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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: weirtech on March 24, 2009, 09:37:28 AM

Title: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on March 24, 2009, 09:37:28 AM
just waiting for the intercooler so i can get this car out of the shop.
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Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: Zeniceguycrx on March 24, 2009, 09:49:09 AM
HOT
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Post by: junkyard racer on March 24, 2009, 10:27:25 AM
jesus. sexy.
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Post by: marcj on March 24, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
noodles
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Post by: MantisX on March 24, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
Can I put my dick on it?
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Post by: Toysrme on March 27, 2009, 11:28:34 PM
looking better and better all the time!
profile width overall is dead on so im bettin you're getting closer and closer to 100% pen every weld now.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: g_shok on March 28, 2009, 01:53:00 AM
grade A canadian welding
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Post by: Loki on March 28, 2009, 01:18:24 PM
Amazing.
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Post by: Sinister on March 28, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
If you don't mind my asking, how much does something like that run one of your customers? Sick as hell man I always love your shit  :noel:
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Post by: Conceptz-X on March 28, 2009, 09:35:05 PM
fuck I need to go get me a tig again
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Post by: turbo4life on April 06, 2009, 12:06:28 AM
love it! espicially the wg dump tube to the ground
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 01, 2009, 09:47:20 AM
quoted from the owner off another forum:

I pieced most of my kit together some local parts others from the states... ems' are going for a good price these days. My manifold was custom but Aaron @ Weirtech he is a local member he kept the jig of the manifold to build others. No oil relocation kit needed.  Then i had all my install done at Advance Power House and couldn't be happier.

Brian is very knowledgeable with S2000's he has his own turboed one also. He has also has an in house dyno. One thing i really recommend  you get, are the Injector Dynamics Injectors my car idles like stock runs like stock absolutely amazing.

I'm currently putting down 422 at 12 Psi on a stock block never touched, with my exhaust restricting a bit. Over the winter I'm going to pick up the Inline Pro 3 Inch and retune should net my hopefully 440-450 at the same psi. We reached 487 at 14 psi but because of the exhaust felt it was safer to run at 12 for now.
 Brian is an amazing tuner/installer he owns the shop but does almost all the work himself and is extremely patient.


Heres a pic of my engine bay

(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b5/mikey8/P1010694.jpg)
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: CSaddict on October 01, 2009, 10:20:57 AM
Fitment is nice. I would be concerned of warrantying the wrapped mani though.... :-\  That is asking for trouble.  Not so much the welds but the material itself. I have seen wrapped sch 10 crack in the middle of 90's when the EGTs are clearly through the roof! I guess if the tune is on it may not be an issue. Making nice numbers! Having demand for the S2k stuff? Nice to have a jig so you can bang them out. Once those S2k guys see that set I would imagine you are going to be lining them up!
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: 90boostdaccord on October 01, 2009, 10:47:23 AM
that thing is sick, good work aaron.
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Post by: SloS13 on October 01, 2009, 10:58:19 AM
that's probably better than I could do.  I bow to your greatness.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 01, 2009, 12:09:14 PM
yeah, i asked him to take the wrap off.  i'd like him to come back so i can make a support brace too.

no, people are not lined up for stuff with me.  i'm not trying to get people lined up, i want to avoid that so i don't get too far behind.  i have enough work right now.  i just finished a bmw m3 exhaust for a customer who is going to be selling them, so now i have to build 2 more.  then i have a bunch more smaller jobs on the go as well.  it sucks when i'm the only one doing the welding.  i've been working day and night the past week, and i plan on trying to keep up the pace because i'm not making enough money at this stuff.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 01, 2009, 12:46:45 PM
i charge $65/hour, but if i charged that for a manifold that takes me 25 hours to build (+ material cost), there is no way i'd be able to sell it.  you have to consider what the customer is going to be willing to pay for something.

this bmw exhaust i just made for a customer, he has his own website where he wants to sell his OWN products rather than importing stuff like magnaflow or something and selling their stuff.  it took me more than 30 hours to make the prototype and the jig for it and i can't sell it for $2000+ when he is turning around and trying to make a profit selling them online to his customers when you can buy ready made exhausts like magnaflow, or borla for around $800-$1500.  that is part of the inherent problem with doing custom work... when someone comes to you and wants something they can already buy for cheap from a mass producing chinese knockoff company there is just no way you can do it.  that is why most of the setups i sell are one offs.  the s2000 manifold i'd do again for $1250, but why would someone buy it if they can get a full race for a few bucks more?
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: turbob16hatch on October 01, 2009, 01:17:37 PM
arron looking good. i remember how much of a pain in the ass it was when i built an s2000 sidewinder manifold. trying to retain a/c and oem oil filter is tricky.

Now get back on the crx project.   :yes:
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on October 01, 2009, 03:08:36 PM
Curious... DId ya brace the WG dump somewhere??? 

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Post by: MantisX on October 01, 2009, 04:13:17 PM
Your stuff looks better than full race.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 01, 2009, 06:24:58 PM
Curious... DId ya brace the WG dump somewhere??? 



no.  it may break down the road.  if it does, i'll fix it.  i fixed my first broken one last week off a jetta, but it was mild steel.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: FreshDA9 on October 02, 2009, 02:57:40 AM
Damn really turning alot of work out on those F20/22 motors! great work bro!
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Post by: t_cel_t on October 02, 2009, 03:06:03 AM
Your stuff looks better than full race.
he does good work but he cant compete with a robot
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: MantisX on October 02, 2009, 11:15:00 AM
What does the robot do thats so much better? Is it the strength of the welds? Id rather pay the human.
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Post by: dvst8r on October 02, 2009, 11:41:11 AM
What does the robot do thats so much better?...

Consistency.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: t_cel_t on October 02, 2009, 12:29:41 PM
properly set up the robot makes the inside penetration look about as good as the outside, holds a perfect arc length, equal application of filler, ect
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: AstroVannin on October 02, 2009, 12:54:15 PM
the s2000 manifold i'd do again for $1250, but why would someone buy it if they can get a full race for a few bucks more?

Weirtech > Full Race ?

Sounds like a solid reason.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: speedjunky01 on October 02, 2009, 02:52:11 PM
does the wrap really do that much harm to a manifold??

either way awesome work!
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Post by: Jorsher on October 02, 2009, 04:10:10 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 02, 2009, 04:25:40 PM
does the wrap really do that much harm to a manifold??

either way awesome work!

yes it does.  it holds the heat in and overheats the material to the point of structural failure.  ceramic coating will do the same thing if it is not coated inside and out.  corky bell talks about it in maximum boost.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: speedjunky01 on October 02, 2009, 04:31:22 PM
does the wrap really do that much harm to a manifold??

either way awesome work!

yes it does.  it holds the heat in and overheats the material to the point of structural failure.  ceramic coating will do the same thing if it is not coated inside and out.  corky bell talks about it in maximum boost.

yeah on a long hard drive i could see it doing that, makes sence metal over heats becomes brittle and cracks.

Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: HiProfile on October 03, 2009, 02:35:37 AM
If you look up the phase chart for steels at various temps, even 1400F isn't nearly as bad as one might think. And that assumes that the r-value of the wrap is ideal, loosing zero heat to the outside. Stainless doesn't absorb heat as quickly as regular steel (~1/2), and you can't heat a container beyond the internal medium, at least not with the minimal friction air creates. The main problem is the heat causing it to loose it's ability to resist corrosion, but with turbo engines, you have practically zero reactive gas (mainly oxygen) left in the exhaust.

I've ran 2 manifolds using mild steel, cast steel, and cast iron with lots of heat wrap, and haven't had any cracking issues. And this is from me doing "sloppy" mig welds by not pre-heating the cast metals. The fact is that most people with such expensive manifolds won't drive their cars often enough to worry about heat. I'd guess that Corkey Bell was refering to all-out racing applications. Honestly though, Honda guys don't daily drive their 400whp vehicles as often as Evo owners.


Back on topic, manifold looks tits. You are definately the Tony1 of RHMT. :P
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: ryan89crx on October 03, 2009, 01:18:14 PM
I've ran 2 manifolds using mild steel, cast steel, and cast iron with lots of heat wrap, and haven't had any cracking issues. And this is from me doing "sloppy" mig welds by not pre-heating the cast metals
exact same scenario with mine, lol
Title: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: D.Alomb on October 08, 2009, 03:18:31 AM
Awesome pics.

One question about the intake manifold, are you worried about diff intake velocities between the two velocity stacks being the way the air enters the plenum?
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: Corey on October 08, 2009, 04:01:03 AM
did i miss something or did someone post an intake manifold?
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Post by: CSaddict on October 08, 2009, 05:59:35 AM
That was on his post on Honduh Tek.
Title: Re: s2k equal length manifold setup
Post by: weirtech on October 08, 2009, 08:51:26 AM
did i miss something or did someone post an intake manifold?

actually, said manifold can be seen in my crx thread.