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General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: Annihilator on March 07, 2009, 03:48:14 PM

Title: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 07, 2009, 03:48:14 PM
Hey all, I'm new to the RHMT...I used to lurk on HMT but figured I'd register here.  Here's a few pics of my build:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Civic%20hatch/100_0410.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Civic%20hatch/100_4417.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Civic%20hatch/100_4418.jpg)

and it's all going into this:

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Civic%20hatch/100_0418.jpg)

It's really nothing that special, but here's the info:

Motor is a b18b1
9:1 ross pistons with eagle h-beams
ARP head studs and rod bolts
Cometic head gasket
81.5mm bore
stock head with 3-angle valve job and cleaned up
RC 440cc injectors
Hondata s300 on a p28 ECU

Turbo stuff:
Mitsubishi 16g rebuilt by TRE (DSM company), it's very port/polished, and has a ridiculous inlet.
some random ramhorn manifold
Tial 38mm wastegate and Tial 50mm BOV


The build is mainly going for an autocross/road course based setup, hence the small-ish turbo.

 I'll update with more pictures later.

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Burntrubber87 on March 07, 2009, 04:05:19 PM
Like the color, and rims
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: n2o_2k on March 07, 2009, 04:09:08 PM
Pics of the engine bay.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 07, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Pics of the engine bay.

lol you really don't want to see the engine bay right now...the build is still in progress.  I have the engine on a stand in my kitchen at the moment haha.  I'm pretty close to being ready for it to go in...all I lack now are some random DSM turbo parts, oil drain/feed lines for the turbo, a clutch, starter, and distributor...and an OBD conversion for hondata.

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Spanish-rice on March 07, 2009, 06:39:46 PM
i like that color, and whered you get that mint ass 16g i like it
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on March 07, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
you gonna run stock cams?
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: QikEnuF on March 07, 2009, 08:10:34 PM

lol you really don't want to see the engine bay right now...the build is still in progress.  I have the engine on a stand in my kitchen at the moment haha. 

Picks or ban  :P
Glad I'm not the only one who rebuilds shit near the fridge.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: ratcityrex on March 07, 2009, 08:11:55 PM
good cams, and upgrade the springs anf the LS will come alive.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: n2o_2k on March 07, 2009, 08:12:37 PM
Pics of the engine bay.

lol you really don't want to see the engine bay right now...the build is still in progress.  I have the engine on a stand in my kitchen at the moment haha.  I'm pretty close to being ready for it to go in...all I lack now are some random DSM turbo parts, oil drain/feed lines for the turbo, a clutch, starter, and distributor...and an OBD conversion for hondata.

 - Steven
what's wrong with ubermoma, crome, ectume ?
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on March 07, 2009, 08:15:02 PM
assuming he already has the hondata so why not use it
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: ratcityrex on March 07, 2009, 08:15:25 PM
sell your hondata and you could then afford to buy all the other suff you need.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: jdmhatchracer94 on March 07, 2009, 08:18:47 PM
word
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: widebody93 on March 07, 2009, 09:21:22 PM
sell your hondata and you could then afford to buy all the other suff you need.
Bullshit

I love Hondata
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 07, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
lol well I got a really good deal on the hondata...it was a fresh chipped p28 with receipt from phearable, with the s300 for 520 shipped haha.  I couldn't pass it up.

About the 16g, I don't know how I caught that turbo, it showed up on ebay one day and it was a very spur of the moment purchase.  It wasn't as cheap as one would expect for a 16g, but according to a few dsm guys, that is a collector turbo since TRE only ran a small amount of those turbos a few years ago.

About the cams, I'm eventually going to put some cams in there, but I have a spare head laying around that I'm going to clean up, maybe smooth out some casting flaws in the ports, put some oversized valves and cams...and obviously springs/retainers.  For now though, I'm ready to just finish it up and get it running.

Thanks for all the comments guys  :)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Civic%20hatch/100_0364.jpg)

That was before the rebuild and clean-up.  It's not so nasty looking now, but it's sitting in the same spot haha

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Krash on March 08, 2009, 05:39:14 AM
I can't wait to see it together and in person, the kitchen is a mess, but you reposted a pic of the car, fail. :P
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 08, 2009, 05:55:36 AM
fixed picture.  Photobucket works differently in google chrome vs. firefox.  no auto-copying lol
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 09, 2009, 05:20:12 PM
I need some info guys...all of the helpful threads got moved to the OG section so I can't see it.

What should I do for an oil drain/feed setup?  Also, my turbo is able to run coolant lines as well...but I'm not sure if I want to.  I know I don't absolutely need to, but if I do decide to run coolant lines, how do I go about doing that?

Oh yeah, and what does everyone do about excessive oil pressure going to the turbo, I know there is some restriction valve that drops the pressure, but where do I get one at?

Thanks for the help guys/gals.

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: CSaddict on March 09, 2009, 05:48:59 PM
Your oil line return should be purchased from www.stealthmodeperformance.com (http://) Best in the business.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 09, 2009, 05:52:56 PM
Thanks for that link.  I see they also have the oil restrictor for sale in there, so I'll have to get both of those.

Sorry for the noob questions...that was one piece of the build I couldn't ever decide what to do about.

I still don't see why they moved so many of the informative threads to the OG section though :(
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: glustic on March 09, 2009, 08:06:36 PM
Like the color, and rims

+1
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: glustic on March 09, 2009, 08:13:52 PM
I need some info guys...all of the helpful threads got moved to the OG section so I can't see it.

What should I do for an oil drain/feed setup?  Also, my turbo is able to run coolant lines as well...but I'm not sure if I want to.  I know I don't absolutely need to, but if I do decide to run coolant lines, how do I go about doing that?

Oh yeah, and what does everyone do about excessive oil pressure going to the turbo, I know there is some restriction valve that drops the pressure, but where do I get one at?

Thanks for the help guys/gals.

 - Steven
I bought a water kit from Tuner Toys that shows you exactly how to set it up, and I won't be using it as I sold the turbo. It will fit the turbo you have now, I had a TD05HR evo 8 turbo. Anyways if you want the kit, I'll sell it to you for $30 + shipping. That is the exact kit I bought, its brand new! So basically your saving $20 + shipping buying it from me. Lemme know.

http://www.tunertoys.com/TunerToys_Water_Line_Turbochargers_p/wlk14.htm (http://www.tunertoys.com/TunerToys_Water_Line_Turbochargers_p/wlk14.htm)
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 09, 2009, 11:02:43 PM
Glustic, if you still have those lines next week, I'll send you money.  I'm going on my first track day at Hallett raceway near Tulsa, Oklahoma, so I need to be minimal on my spending until I make sure the car gets back in one piece.  I'm trying to get some race rubber mounted on some new wheels that came in today, so I'll post a couple track day pictures provided it makes it in one piece after this weekend  :yes:

and yes, cocoa pebbles FTW haha

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Logan76 on March 10, 2009, 12:20:13 AM
Looks like your wastegate is on there backwards man, the other flange is the one you want bolted to your manifold.

You need an Oil restrictor, Ive seen guys make there own, and Ive seen nitrous jets used, but you could just buy one theyre not mad expensive. I would find out what size the thread on the 16G oil inlet is (10x1.5mm)  and then search for a restrictor with that thread.


I'm going to assume your running a -3 an feedline, a 16G doesnt need -4an.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: glustic on March 10, 2009, 12:32:37 AM
Glustic, if you still have those lines next week, I'll send you money.  I'm going on my first track day at Hallett raceway near Tulsa, Oklahoma, so I need to be minimal on my spending until I make sure the car gets back in one piece.  I'm trying to get some race rubber mounted on some new wheels that came in today, so I'll post a couple track day pictures provided it makes it in one piece after this weekend  :yes:

and yes, cocoa pebbles FTW haha

 - Steven
Ill save them for you. Hit me up with a PM when you are ready to buy. GL at the track! Make sure you get us some pics and or video! That EK is gonna look sick at the track! I would also take Logan76s recommendation and run an oil restrictor.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 10, 2009, 02:06:13 AM
Alright I appreciate it glustic.  I'll definitely give you a shout after this weekend.

Logan, thanks for the tip lol, I had a feeling that might be the case after looking through a bunch of these build threads...I didn't think it was possible to fit it in that direction, but evidently it is.

Thanks again for all the positive comments guys, a build like this would probably not fly on H-T because of my color selection and not-so-jdm-ness lol

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Logan76 on March 10, 2009, 07:20:23 AM
I say fuck JDM and H-T, you have a nice ass build going on man, with the 16G and EWG your going to see some really nice spool up time.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Urban Indian on March 10, 2009, 07:41:02 AM
popped my virginity on this one right here. First ever poster


(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s248/Urban_Indian/motivator4896570.jpg)
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 10, 2009, 01:26:21 PM
^^ lol that's fuckin awesome dude.  One thing that makes it slightly more entertaining is that there is no turbo on the motor in that picture  ;D
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Rosario4124 on March 10, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
popped my virginity on this one right here. First ever poster


(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s248/Urban_Indian/motivator4896570.jpg)

hahaha
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: lilpooh21186 on March 10, 2009, 04:40:27 PM
what year is your car i have a 0bd2b-0bd1 harness
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 11, 2009, 01:51:19 AM
It's an obd2a car....96 model.  The front end just has the 99-00 conversion on it from the previous owner :(  it's misaligned like a mofo too.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: ShoofIsLudin on March 11, 2009, 02:10:03 PM
I like ur EK.  The misalignment can be fixed in a weekend when u get drunk and bored enough to wanna fix it.


Since Orange Chicken was associated with HMT....is Cocoa Pebbles the official RHMT meal of the day???
lol

popped my virginity on this one right here. First ever poster


(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s248/Urban_Indian/motivator4896570.jpg)
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: confUsed on March 11, 2009, 04:28:22 PM


The build is mainly going for an autocross/road course based setup, hence the small-ish turbo.

Awesome thread! Good to see there's more people here hitting the road course. Remember to bring the camera!  :yes:
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 15, 2009, 07:29:14 PM
Just a couple from this weekend...

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Hallett%20March%202009/2663_531629668296_57507242_32306424.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Hallett%20March%202009/2663_531633031556_57507242_32306734.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Hallett%20March%202009/2663_531628520596_57507242_32306382.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Hallett%20March%202009/2663_531632422776_57507242_32306696.jpg)

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/Annihilator95/Hallett%20March%202009/hallett09_90.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/AWDBus/Hallett%202009/TrackMapLarge.jpg)

I had an absolute blast this weekend.  The ecsta v710s are grippy as hell with some temperature in them.  I desperately needed more power for the straightaways..I was pulling away from a new GTR in the turns, but then the straights came up and it was game over.  The only problem I had was I smoked the hell out of my brakes.  I need to figure out some way to keep from doing that, that doesn't involve not using the brakes.

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: 95teg on March 16, 2009, 12:41:57 PM
thats awesome.

as for the brakes, make some rhmt brake ducts
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 16, 2009, 01:28:20 PM
That is exactly what I was thinking at the track.  Delete the foglights and run some dryer hose from the front bumper to my brakes.  Although when I get the swap in, I won't be able to run hoses from the foglight holes because of intercooler piping.  I'll have to cross that bridge when I get there.

I highly recommend a track day for anyone that likes any kind of racing.  Most fun I've ever had in a car.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: HiProfile on March 16, 2009, 02:03:09 PM
ITR/Accord Wagon calipers, shaved 23T brackets, redrilled Prelude VTEC 11.1" rotors (10.3" EX for DX hubs), better pads. They'll stay cooler (more mass & fin area) & offer more power if you need too.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 16, 2009, 02:37:01 PM
^^ I have no clue how to go about doing that, but my first question is will that setup be able to retain the 4x100 lug pattern, and will it fit inside a set of 15" wheels?  I ask because both sets of wheels I have are 4x100 15" wheels.

I appreciate the help guys.

edit - What year accord wagon should I look for?  And is there any year prelude in specific?  I may go with this setup if I can find the right parts.  Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: glustic on March 16, 2009, 02:44:45 PM
Dude that is a sick ass track! Awesome! I cant wait to track my car.
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: confUsed on March 16, 2009, 03:58:43 PM
Looks like a fast, fun track :)

Whats your current brake setup? If you are on stock stuff, get some pads and fresh brake fluid that's made for tracking, it'll do a lot better. If you're on the 9.5" rotors, you should get som ebigger stuff. Fastbrakes.com has some kits made for both the 9.5 and 10.2 rotors, that lets you rund itr rotors and calippers, thats not too pricey. You have to redrill the rotors to get the 4x100 pattern. You can run itr rotors (I think they are like 11") with 15" wheels. But of course if you have junkyards around you with the parts you need, that is the best deal  :somb:

BTW, there is a vw with the same sized rotors as itr, but with a 4x100 pattern too, if you are not keen on redrilling. I have seen peole running them. I never remember which model, though. Might be corrado :p

Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: Annihilator on March 16, 2009, 05:23:02 PM
Thanks for the comments guys.  It's definitely a fun track.  The aerial view is a bit deceiving however, it's not as fast as you'd think.  I think the max speed I was able to reach was between 80 and 85 mph.  Keep in mind though, I only have a bone stock exhaust leaking d16y7 on the dx 5-speed transmission.  The higher hp guys were peaking at 120ish.

Brake wise, I'm on stock blank rotors from oreilleys, Hawk HP+ pads, motul rbf 600 fluid, and SS front brake lines (rears wouldn't seal, so I ran the stock ones).  My main problem is that those r-compounds have so much grip, I can push the brakes way harder...which caused my overheating the rotors issue.  We will see what I can do about this.  I might do a ghetto rig brake ducting setup first and see if I can keep them from overheating then.

 - Steven
Title: Re: Annihilator's LS-T build for an EK hatch
Post by: crxvtec91 on March 16, 2009, 05:44:19 PM
ITR/Accord Wagon calipers, shaved 23T brackets, redrilled Prelude VTEC 11.1" rotors (10.3" EX for DX hubs), better pads. They'll stay cooler (more mass & fin area) & offer more power if you need too.

It will fit some 15" rims but not all. It fit my Ls rims no problem.I did just the brakes calipers, still running gsr disc's and could feel a big difference even with crappy pads.