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Title: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 06, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
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Supposedly will cost around 20k, light, 2.0l subie boxer, and RWD.

I think Toyota would sell a shitton.

Concept interior looks like shit.

I would buy.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Kenny Rogers on October 06, 2009, 10:52:28 AM
You'd figure Toyota would put one of their own engines in it.  I would like to see it in action... I don't think I've seen a subie engine with a RWD setup.

Ass end kinda looks like a Chrysler Crossfire + BMW
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 06, 2009, 10:57:42 AM
Kinda makes me think of a modern RX-7 rear with it going across the top there.

Subaru is making their own version from the same chassis/drivetrain, just won't be sold here.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 06, 2009, 11:04:50 AM
Disinterest.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
Well, there goes Toyota's reliability ratings.  :P
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 92CXyD on October 06, 2009, 11:25:19 AM
I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2009, 11:40:50 AM
I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.

That explains why toyotas have sucked ass for the last few years.

The camry has never been on the highest stair for reliablilty.  I reference the 5S-FE.  Rod knock at 125k miles like fucking clockwork for about 1 in 4 of those bastards. More than likely poorly maintained, but non-the-less, its there.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 97Econobox on October 06, 2009, 11:53:36 AM
looks like toyotas version of a 350z.

Meh i cant say id fucks with it.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Teg2boo on October 06, 2009, 01:15:02 PM
Looks like a 350z, RX-8, mazda3 and BMW mix.

Looks good to me  ;D
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 98redcavz24 on October 06, 2009, 01:30:39 PM
Why do all new "performance" cars resemble a 350z/crossfire/genesis. Gay
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: patsmx5 on October 06, 2009, 01:30:55 PM
light
I doubt it will be that light. And subaru engine = :(
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 06, 2009, 01:35:53 PM
light
I doubt it will be that light. And subaru engine = :(

Definitely not CRX light, but compared to the other shit on the road it could be pretty light.  According to its wheelbase, it's pretty damn small.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: marcj on October 06, 2009, 01:48:37 PM
I'm not impressed.. as others have stated; looks like a 350z/G35.
also, outsourcing the engine = fail
troublesome maintenance of boxster = fail
that sums up to no positive outcome.

why not try to reinvent the oldschool 1970 celica into a performance car, like GM and Ford are doing with their classics.
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Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: t_cel_t on October 06, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
needs a turbo beams
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2009, 02:32:12 PM
needs a turbo beams so it can crack crankshafts and spin rod bearings instead of cracking pistions

Fixed it for you. I dont like toyota S series engines. They are sub-par to their competition.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 06, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Its missing as blue dash to complete the fail
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 92CXyD on October 06, 2009, 03:59:24 PM
needs a turbo beams so it can crack crankshafts and spin rod bearings instead of cracking pistions

Fixed it for you. I dont like toyota S series engines. They are sub-par to their competition.

Agree that is why I always liked the A-series motors more. :yes:

Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Adam Lofton on October 06, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
Disinterest.

Agreed.

Looks like a riced out Celica with a Prius raped 350z rear.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: AstroVannin on October 06, 2009, 04:21:53 PM
.

why not try to reinvent the oldschool 1970 celica into a performance car, like GM and Ford are doing with their classics.
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This
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 06, 2009, 06:04:42 PM
why not try to reinvent the oldschool 1970 celica into a performance car, like GM and Ford are doing with their classics.
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Interest.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Sinister on October 06, 2009, 06:12:22 PM
The title sounds like something a japanese guy would name his dog. lol

I like the looks of it, but if it goes into production i guess we'll see how much of this hate is justified
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: random-strike on October 06, 2009, 07:22:57 PM
doesn't look too bad, i doubt the 20k price figure though
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: t_cel_t on October 06, 2009, 07:47:21 PM
ok actually it needs an ''8a-gte'' its a 2.2L turbo, the rest is self explanatory
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Patrick on October 06, 2009, 07:56:35 PM
I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.

That explains why toyotas have sucked ass for the last few years.

The camry has never been on the highest stair for reliablilty.  I reference the 5S-FE.  Rod knock at 125k miles like fucking clockwork for about 1 in 4 of those bastards. More than likely poorly maintained, but non-the-less, its there.

really havent dont one yet/scene one yet, been working for 6 years at the largest dealership on the east coast of snowland downward of montreal, but then again that motor hassent been produced in 8 years so hardly a few years ago..... i have however found that alot of times a timing belt can cause a flutter against the timing cover to resemble a motor knock sound in which a shop will recomend a motor when not needed, but hey its a gravy flat rate job so more wrong diag the better for me
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 06, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.

That explains why toyotas have sucked ass for the last few years.

The camry has never been on the highest stair for reliablilty.  I reference the 5S-FE.  Rod knock at 125k miles like fucking clockwork for about 1 in 4 of those bastards. More than likely poorly maintained, but non-the-less, its there.

really havent dont one yet/scene one yet, been working for 6 years at the largest dealership on the east coast of snowland downward of montreal, but then again that motor hassent been produced in 8 years so hardly a few years ago..... i have however found that alot of times a timing belt can cause a flutter against the timing cover to resemble a motor knock sound in which a shop will recomend a motor when not needed, but hey its a gravy flat rate job so more wrong diag the better for me

At 15K miles year average mileage, that makes a typical 125K mile motor eight years old.  You ever notice how 90% of your cars stop showing up after warranty because dealerships fuck people on service work??  Yup, that's right, you know jack shit.

Go make your n00b post, I have $5 that says it fails and you tuck your tail and go back to performing a lot of oilchanges without the lip service.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: marcj on October 06, 2009, 08:17:25 PM
Ohhhhh! BURN
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.

That explains why toyotas have sucked ass for the last few years.

The camry has never been on the highest stair for reliablilty.  I reference the 5S-FE.  Rod knock at 125k miles like fucking clockwork for about 1 in 4 of those bastards. More than likely poorly maintained, but non-the-less, its there.

really havent dont one yet/scene one yet, been working for 6 years at the largest dealership on the east coast of snowland downward of montreal, but then again that motor hassent been produced in 8 years so hardly a few years ago..... i have however found that alot of times a timing belt can cause a flutter against the timing cover to resemble a motor knock sound in which a shop will recomend a motor when not needed, but hey its a gravy flat rate job so more wrong diag the better for me


Sir, the oiling/clearance problems with the later 5S are well known.  The earlier blocks are not anywhere near as susceptible, but it still happens.

Take an engine with a piss poor oil system to start with, add a pair of balance shafts beneath the crank, combined with owners' lack of maintenance and the high oil change intervals subjected to the OEM by the government, and toss in the generally shitty quality of oil today = Recipe for disaster.

You are also in Canada, where cars actually need 5w-30 oil for colder climates, as opposed to south of the mason/dixon where everyone should be running at least 10w-30, but dont because of what it says on the fill cap.

Case in point, 5S= Junk. 
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 06, 2009, 08:34:48 PM
Needs turbo 3sgte

Apathy.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 06, 2009, 09:21:09 PM
Needs turbo 3sgte

Meh. Put its guts on the table next to a six-bolt 4g63 and prepare to laugh. 

Toyota seemed to over-build their performance transmissions, but skimped out a bit on SOMETHING in all their motors that dont have JZ in the engine code. 
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Conceptz-X on October 06, 2009, 09:54:34 PM
Bring back the 4age 20v with aluminum block and cross bolted mains.  That would be sweet
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: rawr on October 06, 2009, 10:27:47 PM
the Yamaha motors weren't much better than anything suby makes.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 06, 2009, 11:44:10 PM
yes, yes they are
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Doug on October 06, 2009, 11:46:29 PM
Has too many sharp and jagged edges, I prefer cars that flow, but not as bad as half the other crap they make today
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: E-b0la on October 06, 2009, 11:55:59 PM
I hate to admit toyota is starting to slip.

I mean The reason I own a toyota is because I don't want anything else. I don't want a fucking stupidru engine in my toyota.

smooth the body, and get rid of the stupid creases and jagged edges, put an inline 6 with a turbo (or 2) and a 6 spd trans, and it would sell.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Doug on October 07, 2009, 12:00:59 AM
I hate to admit toyota is starting to slip.

I mean The reason I own a toyota is because I don't want anything else. I don't want a fucking stupidru engine in my toyota.

smooth the body, and get rid of the stupid creases and jagged edges, put an inline 6 with a turbo (or 2) and a 6 spd trans, and it would sell.

And change the name to oh...I don't know...Supra sounds about right
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: E-b0la on October 07, 2009, 12:03:27 AM
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Is it just me or do the seats look fucking stupid and uncomfortable?

Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Doug on October 07, 2009, 12:04:24 AM


Is it just me or do the seats look fucking stupid and uncomfortable?



Reminds me something out of the death star from Star Wars
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Teg2boo on October 07, 2009, 12:07:19 AM
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Is it just me or do the seats look fucking stupid and uncomfortable?



Its only a concept, it has to be good looking, not comfortable ;)
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Doug on October 07, 2009, 12:09:18 AM


Is it just me or do the seats look fucking stupid and uncomfortable?



Its only a concept, it has to be good looking, not comfortable ;)

You consider that good looking?
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 07, 2009, 12:41:23 AM
the Yamaha motors weren't much better than anything suby makes.

I'm going to disagree with you there.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 07, 2009, 02:16:39 AM
IF it goes into production, I doubt the exterior will change too much.

The interior is obviously concept crap that will be a lot different if its built.

Has nobody seen concept cars before?

They always have off-the-wall shit.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Adam Lofton on October 07, 2009, 05:21:06 AM
Fine... needs 2 jay-z's


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Had to do it.  ;)
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Teg2boo on October 07, 2009, 07:21:20 AM


Is it just me or do the seats look fucking stupid and uncomfortable?



Its only a concept, it has to be good looking, not comfortable ;)


You consider that good looking?

No, but for the dreaming customer that see it in magazine, it might look good.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 92CXyD on October 07, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
the Yamaha motors weren't much better than anything suby makes.

I'm going to disagree with you there.

I agree with JD Yamaha designed motors for Toyota were the best.
Except 2zzge motor the valvetrain was to fragile when push to high revs. :?:
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 07, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
the Yamaha motors weren't much better than anything suby makes.

I'm going to disagree with you there.

I agree with JD Yamaha designed motors for Toyota were the best.

I'm going to disagree with you there.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Teg2boo on October 07, 2009, 09:39:43 AM
Is the double negative makes the first statement true?
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 07, 2009, 10:04:49 AM
the Yamaha motors weren't much better than anything suby makes.

I'm going to disagree with you there.

I agree with JD Yamaha designed motors for Toyota were the best.

I'm going to disagree with you there.

This is a lie. 
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Joseph Davis on October 07, 2009, 10:11:40 AM
Is the double negative makes the first statement true?

No.

I generally like the Yammy designed motors, and rank them way above Scoobarus, I just don't think they are "the best."
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: rawr on October 07, 2009, 10:34:31 AM
maybe I just had a fluke yama motor but mine died at 50k and it wasn't one of those jdm units either. :( 

my gaydeem yama motor is a "40k" motor and burns oil like a motherfucker but looked alright when I threw it in.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Phate on October 07, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
doesn't look too terrible.  Only good things i can think of about it having a subie motor is that you can drop in an EZ30R (the subie H6) and chop the pipes to sound like a pissed off 911, and also that it means you have a wide engine bay if you do put something else in.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Robb on October 07, 2009, 03:43:15 PM
Im gonna say it before anybody else does.


LSX swap. Boo ya.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: t_cel_t on October 07, 2009, 03:58:36 PM
why dont they just bring back the supra, are they that fucking stupid?
also the ae86 as well
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 07, 2009, 04:07:24 PM
why dont they just bring back the supra, are they that fucking stupid?
also the ae86 as well

Maybe you didn't notice, but this is their "replacement" ae86 :P

It's not quite the low-budget, simple AE86, but I guess if they meet their price goals (which I doubt), it will be close enough...

I think it's just wishful thinking to expect anything like the simple, lightweight CRXs and AE86s of the past...too many safety concerns and bullshit added on now.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: 92CXyD on October 07, 2009, 04:12:59 PM
I bet if if goes into production it comes with a 2ZZ-GE.. it may be the new Celica.

I hope not, the last Celica used the Corolla/Matrix platform = shitty suspension. :?:
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: t_cel_t on October 07, 2009, 04:14:32 PM
why dont they just bring back the supra, are they that fucking stupid?
also the ae86 as well

Maybe you didn't notice, but this is their "replacement" ae86 :P

It's not quite the low-budget, simple AE86, but I guess if they meet their price goals (which I doubt), it will be close enough...

I think it's just wishful thinking to expect anything like the simple, lightweight CRXs and AE86s of the past...too many safety concerns and bullshit added on now.
we should be free to buy tincan-rattletrap cars if we choose to do so. like sign a waiver stating we know this car is a tin coffin but we dont care.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 07, 2009, 04:33:58 PM
Yeah, I agree, but they look at what the market wants, and all these pussies want airbags and ass-warmers and power everything.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Patrick on October 07, 2009, 05:47:27 PM
actually look at my join date.... may be a n00b post count wise but definitly not time wise. Actully do work on alot of older models toyota/honda owners tend to be more dealer specific just tends to be their mentality owning one. "i bought the all mighty reliable toyota/honda gonna get it dealer serviced for life" My point really was not that they are great cars which they are not, but people always say they arnt as a good as they used to be which is bs, yea you hear more bad things about toyota's but in the past few years their are alot more of them on the road, problem to car ratio is proboly better then it ever was, hell look at the ol 22re's main bearing failures and t chain problems, headgaskets and the 3vze was another gem, 7mge had loads of problems too they all did. In the broad outlook though they always seemed to be somewhat better then the compeditors or equal to the better ones, but the new ones are no more worse then the older ones, give it a few years and who knows but definitly not yet.


I was wondering when this would happen.

Some of the Camrys are being assembled in Subaru factory in Indiana for the last 3 yrs. 
Toyota owns 16.5% of FHI. FHI part company of Subaru.

That explains why toyotas have sucked ass for the last few years.

The camry has never been on the highest stair for reliablilty.  I reference the 5S-FE.  Rod knock at 125k miles like fucking clockwork for about 1 in 4 of those bastards. More than likely poorly maintained, but non-the-less, its there.

really havent dont one yet/scene one yet, been working for 6 years at the largest dealership on the east coast of snowland downward of montreal, but then again that motor hassent been produced in 8 years so hardly a few years ago..... i have however found that alot of times a timing belt can cause a flutter against the timing cover to resemble a motor knock sound in which a shop will recomend a motor when not needed, but hey its a gravy flat rate job so more wrong diag the better for me

At 15K miles year average mileage, that makes a typical 125K mile motor eight years old.  You ever notice how 90% of your cars stop showing up after warranty because dealerships fuck people on service work??  Yup, that's right, you know jack shit.

Go make your n00b post, I have $5 that says it fails and you tuck your tail and go back to performing a lot of oilchanges without the lip service.
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Jorsher on October 07, 2009, 06:02:08 PM
I've owned a few hondas over 200k miles without any major failures...  headgaskets being the biggest pain in the ass, but that's somewhat a maintenance thing anyway.

Not sure if newer cars will go that long without a big repair.

They shove more shit into them now than they used to.  more shit = more chances for problems

Nobody really knows yet though, since few of them have 200k miles...

I still believe the older shit was built better :P
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: biscuit on October 07, 2009, 07:31:09 PM
Looks like the offspring of a Nissan 350z butt fucking a rx8...
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Conceptz-X on October 07, 2009, 09:44:13 PM
I bet if if goes into production it comes with a 2ZZ-GE.. it may be the new Celica.
2zz has been in service a few years now, I imagine there will be a new series of engine to replace it very soon. 
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: Patrick on October 07, 2009, 09:52:58 PM
already has been replaced with a 2AZ-FE a 2.4 camry engine unless the spyder dose/ever did come with it but we dont get those in canada so i donno

I bet if if goes into production it comes with a 2ZZ-GE.. it may be the new Celica.
2zz has been in service a few years now, I imagine there will be a new series of engine to replace it very soon. 
Title: Re: Toyobaru
Post by: speedjunky01 on October 07, 2009, 10:10:02 PM
def the new ae86

look at about 1:50 in this vid its racing one in gt5 :-P

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