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General Category => Hybrid/Tech => Topic started by: walter on August 10, 2009, 02:49:40 PM
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hi, i got my DOHC ZC block damaged beacuse it had some helicois shits and here there is a repair shop that can repair it but the solution they give me, doesnt like to me so much so i was wondering if i can fit a SOHC D16A6 block and use the log manifold and made for my DOHC ZC, i dont wanna waste more money making another log manifold for this engine, and i can't get any DOCH ZC block to good price so far.
let me know guys!
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it will bolt fine. its the intake manifold thats different
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Wally, you might have to modify your downpipe. I don't see why the log wouldn't fit though.
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it will bolt fine. its the intake manifold thats different
cool, ill try to get D16A6 engine + head , another question, what about OBD1 conversion? i converted my DOHC ZC to OBD1 , do i can use TD43U dizzy with A6 head for convert it to OBD1 too?
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you need a dist off a d15b7 motor for d16a6 obd1 conversion
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you need a dist off a d15b7 motor for d16a6 obd1 conversion
good info.
Thx , ill try to get this days engine and dizzy.
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btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?
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btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?
yep
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btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?
yep
what about motor mounts? im sorry, i can do everything on cars really but i havent a lot of tech info ;D
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use all your stock cable mounts in the car now
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got de engine, ill disamble it and stock build it , but i need D15B7 dizzy right now :-\
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uhm, I don't think all the headbolts are gonna line up.....but what do I know.
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walter if you need a ZC block in great shape i still have mine..
problem is shipping brother, but i got a D16A6 complete engine already :-\, fixing my ZC block cost like 150€ (214$USD) and i got D16A6 engine for 200$ :noel: ill rebuild it stock one but i would like to convert it to OBD1 , ill get soon D15B7 dizzy but im not sure if engine can run good with P28 chipped ecu.
I made a thread in EM..
thanks anyway
P.D HOw much for shipping and enigine? ???
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shipping would be insane well over 300 just for a bare block
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i know Crhis, look what pm i got ago some minutes, lol
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i see you are in spain
i can do $60 USD shipped.
90 hatch
stock b18b1, b16 lsd trans, holset h1c
11.75@114.75mph, 1.76 60 foot. 14psi - retired
forged ls vtec, 8.6:1 comp, 01 itr cams, holset h1c cranked. hoping for 10s or spun bearings.
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You cant even send an engine block 500 miles without it being over 60 dollars
I shipped an intake manifold which weighs 12 pounds to england priority mail only way you can ship now no more boat service and it was almost 75 bucks for 12 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Walter just rebuild it with vitaras. You will be able to make big power on pump!
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You cant even send an engine block 500 miles without it being over 60 dollars
I shipped an intake manifold which weighs 12 pounds to england priority mail only way you can ship now no more boat service and it was almost 75 bucks for 12 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow that's expensive! ive order a lot of parts from there and for Turbo manifold SR20DET postages and feess were 54.61 priority mail ..
c0mpl3x , ZIP 28029 Madrid - Spain.
crxvtec91 , i'd like boost it to Stock, after it blow, rebuild with vitara and FJT rods or scat ones maybe
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LOL, thx anyway bro :yes:
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i havent garage and ill rebuild it in my bedroom :evil:
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg237.imageshack.us%2Fimg237%2F5563%2Fdscf6467d.jpg&hash=17cb4b426ef02eb44869b0b1ec18409c2c945778)
ready to rebuild
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg169.imageshack.us%2Fimg169%2F1204%2Fdscf6471.jpg&hash=20e7b2ef0e6081a8fdb0fccc87a9de2064d0cb94)
D16A6 (SOHC ZC) piston vs D16A9 (DOHC ZC) piston
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg25.imageshack.us%2Fimg25%2F645%2Fdscf6468o.jpg&hash=8380a8b0d6d1ff479aade8649b43b193fbbfa851)
ill check for all clearances and will install everything again.
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I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.
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I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.
i think all he wanted to know was if his log mani and tranny thats on his current blown ZC with fit on an A6.
the answer is yes...for everything but the intake manifold.
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yes, that's what i meant, well o assembly everything excep head that ill replace valve seats and clean it a bit too, i measured rod and journal bearings with gauge, what i dont udnerstand is in the plastigage big size is more narrow than little sizes i means 0.025mm is more wide than 0.075mm.. and in haynes manual says for instance standar sizes : 0.024 to 0.042mm , like 0.042 is more wide.. idk if u understand what i means :mexi:
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i know it but i means.
0.01 < 0.03 , right?
why 0.01 is widest than 0.03 if 0.03 is bigger?
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i know it but i means.
0.01 < 0.03 , right?
why 0.01 is widest than 0.03 if 0.03 is bigger?
if im reading this right, its cause .01 is less clearance, therefore it smashes the plastigage more and makes it wider, as opposed to the .03 which had more clearance and smashes it down less. like if you were to hammer a piece of copper or something soft, the more you hammer it, the thinner it becomes, and the wider it becomes, because the material has to go somewhere...
does that help?
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Here's something anyone can grasp - take a big fucking hammer, smash your finger. With less clearance between the floor and the hammer head, your finger must get wider.
IMO there's too much shittalking about the dohc zc head + regular d16 block hybrid to make much sense. However this link sound like it is doable: http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1079426 (http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1079426) The problem is the rpr link I found, saying the newer blocks shift the head sideways: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33980&pid=346411&mode=threaded&show=&st=#entry346411 (http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33980&pid=346411&mode=threaded&show=&st=#entry346411)
However...an A6 or Z6 head will be a better option if possible from a power standpoint. I've never seen ZC dynos that proved it was worth the trouble. Add a cheap zex/delta cam or regrind, and you're lightyears ahead.
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good example! thx :D
abuot head, yes, ill run with A6 head so far, if i get a cheap Z6 ill run with it for vtec , anyway next month ill get exospeed cam for A6... ill try to clean, replace valve seal this week and will install everything, what ill need right now is PM6 for chipping, because i dont get D15B dizzy and looks a big difficult for runing with good map on P30 base turbo.. thx dudes!
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I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.
i think all he wanted to know was if his log mani and tranny thats on his current blown ZC with fit on an A6.
the answer is yes...for everything but the intake manifold.
Here is a picture of the OEM gasket on a D16A1 head (same as DOHC ZC)
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi99.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl290%2Fklyph333%2FDSC01486.jpg&hash=213dae0a2a798f57805d3f639990daca1e6bc278)
This is a SOHC D16 gasket on the same head
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi99.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl290%2Fklyph333%2FDSC01485.jpg&hash=8eb6da7394e00525f18170450c9c51b5160dadd6)
You will have the reverse of this problem and your ports will not line up exactly. This can probably be remedied with a die grinder and work just fine, but they will not line up exactly.
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thx for pics but i know differences, i have here D16 SOHC mild steel flange and D16A6 SOHC flange in mild steel too, i will not have any problem installing DOHC ZC log mani i made in A6 head..
like i said. thx ;)
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I don't think you need to put a new flange on your log. You can probably slot the holes and slide the log manifold down a bit.
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LOL! nobody understand me! :-\
i made a log manifold for my DOHC ZC i had, and right now, i KNOW already it will fit good with my D16A6 head.. i said before i know difference because i have two head flanges of SOHC VTEC head and SOHC D16A6 but anyway, thank you for pics and help.
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trying to see what cam i can get, was looking exospeed but they dont reply my mail, delta looks i have to send them my camshaft (I live in Spain), and Zex havent for D16A6 :?:
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hi, i got my DOHC ZC block damaged beacuse it had some helicois shits and here there is a repair shop that can repair it but the solution they give me, doesnt like to me so much
OK, I'm calling bullshit to this whole thread. Everybody likes Walter.
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trying to see what cam i can get, was looking exospeed but they dont reply my mail, delta looks i have to send them my camshaft (I live in Spain), and Zex havent for D16A6 :?:
Bisi, he doesn't mind shipping worldwide....just $$$$ you pay for it :)
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The insane amount of fraud from europe has made most sellers not want to send to europe anymore.
Delta is cheap but there sure has hell not going to send shit to europe. Actually if someone does you should be very thankful
usps fuckin sucks going overseas too
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where do i can find Delta cams? everyday USA Shops ship parts to Europe with not problems..
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http://deltacam.com/ (http://deltacam.com/)
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i like my Delta :)
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where do i can find Delta cams? everyday USA Shops ship parts to Europe with not problems..
Tell that to all the people I do business with who no longer even think about sending there
I know of 1 that does. To many people have gotten ripped off from europe/canada to want to deal with it anymore. not to mention you guys bitch about exchange rates all the time
I use to ship to europe alot but after the lack of accurate tracking you can claim all day long you never got parts
Walter in reality you could order 5000 dollars worth of stuff half of the tracking wont work and you can get the rest for free if you file claims. hence why so few do it. Those who have been doing this long enough know that EUROPE=trouble
Walter your english is better but your still retarded
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Chris being mean to walter is like kicking a puppy.
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I like kicking puppies
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where do i can find Delta cams? everyday USA Shops ship parts to Europe with not problems..
Tell that to all the people I do business with who no longer even think about sending there
I know of 1 that does. To many people have gotten ripped off from europe/canada to want to deal with it anymore. not to mention you guys bitch about exchange rates all the time
I use to ship to europe alot but after the lack of accurate tracking you can claim all day long you never got parts
Walter in reality you could order 5000 dollars worth of stuff half of the tracking wont work and you can get the rest for free if you file claims. hence why so few do it. Those who have been doing this long enough know that EUROPE=trouble
Walter your english is better but your still retarded
wtf? well , there are good buyers and good sellers in the world.. i know where to buy my shit in USA.. and viceversa... abuot retarded, i will not tell you what ppl say about you :yes: but you looks a not bad guy how can deal in the furure yet.. :D