:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: Honda Bob on July 30, 2009, 09:54:34 AM
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I'm going to be building a turbo manifold for my civic. I have all the flanges and pipe, I just have to put it the motor in my car and start mocking stuff up.
The motor is a F22b dohc going into a 97 civic. I'm told the turbo is a GT66. I bought it second hand, not exactly sure what it is other than garrett and ball bearing with a 1.12ar divided t4 exhaust, looks like a gt35/37r/ sc61 in physical size. It does have a 4" vband exhaust though, so a 4" downpipe is in the plans. I may try to find a smaller exhaust housing in the future though. I just dont have the money to buy a brand new turbo with the specs that I want. (i'm sure you guys know how that goes)
I am going to be building the setup to get the most power from a stock block f22 that I can. I'm planning to drop in a sleeved block in the future, and then I want to aim for 600-700 whp.
My parts list includes the manifold flange, 2 38mm wg flanges, t4 divided flange, 20x sch10 elbows and 8ft of sch10 pipe. I wanted to have more than not enough.
I have fabrication skills, but this is my first manifold from scratch.
Down to the actual situation.
I'm not sure what "style" of a manifold to build. I'm kinda set on building a top mount, but a front facing manifold would be pretty sweet. I am going to be running a water to air, so I'll have the room. I haven't ruled out a sidewinder stlye, but I'm not sure if that is going to be an efficient way to go.
I have ruled out a log/ram/mini ram. I just dont think there will be room for the downpipe.
Instead of winging it, I thought i'd get some other opinions from you guys.
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If you have the room, front face low mount.
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Build a manifold identical to a ramhorn but on runners 1 and 4 use 45's as the first bend off the head flange. place the turbo with the compressor on the drivers side. Under the alternator.i recommend a 4.5" or 5" collector pending the size of your turbo and how much clearance you want.
I have used this to fit "ramhorn" style manifolds on h22 civic's i can't imagine the f22b is that much different.
That's my 2 cents
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Build a manifold identical to a ramhorn but on runners 1 and 4 use 45's as the first bend off the head flange. place the turbo with the compressor on the drivers side. Under the alternator.i recommend a 4.5" or 5" collector pending the size of your turbo and how much clearance you want.
I have used this to fit "ramhorn" style manifolds on h22 civic's i can't imagine the f22b is that much different.
That's my 2 cents
That would be cool, but I'm not sure if I could get a 4" downpipe through there.
And yes, I'm set on the 4", I'm not gonna cop out and put a 4" to 3" reducer there at the turbo when I have a full 4" exhaust already on the car.
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2.5" exhaust is where its at, just make a nog-a-log O0
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2.5" exhaust is where its at, just make a nog-a-log O0
Lol.
The 4" was the closest thing i could figure out to an open downpipe that exits from the rear of the car... Plus the materials for that were free.
Unless I swap out exhuast housings, there will be a 4" downpipe that needs to be worked into the setup.
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if you cant fit a 4" downpipe on a bottom mount manifold, what makes you think it will fit with a top mount.
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There will be more space for the bends with a top mount, more room for the 90 degree down, and the 90 degree turn back.
I could pie cut the shit out of it for the tighter radius. Not trying to bitch out or anything... but that's alot of work I could spend on something else. There is a lot more pipe to weld on a 4" over a 2.5 or 3" pipe.
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ive built more then a few downpipes, i know about fitting stuff in tight places 8). but again youre still going to have the same issue trying to fit a 4" from the top as the bottom. you shouldnt need to use pie cuts anyways. a 4" DP is going to come down in front of the bell housing regardless if its a topmount or bottom.
i guess id have to see a picture of an H/F in a civic.
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nevermind if i paid attention i would have noticed you had a divided turbo. topmount is def the easiest route.
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