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Title: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: malichite on August 30, 2009, 01:08:19 PM
I was working on a downpipe for RatCityRex yesterday and no matter how much cleaning I did I could not keep the shit from getting contaminated.  Is there anyway around this?  I would clean it with MEK, hit it with the red conditioning pads on my die grinder, reclean with MEK still got nasty.  What do you guys do to get the shit clean?

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Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: patsmx5 on August 30, 2009, 01:43:02 PM
I grind the pipes down to get the aluminized shit off, then weld it. Works great. Doesn't look like you got it all off to me.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: CSaddict on August 31, 2009, 06:33:28 AM
I usually use green cookie wheels to grind it all the way through. You will also need to go further back than you think.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: weirtech on August 31, 2009, 07:55:41 AM
i don't weld it!  i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on August 31, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
i just take a red pad and go to town on it. you will see 2 shade of metal. one is just the coating getting polished up, you need to go deeper, then you will see the steel under the coating.

and like cs said go more then you think.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: dvst8r on August 31, 2009, 09:50:43 AM
i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.

+1
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: t_cel_t on August 31, 2009, 11:46:17 AM
dip it on meriatic acid, shit boils like crazy and lets off a bunch of fumes but its perfectly clean
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Toysrme on August 31, 2009, 05:41:20 PM
you likely contaminated the fuck out of the tungsten too. aluminuzed and galvanized can make you so ill youll consider death afew hours away. becareful welding it.

meriatic acid FTMFW. also great for cleaning concrete  :noel:
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: ApexSilver06MR on August 31, 2009, 09:28:38 PM
you likely contaminated the fuck out of the tungsten too. aluminuzed and galvanized can make you so ill youll consider death afew hours away. becareful welding it.

meriatic acid FTMFW. also great for cleaning concrete  :noel:

muratic acid


works great on drive ways
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Corey on September 01, 2009, 01:38:55 AM
youre not gonna get color out of aluminized steel. its going to look grey and shitty. only time ill tig that shit is if its something low stress that i can just rip a quick fuse pass on and i usually wear a mask and breath as little as possible.

glavanized can very well kill you, aluminized is not nearly as harmful. i wouldnt weld galvanized even with a mask outdoors. aluminized will give you a sore throat/cold symptoms/raging migraines. thats what i get anyways
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 01, 2009, 02:21:47 AM
that and putting 2 welds on a pipe won't kill you. unless your huffing the shit.

I just hold my breath and make a pass, then use the air hose to cool /blow away fumes. it works.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Teg2boo on September 01, 2009, 10:18:27 AM
Never had  health problem welding aluminized steel. Is it only with tig welding? I have like 2398723846 welds on my exaust...

I weld outside tho...
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: toyolla86 on September 01, 2009, 11:05:39 AM
i think lye and murriatic acid are the same thing
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: t_cel_t on September 01, 2009, 11:43:17 AM
i think lye and murriatic acid are the same thing
no lye is potassium hydroxide, KOH a base-dont get this in your eyes
muriatic acid is and acid, im pretty sure Hydrocloric HCl-you get this in your eyes, wash it out quick and you will prob be ok

dont worry about acid, worry about bases.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: ratcityrex on September 01, 2009, 12:08:08 PM
Still turned out tits!!!
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: malichite on September 01, 2009, 07:30:59 PM
I'm gonna try go to town with a real grinder tonight on it and see how it comes out.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: toyolla86 on September 01, 2009, 07:50:38 PM
i think lye and murriatic acid are the same thing
no lye is potassium hydroxide, KOH a base-dont get this in your eyes
muriatic acid is and acid, im pretty sure Hydrocloric HCl-you get this in your eyes, wash it out quick and you will prob be ok

dont worry about acid, worry about bases.

nice to know. i was mis-informed.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Conceptz-X on September 01, 2009, 07:51:19 PM
Quote
quote author: weirtech
i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.
just making sure everybody saw this and who wrote it...
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: toyolla86 on September 01, 2009, 10:58:05 PM
hahaha
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Corey on September 02, 2009, 01:01:32 AM
Quote
quote author: weirtech
i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.
just making sure everybody saw this and who wrote it...

i dont see the point?
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 02, 2009, 03:38:27 AM
well i just welded up about 10 pie cuts into a 180*bend tonight. i hate grinding that coating off. smelled the shop up too.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: AfroIntegra on September 02, 2009, 06:52:44 AM
Aluminized FTL. I had to weld up an adapter to this cherry bomb for this kid in class today. It was definitely pretty unhetero
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: HiProfile on September 03, 2009, 10:11:55 PM
Quote
quote author: weirtech
i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.
just making sure everybody saw this and who wrote it...

i dont see the point?


It's rhmt's imitation of HT's nutswinging. Everyone know's weir is one of the local dieties. :noel:


I don't mind mig'ing aluminized for exhausts. It lasts a lot longer than mild steel. Welds are all that rust, and easy enough to clean occationally. 409 or 304 will be better rust-free shit, if you can payu for it.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: mandrel-bends on September 03, 2009, 10:28:20 PM
Aluminized is not toxic to weld.

You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.

The coating is designed to be welded through directly.

Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.

You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
 

Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Corey on September 03, 2009, 11:40:21 PM
Aluminized is not toxic to weld.

You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.

The coating is designed to be welded through directly.

Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.

You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
 



if by toxic you mean fatal then idk but i can gaurantee the fumes from welding can make you sick. ive experienced it personally
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Toysrme on September 03, 2009, 11:47:56 PM
Aluminized is not toxic to weld.
wrong
You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.
wrong
The coating is designed to be welded through directly.
wrong
Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.
wrong, not an answerable question on the based information
You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
you're a damned idiot 
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: 88dx on September 03, 2009, 11:54:21 PM
Aluminized is not toxic to weld.
wrong
You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.
wrong
The coating is designed to be welded through directly.
wrong
Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.
wrong, not an answerable question on the based information
You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
you're a damned idiot 


STFU Mr. Know it all that sucks balls at welding
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 04, 2009, 03:14:22 AM
Aluminized is not toxic to weld.
wrong
You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.
wrong
The coating is designed to be welded through directly.
wrong
Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.
wrong, not an answerable question on the based information
You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
you're a damned idiot 

Toys you know what you are a fucking idiot.... i have personally got color out of welds on mild steel and aluminized. it is all in the technique like stated by crmb.

And only thing i have noticed is that when tig welding aluminized it burns the edges and becomes flaky where you welded, a wire brush and that is gone. and also the occasional dirt in the welds.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: mandrel-bends on September 04, 2009, 01:40:03 PM
Corey,
I was pointing out that the specific material in question isn't any more toxic the standard mild steel (atleast according to the material spec sheets). I would agree you should probably not be directly breathing in welding fumes regardless of the material being processed.
Adam

Quote

if by toxic you mean fatal then idk but i can gaurantee the fumes from welding can make you sick. ive experienced it personally
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: mandrel-bends on September 04, 2009, 01:43:12 PM
Who are you, to correct me? Sit down.

Aluminized is not toxic to weld.
wrong
You don't need to prep the surface beyond basic cleaning.
wrong
The coating is designed to be welded through directly.
wrong
Don't wire brush it off around the welds or you would have been better off getting mild.
wrong, not an answerable question on the based information
You can get some color in aluminized, but it's more technique then anything else.
you're a damned idiot 
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 04, 2009, 06:34:28 PM
complex go away... O0
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Conceptz-X on September 05, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Quote
quote author: weirtech
i hate tig'n that shit.  i just mig it.
just making sure everybody saw this and who wrote it...

i dont see the point?

just saying why fucking tig it?  mig will be faster and not have contamination issues
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 05, 2009, 01:23:44 PM
In me experience i can sometime tig cargo piping faster then mig. no filler just running around the tubes.

But i hate mig welding.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Conceptz-X on September 05, 2009, 04:07:38 PM
I dont like MIG either, but in some instances, such as a coated plated pipe, it saves time and comes out better
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Corey on September 06, 2009, 03:05:02 AM
you would have to suck some serious balls to be able to have a mig weld come out better then tig weld.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Toysrme on September 07, 2009, 03:46:05 AM
turboD go jackoff in the god damned corner and dont stop until you happen across an epiphany
"gettin color" in your welds for color's sake is fucking retarded. so take your "mad colorz" on your tig welded aluminized steel and die grind the sharts out of your blood stained asshole.

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Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: malichite on September 07, 2009, 11:35:44 AM
In me experience i can sometime tig cargo piping faster then mig. no filler just running around the tubes.

But i hate mig welding.

x2

If you can't get around the pipe fast you need more practice nig nog.
Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Conceptz-X on September 07, 2009, 05:27:53 PM
you would have to suck some serious balls to be able to have a mig weld come out better then tig weld.
When your dealing with possible contamination...

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Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: turbob16hatch on September 07, 2009, 09:07:39 PM
turboD go jackoff in the god damned corner and dont stop until you happen across an epiphany
"gettin color" in your welds for color's sake is fucking retarded. so take your "mad colorz" on your tig welded aluminized steel and die grind the sharts out of your blood stained asshole.

Listen here fuck stain, when you use 308 or even er70s rod, guess what happens when you pull the torch away from the weld before the post flow ends? fucking color to dumb fucker.

You seriously are a fucking idiot. I'm not about to waste argon getting perfect gas coverage on fucking aluminized steel. the fuck would be the purpose of that?

Go fuck up welding aluminum you faggot.

Title: Re: Tig Welding Aluminized
Post by: Corey on September 07, 2009, 11:38:46 PM
turboD go jackoff in the god damned corner and dont stop until you happen across an epiphany
"gettin color" in your welds for color's sake is fucking retarded. so take your "mad colorz" on your tig welded aluminized steel and die grind the sharts out of your blood stained asshole.

Listen here fuck stain, when you use 308 or even er70s rod, guess what happens when you pull the torch away from the weld before the post flow ends? fucking color to dumb fucker.

You seriously are a fucking idiot. I'm not about to waste argon getting perfect gas coverage on fucking aluminized steel. the fuck would be the purpose of that?

Go fuck up welding aluminum you faggot.



the only thing that faggot knows is welding theory. he has never showed ONE thing he built worth a fuck besides that joke of an intake manifold he built which i personally NEVER would have admitted building looking like that.

dont argue with him and he will go away. im suprised he hasnt realized everyone here thinks hes a joke.