, finishing up my 400WHP Vitara MiniMe project, and then maybe looking at some K stuff. Hell I may even try just doing one off specialty projects. Would love to build a Bonneville Car, a convertible CRX, a Fiat Spyder with an S2000 drivetrain or a Acura V6, hell the bucket list is huge!
If we do try something again
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Bump
I want everyone to consider the fact that Craig might still be around if we had collectively worked a little harder to steer business towards him. It's as much our failure as anyone's.
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Bump
I want everyone to consider the fact that Craig might still be around if we had collectively worked a little harder to steer business towards him. It's as much our failure as anyone's.
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Well I think most people went his way but the retail honda world is pretty crappy and the profits arent that great.
Just not enough volume of buyers of name products. When every person after buying 3 parts wants to be hooked up your dealing with a crowd of douche bags.
People dont get the fact that if you sell them a 200 dollar part your profits are maybe 30 bucks if you buy high volume of the stuff. If its a one time deal it may buy him lunch. hooking you up more means no profit at all.
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idk i can feel for the parts slingers when they say sales are down like crazy. but in the end the blame doesn't fall on the scene being dead. it's the wholesalers that allow ANYONE with a business name getting a wholesale account.
So what you think will happen when someone wises up and realizes he can buy all his freinds parts for cheap by spending $25 and having to do paper work 4 times a year.... :?:
So in the end it is the wholesalers that fuck it all up but flooding the market with dealers of product.
For instence i was a dealer of work wheels and was the only in the state as that is all they allow. they keep strict distences between dealers. (yes i know the internet doesn't matter where you are for the most part).
So what was ever done about Yo parts selling tial wastegates for $189 or w/e i heard tial was cracking down but after that idk
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Craig
I really feel for you and it sucks to see you go out of business, but I can understand you have to do what you have to do. I will miss doing business with you. You were awesome to deal with. Almost every part on my engine came from you. You went out of your way to look up parts that were nto even on your site so that I could get them from you and I appreciate that. I hope everything goes well with your future indevors. I do however have one question. You were the only person that had the ARP Head Studs for the ZC. How did you acomplish that if you dont mind me asking and or how can we go about getting those now? Was it a custom set that you ordered from ARP? Was there a part number for that or a compliation of part numbers to put that together?
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Aren't they the same as 87 integra or some shit. If they aren't they should be/
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I'll have to verify that when I get home. I have both heads sitting on my bench.
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Craig thanks for all the solid deals in the past its sad to see how things are going these days.Take care.
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fuck why cant xenofraud go tits up and craig stay >:(
lol
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fuck.
:'(
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the problem with honda performance aftermarket is its catering to 17yr old inbreds (and a few of us), most people i know are bored/sick of hondas now. if i was going to get into the performance aftermarket part sales i would go for bmw, corvette, maybe subaru, shit like that, yuppie and rich guy shit. i dont do much with hondas now but all the d-bags on bimmerforums seem to still be writing checks for $10,000 turbo kits and $2000 cat backs
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The thing is you have to have the money to get involved with the more expensive crowds yourself
I deal with alot of the k series/s2000 crowds most are well into their 30's and find drag racers immature and barbaric in their approach to motorsports. Only reason why i got involved with them is due to my relationships i have made over the years. I continue to do K series parts has they truly are the future. For those who want to have a future you have to learn the stuff and empress it. Road Racing is the only thing left worth a damn in the honda community and the cars showing up at the tracks are pretty fuckin amazing. 300+whp all motor k24's on pump gas that drive 5 hour round trips to the track and spend 10 hours on a road course without failure are hands down badass.
Retail for Honda stuff has always sucked. You need to have your own product line and you need to proof it works. if not its a cool side thing to do to make a couple hundred bucks a month.
From my standpoint I will always have my hand in this stuff and have new parts I have designed that will be out soon once I get around to selling them. Im back in school and now I have to get my mechanical engineering degree and be a fuckin dork like my dad behind a desk but Im trying my hardest to continue to just be a smart grease monkey at the same time.
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it's still amazing to me with all the brilliant people here that no one is making bolt on shit for volkswagens except for dave. companies like apr and eurojet get away with murder on pricing (like 1200$ for an exhaust, or 4000$ for a turbo kit), and the eurotards eat it up because the parts are shiny and the box has a pretty label with a german sounding name.
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it's still amazing to me with all the brilliant people here that no one is making bolt on shit for volkswagens except for dave. companies like apr and eurojet get away with murder on pricing (like 1200$ for an exhaust, or 4000$ for a turbo kit), and the eurotards eat it up because the parts are shiny and the box has a pretty label with a german sounding name.
if a company makes a good quality product, they should get paid accordingly.
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it's still amazing to me with all the brilliant people here that no one is making bolt on shit for volkswagens except for dave. companies like apr and eurojet get away with murder on pricing (like 1200$ for an exhaust, or 4000$ for a turbo kit), and the eurotards eat it up because the parts are shiny and the box has a pretty label with a german sounding name.
if a company makes a good quality product, they should get paid accordingly.
ok
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Tell me what throttle bodies I need to bore and I will build fixtures for them asap.
I know nothing about whats popular in the vw world
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Im total serious too I have been doing alot of new stuff these days and would love to start to do throttle bodies for vw stuff also.
I have plenty of material around the shop to make fixtures. Does anyone make aftermarket intake manifolds for the vw stuff?
Again whats popular and Ill go buy some gaskets,used parts for those models. Make the fixture for the flowbench get some #'s out of the manifolds and see how large I can go bore wise for the throttle bodies.
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it's still amazing to me with all the brilliant people here that no one is making bolt on shit for volkswagens except for dave. companies like apr and eurojet get away with murder on pricing (like 1200$ for an exhaust, or 4000$ for a turbo kit), and the eurotards eat it up because the parts are shiny and the box has a pretty label with a german sounding name.
if a company makes a good quality product, they should get paid accordingly.
$120 for an exhaust flange for a 16v. There's a difference between paid accordingly and what Jesus is talking about. I work with an early water cooled VW guy who clowns the mid-90s up crowd for being the consumer tards they are.
Tell me what throttle bodies I need to bore and I will build fixtures for them asap.
I know nothing about whats popular in the vw world
You'll have to rename your business to Das Polarbear Tuning. DPT has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
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Im total serious too I have been doing alot of new stuff these days and would love to start to do throttle bodies for vw stuff also.
I have plenty of material around the shop to make fixtures. Does anyone make aftermarket intake manifolds for the vw stuff?
Again whats popular and Ill go buy some gaskets,used parts for those models. Make the fixture for the flowbench get some #'s out of the manifolds and see how large I can go bore wise for the throttle bodies.
anything 1.8t/2.0t. vw owners for the most part are fucking ricers to their very core... with one difference. while a jdm ricefan will go to shucks to get a 12 dollar spectre air filter, the vw ricer will go and spend 200 dollars on an intake, when the 12 dollar one will net you the same gains. i see people say it everyday, "it's cheap, it must not be good." that's why abd/apr/whoever gets 1200 dollars for an intercooler, and they all charge 500$ to flash what amounts to a basemap on an ecu.
anyways, here's what abd (a popular company) charges for their 1.8t shit.
http://abdracingwerks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ADIAR&Category_Code=TP (http://abdracingwerks.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=ADIAR&Category_Code=TP)
here's some apr price points.
http://goapr.com/products/intercooler_fmic.html (http://goapr.com/products/intercooler_fmic.html)
900$ for a cat back exhaust? you bet!
http://goapr.com/products/apr_exhaust_mkiv_3.html (http://goapr.com/products/apr_exhaust_mkiv_3.html)
Steve, can you beat this price on a 2 foot oil line with gaskets?
http://store.goapr.com/products/Turbo-Oil-Lines-1.8T.html (http://store.goapr.com/products/Turbo-Oil-Lines-1.8T.html)
anyways, that's how retarded it is.
You'll have to rename your business to Das Polarbear Tuning. DPT has a nice ring to it, don't you think?
holy shit. that is a winner.
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If I was to do it which I will just need to start crossing part #'s buying gaskets etc I do need to come up with cool german sounding name. Also make sure my last name is never known to the german racing crowd.
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$120 for an exhaust flange for a 16v. There's a difference between paid accordingly and what Jesus is talking about. I work with an early water cooled VW guy who clowns the mid-90s up crowd for being the consumer tards they are.
he is completely on the money. i got banned on an old screen name there for going on the tech forums on the vortex and through trying to spread the rhmt spirit amongst the 1.8t tech threads. just tried to show people that there is indeed a better way than spending 500 dollars on a 2.5 foot downpipe with a 45 degree bend in it or 1600 dollars on a t28 flanged turbo that bolts to the stock cast mani. i was called a liar and numerous other things, but whatever.
i'm doing a turbo d in a rabbit soon anyways, fuck them.
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keep them stupid I want a nsx to go to the track with
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keep them stupid I want a nsx to go to the track with
have fun reading this garbage
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755)
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Hardcore vw, is kind of like the rhmt of the vw world. It is still not rhmt, but in comparison to vortex, it is less faggy then ohmt is now. The "locked" Hardcore vw is even less gay again.
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ok id like to rephrase my last statement. VW owners are so retarded they deserve to pay whatever a company wants for a part.
the owners worth a fuck will find other means.
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keep them stupid I want a nsx to go to the track with
have fun reading this garbage
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755)
Theres so much misinformation there, that I think I reverted to being 16 again and not knowing the difference between a supercharger and a turbo. FUCK.
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keep them stupid I want a nsx to go to the track with
have fun reading this garbage
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4539755)
OMG, @ that shit I just read......lol
Well I guess I will just throw my To4 away and run the rhb5 then. In the end I will end up with the same power.....lol
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wow talk about a bunch of fucking morons.
"a larger turbo is more efficient"
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"Let me get this going!
On a 1.8T motor, a K03S and a GT35R both set to 15 psi are flowing the same volume of air into the engine. (Not taking into account the increase in Volumetric Efficiency created by the larger hot side)."
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I need to be held by a beautiful woman after that thread.
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I need to be held by a beautiful woman after that thread.
imagine having to wade through bullshit like that everyday. i really wish i could get back into hondas. oh well, vitara powered 84 rabbit will be here by early 2010 and i can have my cake and eat it too.
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I need to be held by a beautiful woman after that thread.
imagine having to wade through bullshit like that everyday. i really wish i could get back into hondas. oh well, vitara powered 84 rabbit will be here by early 2010 and i can have my cake and eat it too.
DO IT!
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I think that if you posted a build thread with that on the Kotex that their world would implode.
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I think that if you posted a build thread with that on the Kotex that their world would implode.
i guess a guy did a b16b swap in one, and the 99% of badge fucking fan boys told him to gtfo. fuck that and fuck them. i love the looks of the old rabbits, and i love the simplicity of a turbo d. gutted they weigh around 1750 lbs. makes sense to me.
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I think that if you posted a build thread with that on the Kotex that their world would implode.
i guess a guy did a b16b swap in one, and the 99% of badge fucking fan boys told him to gtfo. fuck that and fuck them. i love the looks of the old rabbits, and i love the simplicity of a turbo d. gutted they weigh around 1750 lbs. makes sense to me.
Yeah the whorenet shell is done and I want to swap it all into my buddies old bunny.
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I think that if you posted a build thread with that on the Kotex that their world would implode.
i guess a guy did a b16b swap in one, and the 99% of badge fucking fan boys told him to gtfo. fuck that and fuck them. i love the looks of the old rabbits, and i love the simplicity of a turbo d. gutted they weigh around 1750 lbs. makes sense to me.
Yeah the whorenet shell is done and I want to swap it all into my buddies old bunny.
pics and a little writeup would be awesome. i'm not smart, and anything i don't have to figure out on my own makes it that much easier.
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I think that if you posted a build thread with that on the Kotex that their world would implode.
i guess a guy did a b16b swap in one, and the 99% of badge fucking fan boys told him to gtfo. fuck that and fuck them. i love the looks of the old rabbits, and i love the simplicity of a turbo d. gutted they weigh around 1750 lbs. makes sense to me.
Yeah the whorenet shell is done and I want to swap it all into my buddies old bunny.
I like this idea. I'm guessing your talking about sobus's formerly na diesel rabi?