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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: Whitey on October 01, 2009, 08:22:53 PM

Title: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 01, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
My car shifted like a fucking Accord so that had to change.  I ordered another shifter assembly (only $42.00) so I can keep the stock one in case I need waranty work since the car only has 2,400 miles.  Stock shift assembly:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2FDSC01498.jpg&hash=491fb1172ee0e922ee9f48e19ac5a1ccd3eb3acb)

Gutted:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2FDSC01499.jpg&hash=6c94a0b04ce4744482fbcb985f6a1a56fedb7e87)

Sawed, drilled and tapped:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2F0930091933.jpg&hash=217361aeac6d4466a698367c0b331858c2b91c01)

Nice and machined:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2F0930092057.jpg&hash=d933ed8619c693042f3793598d2d3d43c03a505a)

Nice and welded:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2FDSC01500.jpg&hash=064efda225a46d95247f4e636d3cd3614d7732d2)

Trenched shift tower for clearance becuase cable hit the bottom:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2FDSC01503.jpg&hash=15fb8b63a00591ab7f497a59897b2bf38fa49bb5)

Finished product:

(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv450%2FHMTWhitey%2FAccord%2FDSC01442.jpg&hash=d867521ea82aaac5ed3cd05b457610eee825d723)




That is all.  Now take a step back and literally fuck your own face.


good-day.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: brine04 on October 01, 2009, 08:26:27 PM
I'm sorry but who are you?  :P
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 01, 2009, 08:40:03 PM
I'm sorry but who are you?  :P

Your joking but I seriously have no idea who you are. 
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: brine04 on October 01, 2009, 08:56:51 PM
I'm sorry but who are you?  :P

Your joking but I seriously have no idea who you are. 
:'( I have always dreamed of us getting together and driving into the sunset towing banshees behind our sn95's. But you have crushed that dream.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 01, 2009, 09:23:15 PM
:'( I have always dreamed of us getting together and driving into the sunset towing banshees behind our sn95's. But you have crushed that dream.


Did you change your screen name?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: brine04 on October 01, 2009, 09:37:55 PM
:'( I have always dreamed of us getting together and driving into the sunset towing banshees behind our sn95's. But you have crushed that dream.


Did you change your screen name?
Yes  ;D turboEF9
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Ravage70 on October 02, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
thats short?
Was it rally tall to begin with?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Tim on October 02, 2009, 11:14:52 AM
thats short?
Was it rally tall to begin with?
he didn't change anything to the part of the shifter you see really.
He lengthened the part below the pivot so the throw of the shifter is shorter.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 02, 2009, 05:23:18 PM
thats short?
Was it rally tall to begin with?


Ricers chop shifter to bury the knob
Racers change pivot ratio's


The height of the shifter stays exactly the same but I cut the throw length in half down to 2 inches from first to second.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: caged on October 02, 2009, 05:27:56 PM
quality job there!!
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: t_cel_t on October 02, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
way too much work imo, all you got to do is put some washers around the bottom of the ball and loosely stick it in a vice and start pounding on the end with a mallet. check for clearance and your good to go, none of this $5,000,000 6axis bridgeport mill shit

i do it on toyota shifters all the time, cept they have a metal pivot ball that you just hit with a torch and then start pounding.that plastic ball probably moves super easy
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: onlyflash944 on October 03, 2009, 12:04:56 AM
mmmm bridgeport
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: HiProfile on October 03, 2009, 02:13:03 AM
I've done similar stuff to b/d shifters. Just cut & reweld farther away from the ball, and move backwards so the shifter is closer to your body. I'd have recommended welding at an angle to angle the lever it back as well, since all Hondas are designed for midgets who sit ahead of the shifter.

Funny how the person "whitey bends" were named for is now using all this baller shit. I'd bet that's all 321 stainless, welded with some dynasty 700. :mexi:
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 04, 2009, 11:58:14 AM
way too much work imo, all you got to do is put some washers around the bottom of the ball and loosely stick it in a vice and start pounding on the end with a mallet. check for clearance and your good to go, none of this $5,000,000 6axis bridgeport mill shit

i do it on toyota shifters all the time, cept they have a metal pivot ball that you just hit with a torch and then start pounding.that plastic ball probably moves super easy


Lol, Bridgeports are like $5,000.   I could have put it on a 9-Axis Okuma mill turn that is over a $1,000,000.   ;D  And I have no problem drilling a tapping a hole instead of taking a hammer to a piece of plastic and risk breaking it then I'm SOL.  And plus this way its adjustable.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 04, 2009, 04:36:32 PM
That is a strange looking slitting saw arbor. Also, strange mill, I can't see the ways on the machine?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: onlyflash944 on October 04, 2009, 04:42:19 PM
And I have no problem drilling a tapping a hole instead of taking a hammer to a piece of plastic and risk breaking it

isn't this the deffinition of why jb weld was invented?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 04, 2009, 08:57:24 PM
That is a strange looking slitting saw arbor. Also, strange mill, I can't see the ways on the machine?

Lol, its a normal, run of the mill bridgeport.   ???


isn't this the deffinition of why jb weld was invented?


So I'll spend more time gluing broken pieces together instead of doing it the right way the first time.  :-\ Everything doesn't need to be nigger rigged...
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 04, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
That is a strange looking slitting saw arbor. Also, strange mill, I can't see the ways on the machine?

Lol, its a normal, run of the mill bridgeport.   ???



Ah right, bridgeports have the really weird knee/main casting design that while giving you tons of travel in the Z plane, doesn't allow for the spindle to get anywhere close to the table.  :?:
I was confused from your picture because you have both a riser plate and a long arbor which would on virtually all other machines have the knee sitting low enough to expose the Z axis ways.

Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 04, 2009, 10:09:50 PM
Ah right, bridgeports have the really weird knee/main casting design that while giving you tons of travel in the Z plane, doesn't allow for the spindle to get anywhere close to the table.  :?:
I was confused from your picture because you have both a riser plate and a long arbor which would on virtually all other machines have the knee sitting low enough to expose the Z axis ways.




That casting can be removed and you can mill right through the table if you want.   ;)  Fixturing for this was a pain in the ass becuase of the bending of the shifter so I could just put it on V blocks and go to town.  So I bolted two 90 plates together, put the shifter through the hole of the plate.  And I used the long arbor becuase that was the first one I found.   :-\
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 04, 2009, 10:20:12 PM
So that portion of the casting is just a riser block?

Last time I ran a real bridgeport was at least 7-8 years ago, run many of the other style universal mills but never recall seeing one with riser block for the column, the excello I have here doesn't either. Its funny with the bridgeport brand being the most popular for those style of mills I haven't even come across one since I used when way back than, just about all of my friends are in manufacturing and no one seems to have one, I wonder if they weren't quite as popular in Canada, I remember seeing more bridgeport brand mills when I lived in the states.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 04, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
So that portion of the casting is just a riser block?

Last time I ran a real bridgeport was at least 7-8 years ago, run many of the other style universal mills but never recall seeing one with riser block for the column, the excello I have here doesn't either. Its funny with the bridgeport brand being the most popular for those style of mills I haven't even come across one since I used when way back than, just about all of my friends are in manufacturing and no one seems to have one, I wonder if they weren't quite as popular in Canada, I remember seeing more bridgeport brand mills when I lived in the states.


Yeah its just the riser block.  We have about 10 of these Bridgeports in house. 
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 04, 2009, 10:58:43 PM
So that portion of the casting is just a riser block?

Last time I ran a real bridgeport was at least 7-8 years ago, run many of the other style universal mills but never recall seeing one with riser block for the column, the excello I have here doesn't either. Its funny with the bridgeport brand being the most popular for those style of mills I haven't even come across one since I used when way back than, just about all of my friends are in manufacturing and no one seems to have one, I wonder if they weren't quite as popular in Canada, I remember seeing more bridgeport brand mills when I lived in the states.


Yeah its just the riser block.  We have about 10 of these Bridgeports in house. 

What do you guys make there? I assume with an Okuma Mill/Turn you are manufacturing your own product? Or do you do any jobbing as well?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 05, 2009, 05:33:07 PM
What do you guys make there? I assume with an Okuma Mill/Turn you are manufacturing your own product? Or do you do any jobbing as well?


Seal housings, mainly for jet engines.  Circumferential seals, face seals and all other shit. We design, manufacture and test everything in house.  So yeah we manufacture our own products as well as others, but we're not a job shop. 

We work with some nasty materials and hold some insane tolerances  We even have a whole department set up for just machining carbon.  We probably have about 100 Okuma's in house...VTM's, Multus, Macturn's and everything in the middle.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 06, 2009, 10:38:06 AM
Geez, I didn't realize your shop was that big, definitely a bit large for jobbing, lol.
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 06, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Geez, I didn't realize your shop was that big, definitely a bit large for jobbing, lol.


I used to work at a job shop with 2 Flow waterjets (3 and 5-axis) 3 HAAS mills (VF-4, VF-6 SS and a hoizontal...forget which one exactly now) and a Flow 5-axis router.  Thats back when I used to do CNC programming
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Passenger on October 06, 2009, 05:21:39 PM
Geez, I didn't realize your shop was that big, definitely a bit large for jobbing, lol.


I used to work at a job shop with 2 Flow waterjets (3 and 5-axis) 3 HAAS mills (VF-4, VF-6 SS and a hoizontal...forget which one exactly now) and a Flow 5-axis router.  Thats back when I used to do CNC programming

Yeah that is definitely the scale I am more familiar with. So you just do drawings/design/engineering now?
Title: Re: 09' Accord Short Shifter
Post by: Whitey on October 06, 2009, 05:29:33 PM
Yeah that is definitely the scale I am more familiar with. So you just do drawings/design/engineering now?


I also build and fabricate the machines I design from control wiring to machining components.  The only programming I do now is on PLC programs for one off machines.  I definitely like it better then running toolpaths all day.   At my company now the supervisors are the CNC programmers.  I guess its the best way to avoid all the fingerpointing when a tool gets buried in a subspindle  :-\