:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kenny Rogers on August 01, 2009, 12:33:30 PM
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Craigslist is coming up with high mileage 1990 4Runners, some pathfinders, etc. I don't care about mileage if it's going to last a while.
Priority list:
1) Reliability... it's gonna be my daily driver in the near future. I don't mind working on a vehicle, just not every other day and for twice as much $ as I paid for it.
2) 4x4 capability
3) Everything else (horsepower, creature comforts, safety, etc... not THAT important)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.naughtyteenpink.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2008%2F01%2Fteen-pink-vanessa.jpg&hash=32acba4a08b2beb3ef8cda54d84ce02b658a3cbe)
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/for/1300449965.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/for/1300449965.html)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1300314239.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1300314239.html)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1299344139.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1299344139.html)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html)
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1292658617.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1292658617.html)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1290140582.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1290140582.html)
I would pick up any one of them. All have easy to find parts and are pretty easy to work on. I would lean more towards the civics than the others, but thats because im kinda a older honda fan.
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html)
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.
I like this one... run it til it dies then throw in a swap. TPRC v2.0? ;)
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1300376437.html)
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I will help you find a motor and also help you get it in. We could park it in my the garage and we could knock it out in a few hours.
I like this one... run it til it dies then throw in a swap. TPRC v2.0? ;)
What I like is that it wont pass smog, but here in kitsap it dont fucken matter, no smog test for us.
Im sure ryan has a built dohc we could steal out of his delslut and put in it... :P
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4runner no questions asked.
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4runner no questions asked.
Always way over priced though. Hes not gona be out mudding in it. Just something to mob around in the snow and maybe a loging road to get to a campsite. My vote is for a RT4wd civic wagon.
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4runner no questions asked.
Always way over priced though. Hes not gona be out mudding in it. Just something to mob around in the snow and maybe a loging road to get to a campsite. My vote is for a RT4wd civic wagon.
+boost
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My vote is for a RT4wd civic wagon.
+boost
Naturally
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4 runner... 1800, seems decent
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1291722714.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1291722714.html)
I have spent time getting to know hondas... Toyotas, not so much. I'm gonna have to do some research.
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Jeep Cherokee
you can find them in auto or manual, a/c, the whole nine yards for under $1500
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I'll keep a jeep in mind too. Which engine has a better design - the 4 cylinder 22re or the v6 3vz?
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ford explorer with the 4.0l and ttb front suspension++MUST BE MANUAL++ and check to make sure the 4x4 acuator works (they sieze up from not useing). I hate the 4runner 3.0l v6 and the autos and the 5 spd and the torsion bars with rear coils.
but you know the rt4wd wagon and a 10 pounds owns all.
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ford explorer with the 4.0l and ttb front suspension++MUST BE MANUAL++ and check to make sure the 4x4 acuator works (they sieze up from not useing). I hate the 4runner 3.0l v6 and the autos and the 5 spd and the torsion bars with rear coils.
but you know the rt4wd wagon and a 10 pounds owns all.
Certain model come with the ttb front suspension?
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91-95
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Dont buy a POS Ford Explorer, So far Ive put a motor, water pump, fuel pump, and all new bushings in the front and it has 120,000 :?:
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Dont buy a POS Ford Explorer, So far Ive put a motor, water pump, fuel pump, and all new bushings in the front and it has 120,000 :?:
in 17 years I have never changed a 91-95 4.0l water pump that I can rember, They do like to chew the pushrods up and tick if the owner didn't change the oil. I thought that thing was yor moms or some shit?
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i love the 4runner because it is dead reliable. i can't remember how many times my friend drove in and out of town going 75 wot the whole way. (yeah it was low on power/bigger tires). but never a problem with it.
and his jeep cherokee with the 4.0L 6 cly.(?) only issue was leaky injectors, and a steering shimmy. but that was due to the 4.5" lift and 31's.
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1989 Mitsu Montero? http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1298892936.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/1298892936.html)
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I'm buying a 95 land rover discovery for $2200 cash, hopefully this week.
Doesnt really get much more SUV than that.
Ive had my 94 isuzu trooper now for 8 years and cant complain one bit. Another bitchin true SUV that can be had for the $2g range if you look.
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snap, totally forgot about the trooper... my buddy used to have one, that thing was a tank.
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Isuzu Trooper. They're worthless and easy to find cheap. Very reliable and very capable. Japaneese made and they're awesome trucks. (crazy shit, like it has a frame under it, amongst many other oddities).
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Troopers. I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.
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Troopers. I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.
I've never seen or heard of either of these problems. But I can say they're great trucks for the money, and pretty damn reliable. Just drove my 86' Trooper 260 miles to Starkville. 22.5 MPG too.
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Oh yeah, and it has 224K miles on the clock. :)
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http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/ctd/1295483097.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/ctd/1295483097.html)
That would probably be worth looking at. In my experience with toyota's mileage means nothing if it runs good, and has oil changes.
The 22-RE is easier to work on, especially in a 4runner/truck chassis. There's more room
The 3vze does have more appropriate umph for the 4runner though, but is a bit tighter on space under the hood.
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Bottom line toyota makes some extremly reliable vehicles that last forever. only problem is in most cases engine/drivetrain outlasts the body.
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22r FTW my mother old 4runner had 350k on it when she got rid of it. Still ran great, oh and as far as maintenance she would change the oil every 8k :-X the truck would not die.!!!
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shit i have a geo prizm (same as a corolla) with the 4afe engine and it has 230k on it and runs good no problems. i drive the dog piss out of it to.
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Troopers. I don't know what I love about them more, how they crack between the valve seats for no reason, or the engine harness catches on fire for no reason.
I have never ever heard of either of these issues. The only issue they have is the stupid tick which is from the shitty lifters. Mine ticks. It has 195k miles on it, ive made probably 15-20 1000 mile road trips with it, it will go through dam near anything, its got a ton of room in it....and its never really givin me any problems. I did put KYB shocks on it, and poly swaybar bushings which helped the handling a ton. Ive maintained the crap out of mine also. New pumps, belts, regular oil changes, etc. etc. etc.
Wire harness catching fire and the valve seats cracking or the wire harness catching fire. NEVER heard or seen anything about this. Not on the forums, never seen one in a yard burnt, nothing.
id recommend a trooper to anyone. btw, dont get the dohc version. everything costs way more for replacement parts. dont know why, but it does.
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That's because all the trucks prone to wiring fires are gone, or fixed, ten years ago. Some small number of the fires were caused by leaky injectors, FYI, there are a couple TSB about it, but most would short the alternator without blowing a fuse (!?) and they'd go *poof*
As far as the heads, there are a lot more threads across the internet but this one merely has 20+ unique posters commenting on the problem... http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/isuzu/trooper/r44675/comments/ (http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/isuzu/trooper/r44675/comments/)
Let me guess, you guys mostly have the 2.3 and not the 2.6?
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so if they are all gone, er so you say, whats the worry?
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Because the head problem still exists.
Kenny, quit fucking around with wanting to make a cross-brand jump at a financially fragile time in your life. I wouldn't wish an Exploder on you, nor a Land Rover like Mister Pants just bought (and was warned about, just like he was warned about that 2.5RS he unloaded). Get the fucking RT4WD wagon, or if you really have to mix it up get a Legacy wagon - while the older Loyale based stuff is reliable if you dump a quart of oil in it every 400 miles, I don't like cars designed to leak oil. Everything else mentioned in this thread is shit, and comparatively has less than zero reliability.
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Thats what i was saying jd, older subie wagon like 87-88 ish and or a civic wagon. The older turbo wagons were runners. And i like the rhb5 action
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No, the EA82's were dubbed "1.8 leakers" for a reason. I'd take some early FWD or AWD naturally aspirated EJ22 legacy action over them anyday.
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because the head problem still exists.
Everything else mentioned in this thread is shit, and comparatively has less than zero reliability.
I don't disagree with you on a lot of things, and usually respect your decision, but I will totally disagree with you on this statement nor do I respect your thoughts.
The trooper is a fucking beast. You are the only one I have ever heard speak of a valve seal issue. I mentioned the tick, but its not a problem other than its annoying. Ive had my trooper for 8 years now, and still yet to see a reason to get rid of it. Oil every 400 miles? My trooper uses less oil than any Honda I have ever owned. The OP mentioned he wanted a SUV, and a real SUV. I would not relate a 4dr wagon a SUV. Honda produced the passport and "honda" also made the SLX which is dam near identical to the Trooper. Some argue that the sohc 3.2 is/was made by honda for isuzu.
Worried about cost? Like I mentioned, you can source troopers for the 2g range all day long. I'm paying the 2k range for my rover.
So from personal experience, id say your thoughts are totally worthless on this issue. Your entitled to your opinion though. You want a trailer :)
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because the head problem still exists.
Everything else mentioned in this thread is shit, and comparatively has less than zero reliability.
I don't disagree with you on a lot of things, and usually respect your decision, but I will totally disagree with you on this statement nor do I respect your thoughts.
The trooper is a fucking beast. You are the only one I have ever heard speak of a valve seal issue. I mentioned the tick, but its not a problem other than its annoying. Ive had my trooper for 8 years now, and still yet to see a reason to get rid of it. Oil every 400 miles? My trooper uses less oil than any Honda I have ever owned. The OP mentioned he wanted a SUV, and a real SUV. I would not relate a 4dr wagon a SUV. Honda produced the passport and "honda" also made the SLX which is dam near identical to the Trooper. Some argue that the sohc 3.2 is/was made by honda for isuzu.
Worried about cost? Like I mentioned, you can source troopers for the 2g range all day long. I'm paying the 2k range for my rover.
So from personal experience, id say your thoughts are totally worthless on this issue. Your entitled to your opinion though. You want a trailer :)
This.Troopers are good damn trucks for the money, and you'd be a fool to think otherwise. There's always some little issues with something, that's anything. My dad's had a 99' trooper for a few years. The starter died one day and we replaced it. Other than that, it has just run. It pulls a trailers or boat half the time.
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because the head problem still exists.
Everything else mentioned in this thread is shit, and comparatively has less than zero reliability.
I don't disagree with you on a lot of things, and usually respect your decision, but I will totally disagree with you on this statement nor do I respect your thoughts.
The trooper is a fucking beast. You are the only one I have ever heard speak of a valve seal issue.
Everyone I've talked to in the last five years that drives one loves it and talks about it like you do yours. But I remember when the vehicles were newer, 10-13 years ago, and I had to yank a lot of heads. Not a difficult job, but the taste of failure lingers and i couldn't bring myself to buy one.
Also, did you even read the thread I linked to concerning valve seats/heads cracking? It's not a seal problem, it's cracking.
Honda produced the passport
Uh, no. That's an Isuzu pile of failure. The local dealer alternative, Honda/Acura Service Center informs Passport owners their vehicle is an Isuzu and to seek an Isuzu specialist - most of those need a fuel pump/sender combo which requires the ECU be recalibrated so the gauge reads right and they don't want to drop the tank or buy the tool.
So from personal experience, id say your thoughts are totally worthless on this issue. Your entitled to your opinion though. You want a trailer :)
Funny when my thoughts are backed up by a simple netsearch, whereas yours are entirely anecdotal or vast personal experience with one vehicle.
And, I don't want a trailer or any other such garbage. I want a goddamn deal - on anything - that I can turn around and sell/trade to my financial gain. You're the one that's trying to sell *me* the trailer. After you being told three times that I'm not looking for closed/enclosed/size/amenities/etc but for a motherfucking steal I can profit off of you keep asking me what sort of trailer I'm looking for, and somehow think I in any way shape or form want a trailer for myself.
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the simpsons canyonero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCzCXyQ-bv0#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
this
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because the head problem still exists.
Everything else mentioned in this thread is shit, and comparatively has less than zero reliability.
I don't disagree with you on a lot of things, and usually respect your decision, but I will totally disagree with you on this statement nor do I respect your thoughts.
The trooper is a fucking beast. You are the only one I have ever heard speak of a valve seal issue.
Everyone I've talked to in the last five years that drives one loves it and talks about it like you do yours. But I remember when the vehicles were newer, 10-13 years ago, and I had to yank a lot of heads. Not a difficult job, but the taste of failure lingers and i couldn't bring myself to buy one.
Also, did you even read the thread I linked to concerning valve seats/heads cracking? It's not a seal problem, it's cracking.
Honda produced the passport
Uh, no. That's an Isuzu pile of failure. The local dealer alternative, Honda/Acura Service Center informs Passport owners their vehicle is an Isuzu and to seek an Isuzu specialist - most of those need a fuel pump/sender combo which requires the ECU be recalibrated so the gauge reads right and they don't want to drop the tank or buy the tool.
So from personal experience, id say your thoughts are totally worthless on this issue. Your entitled to your opinion though. You want a trailer :)
Funny when my thoughts are backed up by a simple netsearch, whereas yours are entirely anecdotal or vast personal experience with one vehicle.
And, I don't want a trailer or any other such garbage. I want a goddamn deal - on anything - that I can turn around and sell/trade to my financial gain. You're the one that's trying to sell *me* the trailer. After you being told three times that I'm not looking for closed/enclosed/size/amenities/etc but for a motherfucking steal I can profit off of you keep asking me what sort of trailer I'm looking for, and somehow think I in any way shape or form want a trailer for myself.
I guess on this subject we will agree to disagree. My 8 years of personal experience with the trooper outweigh one link on the internet about the things.
and you should have no problems making money on a trailer.
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I made an offer of $1,600 on this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html)
It has 270k, so in my email to the dealer I detailed the number of things potentially wrong with it, or about to fail. We'll see... it's $700 under the asking price.
I still have an open mind though, this one looks decent too (caution: ford)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html)
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besides the passenger valve cover leaking on the 4.0 V6 they are easy to maintain
the 4x4 drive motor on the transfer case like to stick/go out if it hasnt been used very much
but they are easy and cheap to replace
if the auto hubs on it are shot then your looking at some money to rebuild/replace
or you can do a manual lock out swap on them for about $200-250
ive had 3 and they have all been beasts :noel:
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I've never heard of the 4.0 being called a beast before.
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4runner>explorer
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All the decent 4 runners seem to be $3500+. It seems all the 4 runners for $2k has something significantly wrong.
It took some time, but I talked the wife into the civic wagon rt4wd as the best financial decision. Her only argument was that it's ugly. I win :P
There are 2 for sale in my area, one at the dealership and one owned by some kid who cut the springs because it "looks sick"... and also has a fucked up axle :-\
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I made an offer of $1,600 on this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html)
It has 270k, so in my email to the dealer I detailed the number of things potentially wrong with it, or about to fail. We'll see... it's $700 under the asking price.
I still have an open mind though, this one looks decent too (caution: ford)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html)
nothing pisses me off more than when someone nit picks a 1500- car...needing 700 in parts. Its a fucking 1500 car. if you want a car thats in great condition, buy a car in great condition.
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I made an offer of $1,600 on this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html)
It has 270k, so in my email to the dealer I detailed the number of things potentially wrong with it, or about to fail. We'll see... it's $700 under the asking price.
I still have an open mind though, this one looks decent too (caution: ford)
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1346272850.html)
nothing pisses me off more than when someone nit picks a 1500- car...needing 700 in parts. Its a fucking 1500 car. if you want a car thats in great condition, buy a car in great condition.
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It is in good condition, supposedly. Still, $2,300 is over blue book for the mileage. If they don't go for my offer, meh. You guys would actually pay dealership prices?
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All the decent 4 runners seem to be $3500+. It seems all the 4 runners for $2k has something significantly wrong.
It took some time, but I talked the wife into the civic wagon rt4wd as the best financial decision. Her only argument was that it's ugly. I win :P
There are 2 for sale in my area, one at the dealership and one owned by some kid who cut the springs because it "looks sick"... and also has a fucked up axle :-\
That blows. Even if you can find one with some rust on the body, as long as they're structurally sound and run good they're a good buy.
I bought my winter beater 4runner for $1800. Body rusty as hell but it ran great. Never complained a bit.
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It is in good condition, supposedly. Still, $2,300 is over blue book for the mileage. If they don't go for my offer, meh. You guys would actually pay dealership prices?
ah. I thought you lowballed a 1500 car. yeah, id pay 1500- for that.
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It is in good condition, supposedly. Still, $2,300 is over blue book for the mileage. If they don't go for my offer, meh. You guys would actually pay dealership prices?
I wouldn't pay private party prices.
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I know where you could get a smoking deal on a 1990 Subaru Legacy wagon :yes:
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I made an offer of $1,600 on this:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/1348695790.html)
It has 270k, so in my email to the dealer I detailed the number of things potentially wrong with it, or about to fail. We'll see... it's $700 under the asking price.
They never responded to my email so I called the dealer. I asked what's the best price they could offer me. They said $2,300, but the boss was thinking about raising the price... lol, ok. So I offered $1,800 + TTL (Pushing $2k total)... that's the most I'd pay for the wagon, but they declined. I can wait longer than them, I have lots of time.
There are two public auctions this month I want to check out. If you get there 3 hours early you can kick the tires and check them out before they're auctioned. We'll see if there's anything worth looking at when they publish the inventory.
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Either get a CR-V because everyone on here seems to suck fucking dicks to get there hands on a Honda. OR get a Jeep Cherokee up til about '98. Those 4.0's are strong and are hard to blow up. And if you do manage to, I'm sure you can pick up a motor for a few hundred.
You can now close this thread/
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Either get a CR-V because everyone on here seems to suck fucking dicks to get there hands on a Honda. OR get a Jeep Cherokee up til about '98. Those 4.0's are strong and are hard to blow up. And if you do manage to, I'm sure you can pick up a motor for a few hundred.
You can now close this thread/
CR-V for under $2k? Yeah, good luck with that. 4.0 Jeeps are on my list of possible options.
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I'm not opposed, I just don't know enough about the Rodeo/Passport to make a decision. They are relatively cheap compared to other 4wd SUV's with the same age/mileage. Obviously the price is a plus, but it makes me apprehensive that it'll take a shit quicker than the others. I'll look into it though.
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The douchbag dealer upped the price on that rt4wd wagon to $2700 ::)
SO, I looked at this one -
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1342719534.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1342719534.html)
Owned by a young kid, "needs a new axle" because the boot is ripped and won't hold grease, probably neglected over time and fucked it up. Not sure how difficult it would be to find a replacement. I doubt they use the same axles as the other wagons.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Stsshane%40comcast.net+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a (http://www.google.com/search?q=Stsshane%40comcast.net+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
Thanks? lol, I found out the kid is a good skier - http://www.thajarmin.com/view.php?id=1418196 (http://www.thajarmin.com/view.php?id=1418196)
KBB private party for "good" is $1,285... axle damage doesn't put this car as good, but I'm still willing to offer $1200. These cars are pretty rare, I searched crazedlist (total CL search) and all the cars in ok shape were 2600+
Schucks reman'd axle: $60... should be easy.
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Ive never had a bad axel on a civic/honda shake the car at any speed. But I have had a out of balance wheel make the car shake like crazy.
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I know it's not an SUV, but have you guys ever heard of the Isuzu Impulse RS? For some reason, this is the first I've ever heard of it. It was GM so the body looks like a Geo Storm, but the RS is AWD, turbo, suspension by Lotus supposedly. AWD consists of Front/Rear viscous LSD's, helical center diff.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1374715550.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1374715550.html)
I'm not really considering buying it, I'm just amazed I've never even heard of this thing.
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If it's not shitcanned, I'd buy it. The think is a tiny bit tight in the engine bay but nothing's buried so you can still work on it. It sports GM connectors, but is wired like a Honda ie the engine harness plugs disconnect on the pass shock tower - very much intelligent design. A clutch job, using hand tools and jackstands, takes about six to seven hours so it's really cake by AWD standards (save the old 80s Scoobies you yanked the engine to do a clutch in).
Those are nice cars, dude.
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I know it's not an SUV, but have you guys ever heard of the Isuzu Impulse RS? For some reason, this is the first I've ever heard of it. It was GM so the body looks like a Geo Storm, but the RS is AWD, turbo, suspension by Lotus supposedly. AWD consists of Front/Rear viscous LSD's, helical center diff.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1374715550.html (http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/1374715550.html)
I'm not really considering buying it, I'm just amazed I've never even heard of this thing.
You dont want that thing, I have a sweet 90 Subaru legacy ill sell you. Its shit brown the ladys love it
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BTW, that RS runs the same dinky chihuahua head sized IHI turbo that came on 80s turbo Subarus, or on jagojon3's car. It has a wierdfuck 5 bolt flange, but you can swap the turbine housings directly over or you can use the Subaru housing as the turbine entry and the Scooby 3-bolt pattern perfectly aligns things.
If it were mine I'd put a WRX turbo on it out of the gate and enjoy.
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BTW, that RS runs the same dinky chihuahua head sized IHI turbo that came on 80s turbo Subarus, or on jagojon3's car. It has a wierdfuck 5 bolt flange, but you can swap the turbine housings directly over or you can use the Subaru housing as the turbine entry and the Scooby 3-bolt pattern perfectly aligns things.
If it were mine I'd put a WRX turbo on it out of the gate and enjoy.
ej205 or ej255?
I would imagine the smaller turbo would work better since it's a 1.6 liter with almost an economy flowing head. EJ205 = TD04L-13g?
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Got an email with pics of the rust. Living in the NW I haven't dealt with rust... is this fixable, or worth making an offer? (sorry for the size, can't resize at work)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomemadeturbo.net%2Fupload%2Findex.php%2Ffiles%2Fget%2F9MOi28hJqU%2Fimpulse-rs-rust1&hash=837c90ca17f2897ab1c6b74c7de72aa2a1f93d74)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomemadeturbo.net%2Fupload%2Findex.php%2Ffiles%2Fget%2FjrZI19S0FE%2Fimpulse-rs-rust2&hash=97c2f8ad96aae6f1ec30025e8896b753ef5cdad5)
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The car is fixable, but rust is always three times worse than it apprears.
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The car is fixable, but rust is always three times worse than it apprears.
qft!
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living in indiana and dealing with rust nearly all of my life, I would not even consider fixing that.
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The guy emailed me and said he got a quote of $700 to fix the rust.
Using that info, I sent him the following email (offering $750 vs his $1800 asking price):
"I don't know if you're willing to negotiate, but Blue Book has this car valued at $1,300 in excellent condition. I think the car can actually sell for more like $1,500 in excellent condition. Using that as a starting point and considering the cost of repairs ($700 for rust + about $100 for a rebuilt/junkyard turbo), I would be willing to offer $750.
Based on those calculations and the Blue Book "fair" condition guideline I believe this is a reasonable offer. It's possible the car may be worth more to someone else that can live with the rust, but I would need to get it fixed."
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KBB private party "fair" condition says $770, so I think it's pretty reasonable.
We'll see.
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That drivetrain bolts into everything, from Geo Storms to Isuzu I-Marks. If the body is shitcanned, which based on my british sportscar experience it is not, you have options.