:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: Teg2boo on October 07, 2009, 12:04:53 AM
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So I've started to mess up with "Standstill boost generator" aka antilag in Crome pro, but I'm not sure what to put in "Timing retard" and "Fuel enrichment".
I've read on google values from 1 to 16 degree and nothing about fuel.
I tried 6degree retard and 22 microseconds enrichment, but almost no boost was generated.
I think it need more enrichment, but before I blow up something I figure I'd ask what you use...
Thanks!
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pull more timing
I added about 7% fuel over what it was in the RPM range where antilag was set
play with it, with no load on the motor it is much less likely for it to blow up, mine was bouncing on antilag for a couple of minutes until i figured out what setting made the most boost lol
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Ok, I'll have to find a place where I can stay and make noise lol
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i did iit in autozone parking lot the mexicans were all like :mexi: mui bien
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lol
I'll do it at Canadian Tire, parking is hella big and no one will care...
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what about crome free? Dose it have the same settings? I havent looked into antilag to much yet. But oonce im boosted it will be a needed item!
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i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
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what about crome free? Dose it have the same settings? I havent looked into antilag to much yet. But oonce im boosted it will be a needed item!
crome free doesnt have it, however if you are vtec you can trick it into antilag
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=4216.0 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=4216.0)
look my write up over
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i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways :noel:
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i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways :noel:
how rich/lean is it suposed to be when poping on antilag?
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i usually start at -40 deg and 250 enrichment but know that you are tosting your exhaust valves turbing and exhaust manifold like marshmellows. the car should be tuned before antilag is set if your running a basemap with a 10afr enriching will only flood things worse.
i did -40* and 1400ms fuel, still lean but i rocked it anyways :noel:
how rich/lean is it suposed to be when poping on antilag?
hell if i know. it was bouncing all over the place from 9-15.
shitty video, broke the 3rd gear shift fork going into 3rd, couldnt get the fucker in. gotta turn the volume up a bit, sounds cool though
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv203%2Fryan89crx%2FVideos%2Fth_1287.jpg&hash=4eaf56f34c27bbf313ca5aac6f49cfb07c7b9275) (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v203/ryan89crx/Videos/?action=view¤t=1287.flv)
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with ectune, i used -40 timing, 12 fuel.
it built so much boost it would hit boost cut in less than 2 seconds. shit was crazy
dialing back the timing and lowering the antilag rpm helped keep the boost down on antilag.
i launch without antilag now and am starting to pull 1.6 60's consistently. unless u got 26inch slicks i wouldnt bother.
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I use 6 degrees staic retard in ectune and 120 fuel value... It makes JDM fags jump plug there ears and pee themselves a bit
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looking at my map im at -6* retard and 460ms fuel. . . hmmm might play with it a bit more and lean it out much more to see how it likes it
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i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW
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i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW
agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome
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i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW
agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome
I also noticed that when I was looking at videos on youtube. On a race car I guess its important, but on a daily driver crome do the job well I believe.
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i also notice that with ectune antilag works a hell of alot better compaired to crome. BDV ignition cut only at 3k launch control FTMFW
agreed ECTUNE compared to crome sounds and launches like absolute rape compared to crome
I also noticed that when I was looking at videos on youtube. On a race car I guess its important, but on a daily driver crome do the job well I believe.
ectune antilag scares the ricers and dubs away better, sounds like an AK going off lol
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Yeah, but I like it the sleeper way, like my car :yes:
ectune antilag sound fucking awesome tho! :noel:
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Timing is crude boost control, fuel is fine boost control. Or maybe it was the other way around? :mexi:
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did a bunch of reading, what kind of revlimiter are you using ign. or fuel or both?
i played with ectune today a bit (pure seks) and using ign. cut only i added 10fv and 35 retard
pops like CRAZY and has nice flame and instant <2 sec spool
from me messing around with it, if your using fuel cut you need to dump a binch more in, but of just ign. its already got enough gas just needs some retard is all
play with it and see how it works for you, GL
ill keep messing with it friday when i get some time and let you know
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I'm about to buy eCtune too. I haven't tried very hard, but I can't get Crome to build boost, even with very high value of timing and fuel. It builds maybe 1psi...
ECtune is supporting well Ostrich right? Not only Demon?
I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.
I just want to be sure that everything works before I buy it.
I can't choose the kind of revlimiter in Crome and I'm not sure what kind it is.
If I understand correctly, the ignition cut should be better because you continue to put gas in the cylinder, the gas goes out of the exhaust valve. Next step, ignition won't be cut but retarded and you put more fuel aka big back fire.
On the other hand cut with fuel, you'll need to put much more fuel and maybe more retard on the ignition to let the gas ignite in and out of the cylinder.
Let me know how well it works for you. Anyway I don't plan to play with it today...
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I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.
The free version of ectune is for people that are running ectune either a chip via authorized tuner, or their own licensed ostrich.
You can connect any laptop with the free version and datalog without having to use the licensed laptop.
Pretty sure the protocol would be different than other software such as crome or uber
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free EcTune where?
I want to try it before I buy it. ;)
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I tried the free version of eCtune which is supposed to be a datalogger and I can't get it to work. Always tell me that the Demon is not connected or that J12 is not cut. I only want to log, not tune damn it. The cable works well on any other datalogger.
The free version of ectune is for people that are running ectune either a chip via authorized tuner, or their own licensed ostrich.
You can connect any laptop with the free version and datalog without having to use the licensed laptop.
Pretty sure the protocol would be different than other software such as crome or uber
On eCtune website lol But you can't do anything.
http://websrv.ectune.com/ectune.setup.current.zip (http://websrv.ectune.com/ectune.setup.current.zip)
I thought it was a datalogger period, not just for ectune ECU, that explain a lot :P
http://www.ectune.com/eCtune/Versions/Datalogger/tabid/69/Default.aspx (http://www.ectune.com/eCtune/Versions/Datalogger/tabid/69/Default.aspx)
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I'm about to buy eCtune too. I haven't tried very hard, but I can't get Crome to build boost, even with very high value of timing and fuel. It builds maybe 1psi...
what? how are you not building boost? are you using the Gold rom with "Standstill Boost Generator"?
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Yes gold rom, but I've pull 42 degree and 601ms and still nothing other than stand :-\
I don't say it would never work. But I had no time to test it again. Last time car was overheating after some tries so I stoped.
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By the way, it's not only because of the boost generator that I want eCtune. It looks just too awesome.
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By the way, it's not only because of the boost generator that I want eCtune. It looks just too awesome.
shit just works on it i like that lol
4200rpm
50rpm resume
2 fuel value
40* retard
ign. cut no fuel
building 8psi
fried it at 5500 but with more fuel and a larger gap between cut and reusme, almost lit my biddy on fire who was dumb enough to stand behind it, building 12psi no vid of this :(
ill get vids tomorrow night
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TE? :?:
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TE? :?:
should still work as long as you have vtec
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Using Crome Pro
35 deg retard
add 350 μs fuel
4250 rpm
Shit works nice, on a low compression vitara motor builds 10 psi fairly quickly.
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Crome is quickly slipping out of its usefulness.
both Neptune and eCtune have good TPS based mapping.
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Crome is quickly slipping out of its usefulness.
both Neptune and eCtune have good TPS based mapping.
Thanks for bumping an old thread to tell us nothing of importance, dipshit
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Crome isn't crippled by being locked to one car
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Crome isn't crippled by working correctly.
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Crome isn't crippled by working correctly.
L.O.L.
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Works fine for me, but I'm fuckin cheap. I'd rather use eCtune.
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Does crome offer off throttle anti-lag?
AKA "misfiring" system.
Meaning when you are off the throttle for whatever reason, the timing is retarded via altered cas signal, fuel gets dumped into the hot exhaust manifold, combustion happens, turbo spins....all that good shit. More linear power delivery for things such as autox, road racing, rally, drift....etc.
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anti lag is for your wife on my shaft
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Does crome offer off throttle anti-lag?
AKA "misfiring" system.
Meaning when you are off the throttle for whatever reason, the timing is retarded via altered cas signal, fuel gets dumped into the hot exhaust manifold, combustion happens, turbo spins....all that good shit. More linear power delivery for things such as autox, road racing, rally, drift....etc.
No you watch too much rally racing
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Oh, i forgot.
Most of rhmt only can drive in a straight line.....
My bad.
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Oh, i forgot.
Most of rhmt only can drive in a straight line.....
My bad.
Fuck you ;D
Road Racing, auto-x, and some drag racing is my think. ;D
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I own a roadrace car, dummy.
The antilag you speak of is for rally use. Where are you planning on rallying? Uh huh.
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The antilag you speak of is for rally use. Where are you planning on rallying? Uh huh.
Especially in a Mustang...
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Crome isn't crippled by working correctly.
Fuck you Joesph.
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Oh, i forgot.
Most of rhmt only can drive in a straight line.....
My bad.
Fuck you ;D
Road Racing, auto-x, and some drag racing is my think. ;D
MOST, not all.
JD, what does it matter where or what or when?
Question was: Can chrome offer REAL anti lag programming? Not just a TWO STEP REV LIMITER/LAUNCH CONTROL function......
Someone had a smart ass remark telling me "i watch too much rally racing" assuming that's what i wanted it for like it matters or was relevant to the question asked.
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Before that "smart ass remark" I answered your question. Read the first word that I wrote.
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JD, what does it matter where or what or when?
Being a utilitarian, my help is conditional on whether or not there is a need for it. You not being a member of any rallycross association, nor having a car or place where such a function is required, I see no reason to waste my time instructing you on how to shitcan a turbo within a week.
Sorry.
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pull timing and dump fuel at your redline car wont accel you get a pop and spool then rods on the ground
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More likely melted pistons, but the rods could do that.
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Oh, i forgot.
Most of rhmt only can drive in a straight line.....
My bad.
lol!