:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: 98vtec on December 31, 2009, 02:44:18 PM
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Give me ideas. So far I just started paying for advertising space (its cheap so why not) on a local forum but something is telling me its not getting the message across since i'm advertising not only myself but the shop as well. I just started working here about 6 months ago and its been a domestic dominant shop for the 5 years its been open. It's a great experience learning the fords and chevys but i am more efficient working around the imports since i am more familiar with them and obviously that helps my tuning business as well and tuning is where I can make the most money.
Anyone got any creative thoughts?
if not............
go kill yourself.
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Do a car build on some of the local forums. Go in depth on what your doing and post results.
Basically, show the locals that you know your shit.
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You are just advertising? Are you showing results of any of your builds or tuning? In depth threads and vids on Youtube/Streetfire would help
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
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Do a car build on some of the local forums. Go in depth on what your doing and post results.
Basically, show the locals that you know your shit.
I've got the new build on there right now and I have gone into enough depth without leaking some of the things my builder doesnt want posted since i'm not building this block. I wish I would have been around that place when I did the first one but this new one will display mostly my tuning abilities. I dont currently have the tools to feel comfortable building a motor for customers but if business picks up with imports i'll be able to buy the tools and advertise that line. I have the knowledge and ability to do so, but knowledge and ability doesnt see an egged cylinder or other faults.
Thanks
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You are just advertising? Are you showing results of any of your builds or tuning? In depth threads and vids on Youtube/Streetfire would help
hmm, some youtube videos would be cool. Thanks
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
so you are suggesting that i learn to tune the new hondas? which ultimately means that i need to become a fuckdata dealer.
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i agree with jd... most imports are owned by cheap ass diy'ers who want everything for nothing.
i'm on a couple local import forums and every time i get a request for a price on something, i quote it and never hear from them again. most of these guys are in school and living at home, so they want ebay pricing on everything.
if you want import market you should be chasing the european makes (bmw, audi, porsche, etc). those guys have money to spend but they are picky as fuck.
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yea i actually had a VW come over yesterday asking about tuning his APR. I couldnt lie to him and tell him i could do it because im not the kind of person to get a customer hyped up and then let them down when i dont get it running like i want it to. He's getting all his work done and I told him to bring the ems to me once he gets it and i would take a look at the software. Only so much you can learn from reading online. Customer service is a big pet peeve of mine so i think thats a strong point.
I completely agree on the import cheap asses. I've gone so far as chipping an ecu for free if i do the tuning as well as knocking 50 dollars of my tuning cost to keep their business. Just ridiculous. Gotta start somewhere though and i've always been the kind of person who likes to start from the ground up so i get all my bases covered.
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
so you are suggesting that i learn to tune the new hondas? which ultimately means that i need to become a fuckdata dealer.
I don't think that would even be worth your time.
I agree with JD and Weir on this one. Most "import enthusiasts" are cheap and/or broke asses. It seems that the only ones that spend ass loads of money are those west coast trendy jack offs, and even they tend to do most of the labor shit themselves.
I have pretty much stopped doing anything for the locals. Nobody wants to pay for my time, so I don't waste any of it on them.
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spiker and i deal with a outfit called jim greens they are mostly domestic and dont have to much respect for imports....there biggest complaint is kids coming in asking for or ordering a part then not picking up the part or complaining the part is too expensive....the import scene is full of broke ass niggers...wanting everything at ebay prices.....
as far as your business goes i think word of mouth is a huge asset.proof is in the pudding, you tube, and other forums are a good avenue, wish you luck
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
so you are suggesting that i learn to tune the new hondas? which ultimately means that i need to become a fuckdata dealer.
I don't think that would even be worth your time.
I agree with JD and Weir on this one. Most "import enthusiasts" are cheap and/or broke asses. It seems that the only ones that spend ass loads of money are those west coast trendy jack offs, and even they tend to do most of the labor shit themselves.
I have pretty much stopped doing anything for the locals. Nobody wants to pay for my time, so I don't waste any of it on them.
It really hit me when i tuned a "friends" built/boosted/ b18 motor and only charged him 300 including the ectune license. It's been over 2 months since i tuned his car and i have only received 200 dollars.....and i didnt even get that til a couple weeks ago.
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Local shop near me had a dyno day he use to refuse imports I put the mighty b16 on his dyno pulled 300hp they were like wow the can make power, then he opens his doors to imports although he doesn't have much sofware he is open to try anything.
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yea i actually had a VW come over yesterday asking about tuning his APR. I couldnt lie to him and tell him i could do it because im not the kind of person to get a customer hyped up and then let them down when i dont get it running like i want it to. He's getting all his work done and I told him to bring the ems to me once he gets it and i would take a look at the software. Only so much you can learn from reading online. Customer service is a big pet peeve of mine so i think thats a strong point.
APR has excellent tech support and will sell you all the gear/etc at affordable prices to do custom tunes. Call them up and start talking, sir.
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Word of mouth is still the best. Web forums in general do little to nothing for generating business.
You can always run a import special for a couple months to try to bring in a couple more people but again that kind of stuff is hit or miss.
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JD, can you give me an idea of how much all the gear is? I looked around just a sec and saw they offer the reflash (no tuning) crap, but i dont really trust mail order tunes.
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Word of mouth is still the best. Web forums in general do little to nothing for generating business.
You can always run a import special for a couple months to try to bring in a couple more people but again that kind of stuff is hit or miss.
maybe something like a New Year special sounds cool. "First hour of tuning is free". basically save them 90 dollars.
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Also not a horrible idea is if you have a couple extra thousand bucks build a vitara build in a cheap0 88-91 chassis.
Things like the vitara/d series builds are so affordable really anyone with a job and a couple grand can make it happen. If you can get enough buzz around the area you should be able to get alot of people who may have walked away from the stuff to want to jump back into it when they see all these 11 sec sohc builds that cost what a b series swap runs.
D series builds were made for this recession. I really think that most people just want a sub 12 sec car and if things break like transmission etc they are uber cheap and easy to source and makes people fell at ease. It essentially is the best of both worlds.
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Also not a horrible idea is if you have a couple extra thousand bucks build a vitara build in a cheap0 88-91 chassis.
Things like the vitara/d series builds are so affordable really anyone with a job and a couple grand can make it happen. If you can get enough buzz around the area you should be able to get alot of people who may have walked away from the stuff to want to jump back into it when they see all these 11 sec sohc builds that cost what a b series swap runs.
D series builds were made for this recession. I really think that most people just want a sub 12 sec car and if things break like transmission etc they are uber cheap and easy to source and makes people fell at ease. It essentially is the best of both worlds.
Truth.
And when you take that vitara build to the track and smash the local b series college boys car, interest will be big.
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once i get my car done, i could probably do a vitara build it in my garage, work on it after hours and then sell it. have them go through the shop to do the swap and tuning.
that is a GREAT idea. affordable turbo kits are a dime a dozen for those motors. and RHMT is D series heaven.
hmm, that also makes me think of another thing. I have the parts to put together a h23vtec OEM rebuild for relatively cheap just laying in the garage.
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Have them hire a hot dirty slut at the front desk, if that dosent bring in more import work at least u have a hot dirty slut at the front desk :noel:
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Why would you want to build a car to sell it and then have it tuned? Most people who buy already built cars are morons who do not know how to mantain them + they blow up.
Do a mid 10 second Vitara setup for $2K, run the shop sticker on it, reap the rep and reliability a 7.5:1 motor provides.
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Be smarter than everyone and back it up with numbers.
It's how the reputable people stay in business. See: Tony1, Miller, Jeff Evans, ect.
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Be smarter than everyone and back it up with numbers.
It's how the reputable people stay in business. See: Tony1, Miller, Jeff Evans, ect.
I completely agree. However, you cant provide numbers without clientelle. Those guys are also very fortunate to be in the areas of the country they are in. I've just got a lot to learn in this aspect of the business i guess.
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
This. Import guys on average won't spend money like the domestic crowd will.
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Why would you want to build a car to sell it and then have it tuned? Most people who buy already built cars are morons who do not know how to mantain them + they blow up.
Do a mid 10 second Vitara setup for $2K, run the shop sticker on it, reap the rep and reliability a 7.5:1 motor provides.
THIS!!
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Why would you want to build a car to sell it and then have it tuned? Most people who buy already built cars are morons who do not know how to mantain them + they blow up.
Do a mid 10 second Vitara setup for $2K, run the shop sticker on it, reap the rep and reliability a 7.5:1 motor provides.
in what? another car i would have to buy and no place to put it. I have my car that needs to be finished (still has a ton of money left to just get the motor assembled), my truck payment and insurance, and i make 12 dollars an hour turning wrenches and every now and then i will get a car to tune which by itself will match a 1/4 of my 2 week paycheck (80 hours) at the least. Working at this shop is an excellent learning experience, but i have got to find a way to make more money if i plan on being able to live outside the doors of my parents house.
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Get the shop on board with the dirty cheap shop car idea to draw the import guys in.
Shop car. Not your car.
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Don't bother. For the most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
This. Import guys on average won't spend money like the domestic crowd will.
truth. I'm still amazed at how much money these guys spend.
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Why would you want to build a car to sell it and then have it tuned? Most people who buy already built cars are morons who do not know how to mantain them + they blow up.
Do a mid 10 second Vitara setup for $2K, run the shop sticker on it, reap the rep and reliability a 7.5:1 motor provides.
in what? another car i would have to buy and no place to put it. I have my car that needs to be finished (still has a ton of money left to just get the motor assembled), my truck payment and insurance, and i make 12 dollars an hour turning wrenches and every now and then i will get a car to tune which by itself will match a 1/4 of my 2 week paycheck (80 hours) at the least. Working at this shop is an excellent learning experience, but i have got to find a way to make more money if i plan on being able to live outside the doors of my parents house.
I could buy 20 cars tonight, and have places for them. Just because your life is a disaster and you have your priorities all screwed up doesn't mean you're making any sense. You obviously have access to a dyno, and that facilitates many things. I get by from being a fucking asshole who knows more than everyone else, and being able to fix anything... what's your claim to fame?
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Have them hire a hot dirty slut at the front desk, if that dosent bring in more import work at least u have a hot dirty slut at the front desk :noel:
Speaking of sluts, easiest way around here is to practically give a setup away to a hot chick, then everyone wants to copy her shit - and one-up her too. Average age tends to be a big factor too. There aren't many older people that will try impressing people with a Civic.
One thing about domestic prices - my friend has a built & boosted LS1/mustang with cost being equal to a mild b-series setup. :( Last time he fishtailed down the quarter in every gear on old street tires and did 11.7@127. He can get 8 forged pistons for almost the price of 4 CP's.
In the end, I'd vote you get your shop to sponsor a dirt-cheap 88-91 vitara build. Have your guys do a "domestic" port job on an A6 head, get a delta cam, custom length FJT rods, and a used holslut. Build the suspension and make decent HP, and it will practically run 10's itself :P
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I could buy 20 cars tonight, and have places for them. Just because your life is a disaster and you have your priorities all screwed up doesn't mean you're making any sense.
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this should be any car guys priority. right now i have less cars at my house in a while with 5, not including the snowmobile and streetbike. having a good car to show for, plus happy customers, and not being a douche cunt like the majority of import owners id say you would get your business when people need a shop to tune there rides. the problem is for you to know whos going to actually be a customer and whos goign to just leech/waste your time.
im pretty sure business doesnt boom in the winter months so be patient as well(if your in a place that gets winter weather). but doesnt mean you shouldnt be getting prepared for the people wanting to be ready for spring.
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put a bisimoto sticker on the shop car
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Have you tried advertising to the military crowd at all? I know that when i was in Pensecola, the base is all a training base, and its where people go pretty much straight out of boot camp so they are living in a barracks, with no bills and plenty of guaranteed money.
When i was there 60 percent of the guy's that lived in the barracks had imports and modified them. Nothing else to spend money on besides cars and boo's.
Most of the time they will pay for everything to be done for them since they don't have a garage and tools or anything and most don't know about the Auto Hobby shop on Corey station.
Just a thought..
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Be smarter than everyone and back it up with numbers.
It's how the reputable people stay in business. See: Tony1, Miller, Jeff Evans, ect.
Those guys probably have so many business loans its not even funny. Now most will say you have to go that route and most of the time they are correct but you don't need to go that far to be a success.
98vtec,
The vitara style build is really the only way the old school way of having a fast car that will get people on your dyno and doesnt require you to get a loan to make it happen.
The car is in a investment a small one at that compared to what you have in your prelude motor alone. Your prelude is hella nice but in this economy most people just don't want to spend the money even if they have it. Thats where building a dirty d really gets people excited.
11 sec cars thrown together with yesterdays garbage and 125 dollar pistons will get even the most jaded individual a smile. Not to mention you get the fame and I would be shocked if the car doesnt pay for itself in 2-3 months.
If I was in your boat I would be all over the d build. I'm not the type of guy who can handle most people in person asking me to many questions hence why Im a internet guy and most of my business is a result of used parts/engines.
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Be smarter than everyone and back it up with numbers.
It's how the reputable people stay in business. See: Tony1, Miller, Jeff Evans, ect.
I completely agree. However, you cant provide numbers without clientelle. Those guys are also very fortunate to be in the areas of the country they are in. I've just got a lot to learn in this aspect of the business i guess.
Are you smart enough to pull that kind of clout? When I say smart, I say if I turn to you with a question, are you going to be able to come up with the right answer? Are you going to be able to come up with it quickly? I know time and experience plays a huge role in this, but that's what it takes to be a successful person in the automotive industry. If people trust you, they will use you as a contact around their whole build. They will ask you where to get their engine built. They will ask you what turbo setup to buy, and why. They will ask what cam gears. Ems. ect ect ect. Once you get in that position, you can contact distributors and get a piece of each order. 5-10% on $2000 where you just had to know the person to call and the right specs is not bad money on top of the $500 you'll get for tuning the car.
Areas of the country? Go talk to any of those guys and I doubt they will say, "Dude, our location is soooo awesome. That's why we do major business." They know what they are talking about. Even idiots appreciate a person who knows what they are talking about because in order for idiots to still be alive, they've learned how to realize who is smarter than them and latch on to them like a leach.
I'd say, find someone local, looking to do a major build. Tell them you will help them in anyway, free of charge or for some low nominal fee, if they are willing to spread your name around the internet like wildfire. If you do a good job, and the car makes good numbers, you will be forever attached to that car. Do that 3-4 times, and you'll be set.
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So build a 100k+ drag car and you too can be a sucess at business. Tell Bisi that ::)
Build a vitara build and bring in good blue collar guys who want a sub 12 sec street car. Again thats what most people want not a car with 15k+ wrapped up in a build.
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
I don't think so.. you should see beaus shop, they work on everything. Imports are the bread and butter.
One of these days I'd like to open my own shop. But my balls are not big enough. Afraid of failure? yes Afraid of working 80 hours a week yes.
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Who said $100k drag car? I'm talking about a $6-$10k build. Enough to make power where you get people's respect and want to replicate you, but not enough to where you are building ridiculous things where people think you're out of touch with the regular folk.
I have no issue with doing a Vitara build. It is a solid idea. Shit, buy D-series blocks, assemble them, and sell them to locals. That's all good stuff. I just think if you do budget brand bullshit all day, people are not going to think of you in the highest regard when someone with some money wants to have stuff done.
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I have no issue with doing a Vitara build. It is a solid idea. Shit, buy D-series blocks, assemble them, and sell them to locals. That's all good stuff. I just think if you do budget brand bullshit all day, people are not going to think of you in the highest regard when someone with some money wants to have stuff done.
Ideally, with an effective budget build like a Vitara would be, you'd also do a less budget build, so you can give customers the impression "If you can do this much for me with so little, what can you do with a lot of money?"
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Budget build to get them in the door.
It gets the interest started, then the rep will grow.
Just because he does a dirty D, it don't limit him to the D alone. He has to get the interest and the reputation built to generate the traffic. Once he has that, he can build whatever he wants.
You can't see the trees because of the forest.
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Who said $100k drag car? I'm talking about a $6-$10k build. Enough to make power where you get people's respect and want to replicate you, but not enough to where you are building ridiculous things where people think you're out of touch with the regular folk.
I have no issue with doing a Vitara build. It is a solid idea. Shit, buy D-series blocks, assemble them, and sell them to locals. That's all good stuff. I just think if you do budget brand bullshit all day, people are not going to think of you in the highest regard when someone with some money wants to have stuff done.
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You've got to prove you know what you're doing with people who are actually going to pay someone else to build a car correctly for them, not 19 year old internet racers who have been reading internet forums and want everything done as cheaply as possible because they saw it online.
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build the D, paint it yellow, put an obscenely large graphic on the side, spend all your nights and weekends camped out across the street from the local porsche dealer. ;D if you smoke one guy on a test drive, he will never forget it. try really hard not to get arrested because that will definitely fuck everything up, and probably get you fried. or you could be a normal person and go to the drag strip.
as for imports, i agree with all the above. try to work with people you like and try to only work on projects you like, things will go more smoothly, the leachs wont bleed you dry, and waste all your time. and remember the guy who knows what it takes and spends the money is more likely to tell people who did the work, the low budget leachs are just going to tell everybody they did all the shit them self.
as for parts, there will always be more money in domestic cars. the proformace market for them is bigger than any other, and there is lots of money to be made there. big import parts manufactures know this and most of them will push the cheapest shit they can. whether or not you want a piece of it is up to you.
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you guys fucking rock
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Who said $100k drag car? I'm talking about a $6-$10k build. Enough to make power where you get people's respect and want to replicate you, but not enough to where you are building ridiculous things where people think you're out of touch with the regular folk.
I have no issue with doing a Vitara build. It is a solid idea. Shit, buy D-series blocks, assemble them, and sell them to locals. That's all good stuff. I just think if you do budget brand bullshit all day, people are not going to think of you in the highest regard when someone with some money wants to have stuff done.
You used people like t1 as an example and dont try to tell me that car doesnt have 100k+ into it over the years.
Budget bullshit=dyno time
He is a dyno guy. Dyno time is dyno time regardless of what it is. I run my own business/shop and have grown in this fucked up economy so I might know what the hell Im talking about,just maybe.
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I'm not talking about their personal shop race cars. I couldn't begin to guess how much they dump in their cars. They get hookups from friends, they do their own crazy fab work, they can dyno tune all day making small changes, and they don't have to bill out any of that labor or necessarily pay real retail prices. I used them in the beginning because I know if I call up any of those 3 people, they will be able to answer 95% of my questions right then and there based on experience and knowledge. There are more people that fit in that criteria, but those are 3 that came to mind that are excellent examples of super knowledgeable guys that own shops.
I'm talking about going on a local race forum. Find someone making a post saying "Hey, I have a '93 Honda Coupe and I'm looking for help on building a motor because I want to make 500whp." If the person is legit, and has a job, and can actually afford the build, 98vtec can then contact them and say, "Hey, I'm from the area and I just started out in this shop. I can help you out sponsoring the car, if you let me do the tuning and work together choosing the parts and building the car." That way he isn't spending his money building the car, he just using his resources and knowledge to help build a nice car and in the end he will get a lot of the credit.
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I'm talking about going on a local race forum. Find someone making a post saying "Hey, I have a '93 Honda Coupe and I'm looking for help on building a motor because I want to make 500whp." If the person is legit, and has a job, and can actually afford the build, 98vtec can then contact them and say, "Hey, I'm from the area and I just started out in this shop. I can help you out sponsoring the car, if you let me do the tuning and work together choosing the parts and building the car." That way he isn't spending his money building the car, he just using his resources and knowledge to help build a nice car and in the end he will get a lot of the credit.
This.
Just be sure the person has deep wallets and is committed to completing the build. I can't count the amount of times I've helped people for free thinking that the build would get me lots of publicity once it was done only to find out the person sold the car or just doesn't want to finish it.
Either way, all this will take time. I'm talking years. Just ask Chris.
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I'm going to talk to brad about it on monday just to see how he feels. He's got a lot on his plate right now financially but i guess it doesnt hurt to try. i KNOW i am going to have to finish my prelude first though. That's my priority in regards to a shop car.
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People will differ from my opinions but I am one of few left making a living doing this on their own,no family backing,no loans and no bullshit. Im not rich nor plan on being a 6 figure guy doing this. Im in my 20's and hope by the time Im in my mid 30's I will continue to grow regardless of what is going on outside my personal box.
Throwing all of your marbles into other peoples hands is a disaster waiting to happen especially being a dyno guy. You need to have something that is your personal vehicle that is hands down nasty.
Your the builder,driver,tuner and mechanic that is something that separates the men from the boys. I maybe a white dude from the slums but I can tell you this the only one who is going to make it is yourself not hoping guys you tune will make it out to the track 12+ times a year,videotape or give you copies of timeslips. That shit is on you and its that simple.
The vitara build in a hood 88-91 civic will bring in income and that is something most people in this field dream of.
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I'm talking about going on a local race forum. Find someone making a post saying "Hey, I have a '93 Honda Coupe and I'm looking for help on building a motor because I want to make 500whp." If the person is legit, and has a job, and can actually afford the build, 98vtec can then contact them and say, "Hey, I'm from the area and I just started out in this shop. I can help you out sponsoring the car, if you let me do the tuning and work together choosing the parts and building the car." That way he isn't spending his money building the car, he just using his resources and knowledge to help build a nice car and in the end he will get a lot of the credit.
This.
Just be sure the person has deep wallets and is committed to completing the build. I can't count the amount of times I've helped people for free thinking that the build would get me lots of publicity once it was done only to find out the person sold the car or just doesn't want to finish it.
Either way, all this will take time. I'm talking years. Just ask Chris.
this is sort of a crazy thought that may or may not apply here. alot of chassis/race engine builders that will out right sell stuff (not lease) make you sign a frist buy back option on the contract. this is basicly so they dont help out teams they dont want to, i guess its fairly common now. you could do the same thing, were you sign a contract that says i have done (X) to your care for free, and if i dont get the first buy option when you sell it, then i get to lean your title for (X). it wont guarantee he finishes it, nor will it guarantee that it sold with the same engine, but it stops him from selling the car without you knowing about it. it would make sure he is as married to you, as you are to him.
oops gayness, my bad
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Don't bother. For th most part, imports are a low profit circus unless you're working on the newer or high end ones.
I don't think so.. you should see beaus shop, they work on everything. Imports are the bread and butter.
You should come to WNC, it's not like that here.
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Keep a few of these in stock and the import kids will never leave
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That bitch is 10 inches tall nigga!!!
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People will differ from my opinions but I am one of few left making a living doing this on their own,no family backing,no loans and no bullshit. Im not rich nor plan on being a 6 figure guy doing this. Im in my 20's and hope by the time Im in my mid 30's I will continue to grow regardless of what is going on outside my personal box.
Throwing all of your marbles into other peoples hands is a disaster waiting to happen especially being a dyno guy. You need to have something that is your personal vehicle that is hands down nasty.
Your the builder,driver,tuner and mechanic that is something that separates the men from the boys. I maybe a white dude from the slums but I can tell you this the only one who is going to make it is yourself not hoping guys you tune will make it out to the track 12+ times a year,videotape or give you copies of timeslips. That shit is on you and its that simple.
The vitara build in a hood 88-91 civic will bring in income and that is something most people in this field dream of.
well the nasty part i think i am going to have covered with the prelude even though it is all motor. And yea i definitely get what you are saying about leaving it in the customers hands. I've already learned how reliable that can be...or lack there of. I'm 25 and i still live with my parents. Thats fucking sad. If i would have done better in school and actually cared about the degree i was graduating with, i wouldnt be in the situation i am in right now. But i have never seen myself doing anything different than making shit go fast so i am going to do my damnedest to make this work out. If not, i will have to get a job that i hate like 3/4 of the people with jobs.
The only reason i am not building the race motor is because i wanted to give back to the guy who has taught me so much throughout the years. I figure this way, i can learn even more as he will talk me through his process and what all he is doing. not to mention i get to feel really good about keeping him in business and tagging his name to a motor thats going to make a LOT of power.
anyway, enough with the bullshit vagina talk.
In the forum i sponsor, i just offered a free tune to anyone with Nistune (just for allowing me to use the software and gain some experience) since we have a lot of nissan guys around this areas and im not sure of anyone around here that does that. I have been in contact with Matt @ Nistune and the programming is pretty similar to ectune..etc and the daughter boards are damn easy to install onto the board. Hopefully someone bites. Don't really care about making the money as hopefully that will come as people come through the door.
Thanks to everyone for helping out :mexi:
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well the nasty part i think i am going to have covered with the prelude even though it is all motor.
anyway, enough with the bullshit vagina talk.
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well the nasty part i think i am going to have covered with the prelude even though it is all motor.
anyway, enough with the bullshit vagina talk.
FUCK YOU
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I can see an H-motor making some nice NA power, but I cannot see it revealing said power in a BB chassis.
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I can see an H-motor making some nice NA power, but I cannot see it revealing said power in a BB chassis.
how about the possibility of a high 11, low 12 sec pass :)
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I can see an H-motor making some nice NA power, but I cannot see it revealing said power in a BB chassis.
how about the possibility of a high 11, low 12 sec pass :)
With or without a 100-150 shot?
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no bottle. I see no reason that my car wont be a second or more faster with 80+more whp, better gearing, and more traction/suspension
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i am probably going to add a direct port to it though for shits and giggles.
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ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
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Wheelie bars on a first gen rx7 with a 3tc
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ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
fuck an ecotec
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ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
fuck an ecotec
fuck an h22
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ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
fuck an ecotec
fuck an h22
:'(
FUCK YOU
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fuck an ecotec
+1
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ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
fuck an ecotec
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The blocks are stout as fuck, and they can make big power.
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Most of the import guys around here are like me. Cheap. Say fuck them and cater to the mother fuckers with money.
ecotec an ef and put a assload of shop stickers on it
I always thought it would be cool to do an ecotec in a fiero. From what I have gathered, the ecotech will bolt to the quad four tranny. Add boost, and a fuel system that wont blow you up if a stray shopping cart hits your bumper. You're set.
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Northstar Fiero > Ecotech Fiero
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Carlos Cumguzzleman > Henry Woodruff
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Northstar Fiero > Ecotech Fiero
Eh, it depends on how you look at it.
I guess if you take the time to reseal the fucker and time sert the head and main bolt holes before the swap, then yes, I agree.
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Build the first 10 sec turbo zc
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I thought Beau did?
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Get some wheelie bars and put some wheelie bars on them.
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Fuck wheelie bars, drag bumpers
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But then the parachute will fall off...
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live dangerously
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But I'm scared :-[
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ok, stick to your homosexual porn in the privacy of your parents closet
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I have my own closet, sir.
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park hondas all around your shop
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after that, get a bunch of gay ass na turbo buttfuck exhaust tips, then hook em up to the shop compressor and time clock so it "B!L!O!W!S O!F!F!" every ten minutes. then put co2 tanks in every car out front (synchronized with the blow off clock of coarse) so everyone thinks they have NNOOOOSS. then dump an industrial 5 gallon bucket of hair gel on your head so it looks like your shell-shocked from all the "INSANE HORSEPOWER". after that, run across the street were there filming some broke dick used car commercial, jump in front of the camera and let everyone know that you've changed the import performance world,,, again.
i think this is how bisi dose it.
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haha
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would it be wise to offer free services in exchange for exposure?
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would it be wise to offer free services in exchange for exposure?
Nope then people will all ask for it. If someone has a clean car/goes to the track etc give them a solid deal but not free
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I got an idea. If all goes well, I might get a sponsorship from OCZC. Depending on the price, maybe I can get you to do my motor. I'm in Kingsland GA, and could do a road trip and drop my block off.
Then when its done, your shop an OCZC will get exposure.
It would be a win-win situation.
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I got an idea. If all goes well, I might get a sponsorship from OCZC. Depending on the price, maybe I can get you to do my motor. I'm in Kingsland GA, and could do a road trip and drop my block off.
Then when its done, your shop an OCZC will get exposure.
It would be a win-win situation.
That is by far the best option. Oczc has already made 900 whp on a d16 too
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IMO you can't establish your business with a car, or four cars, or anything like that. A lot of businesses that are sales and service oriented take 5+ years to get established. You have to make it happen too. It takes a shitload of dedication and a desire to succeed, and you have to know what you're doing. If you do something and business is boominig in 3 months, odds are it's temporary and will fall off in 3 months. It takes time to become established as the shop to take your lawn mower to, or the shop to have your honda tuned at, whatever.
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IMO you can't establish your business with a car, or four cars, or anything like that. A lot of businesses that are sales and service oriented take 5+ years to get established. You have to make it happen too. It takes a shitload of dedication and a desire to succeed, and you have to know what you're doing. If you do something and business is boominig in 3 months, odds are it's temporary and will fall off in 3 months. It takes time to become established as the shop to take your lawn mower to, or the shop to have your honda tuned at, whatever.
it helps to show people that you are capable. And by being capable, i mean you have cars displaying your work. If there is a car that is constantly beat on and still holds together, i believe that shows a bit of what your made of.
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I got an idea. If all goes well, I might get a sponsorship from OCZC. Depending on the price, maybe I can get you to do my motor. I'm in Kingsland GA, and could do a road trip and drop my block off.
Then when its done, your shop an OCZC will get exposure.
It would be a win-win situation.
the only problem i see is that I wouldn't want to do this "on the clock". It can be done much cheaper for you if you arent having to pay shop fees. Not to mention we dont have anything in the computer regarding prices or time on an engine build (i have an idea on time but i think you know where i am coming from).
not to mention i do not currently have the tools (missing a cylinder bore gauge, a couple micrometers, cam degree fixture) for me to feel comfortable building an engine for someone else. I built my last motor with a lot of questions in mind since i didnt have the tools to answer my questions and i just wont go into a job with someone elses money on the line when im not fitted with the tools needed to really complete a job.
I would honestly be more interested in being the tuner than being the builder on this one. Don't get me wrong, i feel i am capable to build you an engine if i had the tools i have been needing to buy for the last couple years but that just isnt the case right now since I have so much money to spend on getting my car back at the drag strip.
pat,
I do completely agree with you on the taking time part. Thats what brad told me. He said it was just going to take time for me to gain experience and trust of people in order to bring in some bigger projects of my own.
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IMO you can't establish your business with a car, or four cars, or anything like that. A lot of businesses that are sales and service oriented take 5+ years to get established. You have to make it happen too. It takes a shitload of dedication and a desire to succeed, and you have to know what you're doing. If you do something and business is boominig in 3 months, odds are it's temporary and will fall off in 3 months. It takes time to become established as the shop to take your lawn mower to, or the shop to have your honda tuned at, whatever.
it helps to show people that you are capable. And by being capable, i mean you have cars displaying your work. If there is a car that is constantly beat on and still holds together, i believe that shows a bit of what your made of.
I agree. Seriously.
All I was saying is that one car or four cars, etc, no one thing you do is going to get anythinig "establisihed". Over time, all your efforts will pay off though. If you builid some shop car that hits the strip 12 times a year for 3 years and becomes "known" to be that honda that's fast and reliaible, great. That will certainly help, along with everything else.
I've worked on cars on the side for the last 6-7 years. At first, it was hard to find any work. Now work finds me. Hell, I was working on a construction site with people I've never seen before during thanksgiving and a guy I was working with asked me if I was the Pat that worked on cars, he needed some work done on his camry. Just one example, but that's the result of doing it for several years. When I first started, I did work too cheap thinking it was the right thing to do. Meh, looking back, I should have charged more sometimes. I've learned it pays more to specialize in stuff vs. trying to do everything. So I don't work on cars that much anymore...
GL, hope things work out. I agree that building a shop car that hits the track all the time is a step in the right direction. And having your own car that's also badass (read, turbo and unusually fast) is also a good idea. If a year from now you took your car and the shop car to the track 10-12 times a year, that would look good and probably help get your business going.
'nother though- When I was 16 and running my thunderbird at the track, I met several people there that helped me tune the carb, adjust the timing, taught me how to read the tree and launch, etc. Learned a lot, met a lot of great people that knew what how to go fast reliably, and ended up doing business with a couple of them. One of them owns a local speed shop and I bought a set of heads from him, and ordered several things from him over the last 5 years. And that's all cause he was the guy with the 5 seconds mustang I raced at the track (1/8 mile).
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Just become a man and build a wheel pulling 8 second domestic pussy :-*
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IMO you can't establish your business with a car, or four cars, or anything like that. A lot of businesses that are sales and service oriented take 5+ years to get established. You have to make it happen too. It takes a shitload of dedication and a desire to succeed, and you have to know what you're doing. If you do something and business is boominig in 3 months, odds are it's temporary and will fall off in 3 months. It takes time to become established as the shop to take your lawn mower to, or the shop to have your honda tuned at, whatever.
it helps to show people that you are capable. And by being capable, i mean you have cars displaying your work. If there is a car that is constantly beat on and still holds together, i believe that shows a bit of what your made of.
I agree. Seriously.
All I was saying is that one car or four cars, etc, no one thing you do is going to get anythinig "establisihed". Over time, all your efforts will pay off though. If you builid some shop car that hits the strip 12 times a year for 3 years and becomes "known" to be that honda that's fast and reliaible, great. That will certainly help, along with everything else.
I've worked on cars on the side for the last 6-7 years. At first, it was hard to find any work. Now work finds me. Hell, I was working on a construction site with people I've never seen before during thanksgiving and a guy I was working with asked me if I was the Pat that worked on cars, he needed some work done on his camry. Just one example, but that's the result of doing it for several years. When I first started, I did work too cheap thinking it was the right thing to do. Meh, looking back, I should have charged more sometimes. I've learned it pays more to specialize in stuff vs. trying to do everything. So I don't work on cars that much anymore...
GL, hope things work out. I agree that building a shop car that hits the track all the time is a step in the right direction. And having your own car that's also badass (read, turbo and unusually fast) is also a good idea. If a year from now you took your car and the shop car to the track 10-12 times a year, that would look good and probably help get your business going.
'nother though- When I was 16 and running my thunderbird at the track, I met several people there that helped me tune the carb, adjust the timing, taught me how to read the tree and launch, etc. Learned a lot, met a lot of great people that knew what how to go fast reliably, and ended up doing business with a couple of them. One of them owns a local speed shop and I bought a set of heads from him, and ordered several things from him over the last 5 years. And that's all cause he was the guy with the 5 seconds mustang I raced at the track (1/8 mile).
i understand your point of view. Thanks for posting.
I'm tuning a pretty clean crx tomorrow. His friend who has been helping put it together is a d series turbo guy and wants me to tune his once he is done. Says he wants to turn his EF into AWD with the wagovan drivetrain and throw some boost on it. Just needs help with the tune. Hopefully these two cars will help out some since this guy with the crx actually tracks the car.
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clean damn car. Gonna be a great for the street.
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a little anti-lag
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Short 2-3 gear burst
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FUCK YOU JD
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You call and text and never tell me wtf it is you want, specifically, and it sounds like a hassle so I don't respond. I repeatedly texted asking what you wanted - so you'd just call.
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You call and text and never tell me wtf it is you want, specifically, and it sounds like a hassle so I don't respond. I repeatedly texted asking what you wanted - so you'd just call.
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since you are the wizard, you should know what i wanted. I your old age, im guessing your memory is fading because when you say "I see", that isnt asking what i wanted. :)
I made a simple statement that it didnt want shit for timing and you said "welcome to the world of high CR". Wtf lol.
I'll just call from now on.
asshole.
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You call and text and never tell me wtf it is you want, specifically, and it sounds like a hassle so I don't respond. I repeatedly texted asking what you wanted - so you'd just call.
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since you are the wizard, you should know what i wanted. I your old age, im guessing your memory is fading because when you say "I see", that isnt asking what i wanted. :)
I made a simple statement that it didnt want shit for timing and you said "welcome to the world of high CR". Wtf lol.
I'll just call from now on.
asshole.
Welcome to the JD inner circle.
:noel: :yes:
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is that a gay sex scandal type of ring?
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Rule number 1.
Those in the inner circle do not talk about the inner circle.
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I made a simple statement that it didnt want shit for timing and you said "welcome to the world of high CR". Wtf lol.
Well what else can you say to such a statement? I'd given you the same reply.
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I made a simple statement that it didnt want shit for timing and you said "welcome to the world of high CR". Wtf lol.
Well what else can you say to such a statement? I'd given you the same reply.
yea but you are mexican so i would expect you not to understand english.
:mexi:
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JDSAP(JD SUCKS A PENIS)
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JDSAP(JD SUCKS A PENIS)
measure my cranks fucker ;D
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Northstar Fiero > Ecotech Fiero
D16+S/C+He351>Northstar Fiero > Ecotech Fiero
Fiero = "burning piece of metal" in Latin America (thats is why no latino would drive, steal or even look at at one of those) ;D
Fiero= "pride" in Italian (Pontiac was so proud of them that they canceled these cars after redesigning the suspension and steering, and making only 5200 cars.