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Title: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: SgtB on November 29, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
This is Fernando's car from CFT pulling some high HP Supra's. (music sucks, pulls start at 3:14) The one thing that catches my eye is how much being able to stay in gear helps out in the pulls. Avg. HP at work. What gets me is how fast S2000's have gotten in the last two years. Seems like everyone said fuck it at once, or they are just starting to realize that "an Na engine is bad for boost" is total bullshit. I'm seeing 700+hp engines with completely stock lower ends. Fuck I can't wait to get my Hobart. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgxSKXmxGQ&feature=player_embedded#
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: jagojon3 on November 29, 2009, 07:16:04 PM
Pulls start at 3:14 liar
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Cooljnateman on November 29, 2009, 07:17:36 PM
fap fap fap
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: SgtB on November 29, 2009, 07:19:01 PM
Pulls start at 3:14 liar

Yep, I was about to edit that.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 29, 2009, 07:19:26 PM
The s2000 has a gangster engine without a doubt. fucking badass. I just wish i could turbo mine anytime here in the near future.

Idk about anyone else but fuck going that fast in an s2000 the car is iffy at best at really high speeds
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Jorsher on November 29, 2009, 07:20:58 PM
Someday :(
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: SgtB on November 29, 2009, 07:23:06 PM
A real wing helps out above 110mph. I agree though, my AP1 gets floaty around 130, but it wasn't terrifying up to 155. Rumor has it it starts building lift in the rear around 100.

What sucks is the turbo shit is cheap. It's the S2000's drivetrain that's a nightmare. $$$$$$
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 29, 2009, 07:25:25 PM
A real wing helps out above 110mph. I agree though, my AP1 gets floaty around 130, but it wasn't terrifying up to 155. Rumor has it it starts building lift in the rear around 100.

I know what you mean. i took mine to 154 and it was a bit sketchy for my liking.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: MantisX on November 29, 2009, 08:09:00 PM
That things fucking monstrous. Im really thinking of trading in my big dumb ass gas drinking RL for one of these.

MantisX
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 29, 2009, 08:14:46 PM
A real wing helps out above 110mph. I agree though, my AP1 gets floaty around 130, but it wasn't terrifying up to 155. Rumor has it it starts building lift in the rear around 100.

That's easy to correct.  Under the car air dam.  Have it pinch down midway to 2/3rds the way down the length of the car, then open up to create a low pressure pocket in the rear of the car.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: chris on November 29, 2009, 08:30:22 PM
s2000's are getting popular because used ones can be had cheap since the chassis has been out for awhile. Go back 4+ years ago most people werent willing to go that far with a new s2000.



Just like the k series motors took years to catch on
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 29, 2009, 08:37:16 PM
Just like the k series motors took years to catch on

They still haven't, here.  Locally there've been two swaps (or even builds), only one was middling fast.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: chris on November 29, 2009, 08:44:17 PM
Hand full of 10 sec all motor street civic's at boti in Fontana last weekend. Its gotten really big out here but california is the all motor state for sure.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: 98redcavz24 on November 29, 2009, 09:49:17 PM
fuck yea. cft always comin with the solid vids
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Urban Indian on November 30, 2009, 01:07:45 AM
I wish I had more money

I would TT a viper


Orlando Turbo Viper VS Rick T88 Supra (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mczu-B-oM8U&feature=related#normal)
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: highroller54 on November 30, 2009, 01:56:10 AM
I have seen a s2k motor bolted to a k series trans and stuffed into a eg before. I kinda liked it  O0
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on November 30, 2009, 05:04:29 AM
f2k Tis the new bandwagon
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: widebody93 on November 30, 2009, 07:08:28 AM
hmmm SIR's I have waxed a tt viper in my hatch at 488whp...Well I wasnt driving but the BLUE DASH wonder did..... Larry Bisector was the Driver and about 20 min later I out-ran him on his busa..... Not a 600- slut but lighter than and Candaian Bancon fry bean//////////
This is a wain in the makin........ T88 vs a small turbo V10 come on we ALL  on R-HMT knowwhat spool time does to motors. Still HP gods at the will IMO ;D
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Robb on November 30, 2009, 10:48:19 AM
Yeah I totally believe your pile has waxed a tt viper.  Did the driver of the viper know he was racing?

This. 
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 30, 2009, 11:39:15 AM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on November 30, 2009, 04:10:37 PM
I'm goin  to head south this summer with the hatch and met up with JACKFL for some interstate pulls. Look him up on Streetfire...... SRSLY I hot a twin disc on the way with tax return and 200 shot of sprray on a timer thanks Charles at TOPENDUSA


Must suck to need a 200 shot to make H series powerz, from a H series  :-X

My money says your motor disintegrates on it... But since you have no intention on REALLY do ing it anyway, I bid you poorly played sir, BTW the only way your 488 WHPzzzz outran a tt Viper is if you were in blue dash dreamy land.  Or he ran out a gas......


Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 30, 2009, 06:41:51 PM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.

This, i have seen what a supercharged viper on slicks can do. and with turbo's. that just sounds even crazier.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: dvst8r on November 30, 2009, 06:49:07 PM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html)

Don't know many 10psi B's that will run an 11 flat, and trap 129mph.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 30, 2009, 06:51:59 PM
I'm goin  to head south this summer with the hatch and met up with JACKFL for some interstate pulls. Look him up on Streetfire...... SRSLY I hot a twin disc on the way with tax return and 200 shot of sprray on a timer thanks Charles at TOPENDUSA


Must suck to need a 200 shot to make H series powerz, from a H series  :-X

My money says your motor disintegrates on it... But since you have no intention on REALLY do ing it anyway, I bid you poorly played sir, BTW the only way your 488 WHPzzzz outran a tt Viper is if you were in blue dash dreamy land.  Or he ran out a gas......




From a roll, in a car that weighs 800lbs less than your car (fat fucking driver not included), a 400+ wtq Civic is capable of sticking with 175 whp liter bikes, and probably a medium power 700 whp stock engine Viper, especially if someone other than Jeremy was driving.  You'd never get it off the line credibly, but from a roll, maybe.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on November 30, 2009, 07:37:14 PM
I'm goin  to head south this summer with the hatch and met up with JACKFL for some interstate pulls. Look him up on Streetfire...... SRSLY I hot a twin disc on the way with tax return and 200 shot of sprray on a timer thanks Charles at TOPENDUSA


Must suck to need a 200 shot to make H series powerz, from a H series  :-X

My money says your motor disintegrates on it... But since you have no intention on REALLY do ing it anyway, I bid you poorly played sir, BTW the only way your 488 WHPzzzz outran a tt Viper is if you were in blue dash dreamy land.  Or he ran out a gas......




From a roll, in a car that weighs 800lbs less than your car (fat fucking driver not included), a 400+ wtq Civic is capable of sticking with 175 whp liter bikes, and probably a medium power 700 whp stock engine Viper, especially if someone other than Jeremy was driving.  You'd never get it off the line credibly, but from a roll, maybe.


However... his car makes barely 400 WHP (aT 9500) LET ALONE tq...
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 30, 2009, 07:44:59 PM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html)

Don't know many 10psi B's that will run an 11 flat, and trap 129mph.

shit a local ran 11.9 in a stock z6 eg hatch with a 57 trim on 10 lbs, using an afc hack... so yeah learn to drive a car.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: dvst8r on November 30, 2009, 08:07:23 PM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html)

Don't know many 10psi B's that will run an 11 flat, and trap 129mph.

shit a local ran 11.9 in a stock z6 eg hatch with a 57 trim on 10 lbs, using an afc hack... so yeah learn to drive a car.

That is still a second too slow. Fastest b on 10psi I have seen ran 11.4@124.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on November 30, 2009, 08:48:39 PM
So your saying a civic won't be "faster" on the street doing from roll runs?
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on November 30, 2009, 08:53:46 PM
Stock Viper, B-series @ 10 psi will pull it steadily.  7-800 whp blown Viper it requires a LOT more of a Honduh, and really depends on driver.  Past that, or even at that level on slicks, the Viper will destroy about any Honda.  They are pretty stout vehicles if you can afford one.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Dodge-Viper-Timeslip-16606.html)

Don't know many 10psi B's that will run an 11 flat, and trap 129mph.

I'm at 3000ft elevation, so my estimation may be skewed as turbos overcome thin air @ altitude.  Also, Trav-ASS' Integra had all the right parts to push 350+ whp at 10 psi. 
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: gringotegra on November 30, 2009, 10:22:50 PM
If said "488whp Civic" weighed like 2200lbs  then i could believe it a bit more... a car that light with that much power should trap 135mph+... i use the word "Should" because it doesnt always work like that


 For refrence i went 11.80@120 off Wg which was about 9.5psi in a 2600lb integra with a 57trim...
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Urban Indian on December 01, 2009, 01:27:16 AM
i went 124mph........ does that mean I can play with the big boys?
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: gringotegra on December 01, 2009, 02:07:13 AM
i went 124mph........ does that mean I can play with the big boys?

that means you should be pretty even with a stock C6 Z06
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Urban Indian on December 01, 2009, 03:51:41 AM
Ok. I'll make sure I find some stock Z06's so I can race them and be side by side


at 66.66% throttle
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 01, 2009, 06:47:07 AM
i went 124mph........ does that mean I can play with the big boys?

that means you should be pretty even with a stock C6 Z06

Miles... Seriously.... We dont need a lesson on how shit works. Levis car would WAX a zo6 ... with him letting off at 3/4 track.


Jeremys would not.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
So, back on the semi-original topic of big power stock engine S2000 in hopes of actually having some tech in a shithole thread where Spiker mouths opinions on Jeremy because he can't deal with the real world.  I was sitting around with some friends last night and we were pondering if the big power stock motor thing was going to be another short term fad.  A perfect analogy for this would be the evolution of knowledge on B-series sleeves.

In the bad old days it was common knowledge that past 400 whp you really needed to sleeve your block.  This was based off of zero perspective paranoia.  Then suddenly a couple kids with a fuck it attitude made 650+ on stock sleeves, and in a very short time a lot of people did so as well and the common knowledge became stock sleeves are good for 650+.  Fast forward another few years and 20/20 hindsight says these motors came apart quick and you really need sleeves past 400 whp.

F20C is a super stout motor, obviously, but I'm wondering if it's going to be a similar situation where in a couple years people look back on big power stock motors as a really bad idea?  Stock cast or hyper pistons are always fragile, and there is a meme of people putting forgings on stock rods.  Well, as an engine builder buddy of mine pointed out, this is also a problem. Nothing against the stock rod as it's obviously strong, but stock pressed fit pins are good for low horsepower high mileage OEM applications.  There is a reason why the aftermarket universally embraces full floating pins as there is less friction. 

Keep in mind that when I say this, it takes a lot less motors popping than in the B, D, or K worlds for it to have a grave impact on the S2000 scene as there are only so many F2xC.  What do you do when you run out of them, start swapping in 2JZ like a knuckle dragging JDM redneck?   :-\
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on December 01, 2009, 10:34:05 AM
Are you referring to the stock pistons being cast? Unless i missed it somewhere s2000's have forged pistons and based on viewing my pistons out of my f20c i fucked up they look just like any other aftermarket piston, they even have a coating on the skirt. there also full floating.

but i do think that most s2000 people will keep it pretty tame as far as power levels. It's the shops out to prove something that make "stock block" power. really most people stop at around 400-450 whp.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 10:40:38 AM
Are you referring to the stock pistons being cast? Unless i missed it somewhere s2000's have forged pistons and based on viewing my pistons out of my f20c i fucked up they look just like any other aftermarket piston, they even have a coating on the skirt. there also full floating.

No shit?  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: speedjunky01 on December 01, 2009, 11:21:02 AM
When you had yours apart did you look at the rods?  In your opinion how "beefy" are they?

look damn thick to me, dont know if he measured ect im ASSuming

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2842254698128575108&ei=FjQVS42GOcfdlQf72by0Dg&q=s2000+motor&hl=en&view=2&client=firefox-a# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2842254698128575108&ei=FjQVS42GOcfdlQf72by0Dg&q=s2000+motor&hl=en&view=2&client=firefox-a#)
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Robb on December 01, 2009, 11:28:16 AM
When you had yours apart did you look at the rods?  In your opinion how "beefy" are they?

look damn thick to me, dont know if he measured ect im ASSuming


Dude, never assume anything from faggots who make CG videos of an engine being built.  They are the reason ASE fucking fails.

Google search took like 2 seconds.
Stock rod next to a stroker rod.
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.turbomagazine.com%2Ff%2F17899011%2Fturp_0901_06_z%2Bhonda_s2000%2Bbc_rods.jpg&hash=b9a7c48f253958463019f25a19387da3bf5fd34d)

And its even some from fucking faggot magizine article. There you go.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: speedjunky01 on December 01, 2009, 12:15:07 PM
the chinks are fully supporting the f20c

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-S2000-TOP-MOUNTED-TURBO-MANIFOLD-T3T4-2000-2007_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef9dd13bbQQitemZ270479987643QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA-S2000-TOP-MOUNTED-TURBO-MANIFOLD-T3T4-2000-2007_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef9dd13bbQQitemZ270479987643QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)


if i can find one localy for sub 9k im grabbing it up
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on December 01, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
If you guys want detailed pic of the engine it is sitting in a million pieces. can see some nice valve carnage.
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Lowerit on December 01, 2009, 01:22:42 PM
Lots of Z06's trapping anywhere from 128 to 132.


Look up ranger Z06 .. 10.8's in a stock car on DR's
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 01:54:30 PM
If you guys want detailed pic of the engine it is sitting in a million pieces.

Please?
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on December 01, 2009, 01:59:56 PM
will do
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: turbob16hatch on December 01, 2009, 02:04:29 PM
I'm from Fargo,Nd and i have not a clue about a engine being sold. sorry
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 01, 2009, 02:28:20 PM
JD EVERYONE is aware that you are a faggot, no need to proveit time and time again.  :-*
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 02:50:27 PM
I'm not a faggot so much as a chubby chaser... and I've yet to meet a woman as voluptuous as you, Brian.   :-*
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 01, 2009, 04:29:22 PM
I'm not a faggot so much as a chubby chaser... and I've yet to meet a woman as voluptuous as you, Brian.   :-*


Thats because your busy chasing men.  LIttle 13 year old ones at that.   :-* :-*
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Joseph Davis on December 01, 2009, 04:53:35 PM
(https://realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realhomemadeturbo.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2Fclassic%2Frolleyes.gif&hash=5805137b67db00abde932177bc58b11cc93be8c2)
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: gringotegra on December 01, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
Lots of Z06's trapping anywhere from 128 to 132.


Look up ranger Z06 .. 10.8's in a stock car on DR's

Bone stock id say the 90% out there trap 123-126 and run 11.50-11.20's... my roomates 07 Z06 off the show room floor it was trapping 124 and went 11.31...best mph it ever saw was 127 on a cold ass 40 deg night...now that car has intake, long tubes, cam and a E85 tune makes 556whp  traps 132-134 on average and its a beast on the street..
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on December 01, 2009, 09:21:27 PM
3150 without driver....

550 whp..

mid 130 traps???
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: gringotegra on December 01, 2009, 10:02:47 PM
3150 without driver....

550 whp..

mid 130 traps???

we weighed his and it was more like 3200 with driver on the same scale my car was 2650 with driver and full interior.. ive been trying to get him to go to seattle  ;D... Spiker  its the same guy that bought the 4 door!! i got some timeslips here of his car trapping 132-133..The car traps 102-105 in the 1/8th..


Corection roomate said it was 3100lbs
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: Urban Indian on December 02, 2009, 03:28:08 AM
I am down to race his Z06. Set it up



I also still want a supra................... I have needs
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: widebody93 on December 02, 2009, 07:04:35 AM
I'm not a faggot so much as a chubby chaser... and I've yet to meet a woman as voluptuous as you, Brian.   :-*
ZING with our arguements in updated posts  :-*
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: slappynuts on December 02, 2009, 08:35:33 AM
Wait till fernando puts on his new kit  ;)
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: gringotegra on December 02, 2009, 11:32:07 AM
I am down to race his Z06. Set it up



I also still want a supra................... I have needs

It would have to be down here... hes too big of a puss to drive up to seattle just to race someone...and without knowing what he is racing he wont go...ive tried to get him to go many places but theres that fear of him possibly loosing a race that he doesnt like...if he ever goes to race someone with a really fast car he always talks about how he will just go throw on a 150shot and itll be all over... kind of pisses me off that he cant just go race somone for shits..
Title: Re: 800+HP street S2000
Post by: 88crex on December 03, 2009, 06:34:08 PM
myles you fucking e-race more than anyone i know. Only other dumbfuck i hear talkin trap speed this and trap speed that is the fucking homo chris from clutchmaster's i think you have talked to him too much.