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Title: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 14, 2010, 07:57:12 AM
hi nogs, from australia

1998 holden rodeo tray.

2.8l turbo diesel 4jb1t, 5s, 4x4, LSD

stock turbo is an ihi rhf5 (ultra tiny, i get full pressure (9psi lol) at 1300rpm in 4th....)  Jew

mods:
cdm cooler, 2.5" dp exhaust and chargepipes, in cabin mbc, boost pyro drive pressure gauges, removed rear canopy and the a/c, moved battery and coolant tank, 30 x 9" bfg a/ts, homemade catchcan,

7 rattle cans of flat black paint
50,000 zip ties


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before shot

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stock motor  :'(

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fluxcore 2.5" dp, cast to mild  :D

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you like?
all junkyard exhaust, 2 straight thru mufflers from diesel ford van, reused hangers from old exhaust

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when tapping ex mani for drive pressure gauge and pyro, found i couldnt turn the tap wrench.....

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until i grabbed a 1/4" extension, perfect fit!

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during mock up

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cdm cooler and homemade piping, flat black, 2.5" mild, all fluxcore welded. airbox is from a junkyard daihatsu charade hatchback lol

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engine bay side, cut 4" hole in bottom of airbox for flow...

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ve pump, looking back from radiator

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cooler mount bracket visible behind number plate


it was an epically long project, glad this part is done.

next up: bigger turbo tdo4l from wrx, turn up the pump (bosch ve pump by zexel japan), 20psi, steel front bumper, more pics

any q's etc welcome.  8)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: 92CXyD on April 14, 2010, 11:19:38 AM
I like this. ;D

Are you posting any ripper vids or off road vids when you get the bigger turbo on that?

Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 14, 2010, 12:13:21 PM
Looks like there is lots of room for twins. Do you know what the plunger size is in the VE?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: crxvtec91 on April 14, 2010, 12:14:58 PM
That mani looks super restrictive. I like :yes:
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: ochoa on April 14, 2010, 02:47:39 PM
stealth sleeper black FTW
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 14, 2010, 06:13:44 PM
Looks like there is lots of room for twins. Do you know what the plunger size is in the VE?


i havent even touched the pump yet. my plan is to crank the boost in the stock 38/52mm turbo to a bit less than choke point, and a bit more mid range and top end fuel.

boost currently 15psi, drive 21 psi max
 
yes, there is heaps of room in there, if i do twins it could be garrett t04 over 42/52mm mitsu td04l. perhaps. any suggestions.

also looking at a he341ve as a single but worried about comp surge....

cheers
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 14, 2010, 06:35:35 PM
Sounds like you are already at the max for the stock turbo. I would be wiling to be with any more boost just comes a ton more drive, and you aren't far off of 1:2 already.

If you are going to do twins with the td04l, I would look at the HE351 60mm, or an HX-40, as the HE351cw might be a touch restrictive on the exhaust side as a primary. HE351VE would work, but you would have to either get the vanes to work (something like aero did) or just set them at a fixed position.

I wonder if you pump has gov springs like a vw, or like a cummins. Either way that would be one of the first things I would do, is mod the gov for more rpm, add some fuel, bump the timing an 1/8" or so, and evaluate from there.

Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 14, 2010, 07:02:09 PM
Sounds like you are already at the max for the stock turbo. I would be wiling to be with any more boost just comes a ton more drive, and you aren't far off of 1:2 already.

If you are going to do twins with the td04l, I would look at the HE351 60mm, or an HX-40, as the HE351cw might be a touch restrictive on the exhaust side as a primary. HE351VE would work, but you would have to either get the vanes to work (something like aero did) or just set them at a fixed position.

I wonder if you pump has gov springs like a vw, or like a cummins. Either way that would be one of the first things I would do, is mod the gov for more rpm, add some fuel, bump the timing an 1/8" or so, and evaluate from there.



thanks dvst8r.
time for a street tune today, more fuel should help. ill read up about the timing advance.
im not keen to turn more rpms, it happily revs to over 4k stock, just zero tq above 3400 - drive pressure climbs fast. 4400 rev limit stock.

would a hx35 with 14cm hsg work well for a primary? might have access to one...

 :noel:
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: brine04 on April 14, 2010, 07:23:08 PM
at what rpm does it start to defuel?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: SloS13 on April 14, 2010, 07:36:05 PM
Great to see anything out of the norm on here.  Wish the US got small diesel pickups
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 14, 2010, 08:07:55 PM
Do you know what the plunger size is in the VE?

at what rpm does it start to defuel?

4 cyl

11mm plunger, and as per pump serial number, "governer controlled rpm number" is 1900rpm. i do not know what this means.

has mechanical governer

pump s/n: NP-VE 4/11F1900LNP1685

any clues about the governer number?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 14, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
HX-35 14cm if it is cheap will work just fine, you can always do a 60mm compressor wheel upgrade if it is limiting you.

1900rpm is pump speed so x 2 for motor speed 3800rpm is where is should start to defuel. I would mod the gov springs so you can at least pull full fuel to 5K. Heck I run stock cummins to 4K, and stock vw td's to 6K.

Adjusting the timing should be nothing more then loosening the front 3 bolts, and then one rear bolt, and pushing it the whole pump towards the head. Might need a ratchet strap, as some times they are sticky.

Back the high rpm screw right out and throw it away, and as you add fuel pull the low rpm screw out to bring the idle back down. Adjust the throttle cable and linkage for full travel.

Pop the top off the ip 4 flat head screws, and index the pin for max depth, shave the nylon washer so that it travels all the way to the deepest point. When you get it apart you will see what I mean, as there will be a rub mark on the pin, use that as a guide for which way to turn it. **Should be so that max depth is towards the Rad** but I have never worked on that particular setup so it may vary.

Dave (Passenger) has made 200whp on a 9mm 4cyl pump. With the 11mm pump maxed out you should be close to 400hp worth of fuel. Stock 12mm VE's on 1st gen cummins will move nearly 500hp of fuel maxed out

If it doesn't already have one, add a lift pump now, set it so the pump sees 15psi or so. This is very important.

If you really want to make some power, I would look at an HY35 with an external gate over something in the 64mm range. The TD04l over an HX-35-14 should be good for 300hp at reasonable egt's and 350hp+ if you ignore the egt gauge. Or you could aways spray it at that point.  O0
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 14, 2010, 09:28:01 PM

 I would mod the gov springs so you can at least pull full fuel to 5K.

If it doesn't already have one, add a lift pump now, set it so the pump sees 15psi or so. This is very important.



in reality i will only ever rev it to 3700ish anyway, and prob not regularly.

i saw a youtube video and a tech writeup, timing bump, turning fuel cone pin, and star wheel look easy to change.

diagram was useful
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i'll remove the high rpm throttle stop pronto.

can i use an inline efi fuel pump with external reg for a lift pump? seems easy to make.....

junkyard bosch 044 here i come.  O0 
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 14, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
Yup, an efi fuel pump with an external reg works great.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: drivin96 on April 14, 2010, 10:43:30 PM
tire jack stands ftw

Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 15, 2010, 12:33:47 AM
tire jack stands ftw



thats damn right, i even have 4x4 wheels for extra height when needed !!  :mexi:

Yup, an efi fuel pump with an external reg works great.

thanks.

 if a lift pump not added and the inj pump turned right up, what are some bad things that may happen? damage to ip's internal vane pump?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 15, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
Outright IP fail, it can damage the camplate, and seize the pump.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: onlyflash944 on April 15, 2010, 02:39:14 PM
love the jack stands.  they won't ever fail or creel out from under you
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Random Hero on April 15, 2010, 03:34:03 PM
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Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 15, 2010, 04:34:52 PM
Outright IP fail, it can damage the camplate, and seize the pump.

shit  :-X

ill get right onto it then.

I like! Subscribed!

thanks rossnog  O0
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Random Hero on April 15, 2010, 05:48:13 PM
I'm all about diesel, and man i wish we had more small diesel engines around here. Only thing i can get my hands on thats worth a shit is the 4bt/6bt/isb cummins..
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: onlyflash944 on April 15, 2010, 05:50:18 PM
i've fooled around with several roosamaster db2 injection pumps, and have never seen one sieze up.  however, it isn't ouside the realm of possibility, i would just say highly unlikely.

the 6.5l canister style lift pumps can be had new for $80ish or you can go to advance and buy the little green (mr. gasket i think) ones for 50.  should be enough for what you are doing, but if it doesn't have a lift pump, then you are asking for trouble later on.  think of how much stress you take off the IP when you have at least a small pressure from the lift pump on the intake side of the IP.  as far as a return, i don't know much about your the isuzu return system, but if there is one after the IP then you shouldn't need a regulator




I'm all about diesel, and man i wish we had more small diesel engines around here. Only thing i can get my hands on thats worth a shit is the 4bt/6bt/isb cummins..

worthless 4bt?  how many are around you and how much are these worthless setups selling for?  i know people that would give good money for a running 4bt swap
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Random Hero on April 15, 2010, 05:51:46 PM
um, i speak english, and i said WORTH A SHIT. you can find them all over for 500-800 dollars. I currently have 1

got mine out of a fritto's lays panel truck. easy to find but no one ever posts them up for sale.

725lbs tho so heavy.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: onlyflash944 on April 15, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
jsut about anything is fixable.  one of my buddies wants one badstyle for his jeep trail rig.  we make biodiesel together in his basement and he has a benz and a 7.3 idi he runs off of grease.  i've looked on craigslist for over a year and never found a fritto's lays truck around this  area, even for sale
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 15, 2010, 05:59:40 PM
i've fooled around with several roosamaster db2 injection pumps, and have never seen one sieze up.  however, it isn't ouside the realm of possibility, i would just say highly unlikely.

the 6.5l canister style lift pumps can be had new for $80ish or you can go to advance and buy the little green (mr. gasket i think) ones for 50.  should be enough for what you are doing, but if it doesn't have a lift pump, then you are asking for trouble later on.  think of how much stress you take off the IP when you have at least a small pressure from the lift pump on the intake side of the IP.  as far as a return, i don't know much about your the isuzu return system, but if there is one after the IP then you shouldn't need a regulator

How often have you asked them to deliver double or more the fuel that they did stock? I have personally burned through 2 VW bosch VE's and 1 cummins bosch VE. They use the excess fuel for cooling and lubricating the ip, and have been witness to several others. My stock vw tdi doesn't come with a lift pump, but I put one on anyway, it is cheap insurance, and it made extra power as the timing piston didn't have to wait for the case pressure to build with rpm's.

Speaking of the timing piston, there is another mod if you get to the point of really wanting to take the pump to the max.

I kinda doubt given that he is from Australia, or somewhere on the opposite side of the world, that he can just run over to advanced.

I prefer having a decent fuel supply, and regulating it down, vs having a soft fuel supply and worry about a bad tank of diesel, leaving water in my filter, and now instead of having 5psi I have 2psi, and vacuum at WOT.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 15, 2010, 08:21:32 PM

 I put one on anyway, it is cheap insurance, and it made extra power as the timing piston didn't have to wait for the case pressure to build with rpm's.


 now instead of having 5psi I have 2psi, and vacuum at WOT.


good advice, thanks.

i dont understand the red bit...?

as far as a return, i don't know much about your the isuzu return system, but if there is one after the IP then you shouldn't need a regulator

ill go have a look right now.  :)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: DRQPQUT on April 15, 2010, 08:38:08 PM
shit looks fun, but we are gonna need some vids ...stat
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 15, 2010, 08:54:04 PM
vids shall come once setup and tuning is done  :D

dvst8r: how is that "fuck a wg" twins setup for the 6bt going? -sexy whitey bends  :noel:

update, went for a 35km drive down the freeway. level road, unloaded, no wind, 12*c.

at 100kph motor turns 2750rpm, 15psi boost, 21ish psi drive. when i nailed the throttle (5th gear) boost started creeping a few psi, drive pressure rose FAST.

silly little turbo.  :-X

egts never go above 450ish*c unloaded, with stock fuelling and timing.

any opinion on a he351ve vgt?

im afraid of comp surge..... only a 2.8l motor

i can control the vains easily, and id not run a wg, exhaust hsg should be big enough, vain position and topend fuelling would control the boost i think.

ideas??

 :)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 15, 2010, 10:09:56 PM

 I put one on anyway, it is cheap insurance, and it made extra power as the timing piston didn't have to wait for the case pressure to build with rpm's.


 now instead of having 5psi I have 2psi, and vacuum at WOT.



Sorry let me clarify. So instead of having 5psi at idle, you now have 2psi from the clogged filter, and instead of having positive pressure at WOT you now have vacuum.  VS a higher pressure pump capable of a lot more pressure and volume with an external regulator. Where at idle you have 15psi, WOT you have 15psi, partially clogged filter 15psi ect...
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 15, 2010, 10:17:53 PM
vids shall come once setup and tuning is done  :D

dvst8r: how is that "fuck a wg" twins setup for the 6bt going? -sexy whitey bends  :noel:

update, went for a 35km drive down the freeway. level road, unloaded, no wind, 12*c.

at 100kph motor turns 2750rpm, 15psi boost, 21ish psi drive. when i nailed the throttle (5th gear) boost started creeping a few psi, drive pressure rose FAST.

silly little turbo.  :-X

egts never go above 450ish*c unloaded, with stock fuelling and timing.

any opinion on a he351ve vgt?

im afraid of comp surge..... only a 2.8l motor

i can control the vains easily, and id not run a wg, exhaust hsg should be big enough, vain position and topend fuelling would control the boost i think.

ideas??

 :)


The twins are on hold I stole the primary, to use as a secondary on another set (up coming thread, probably in June or so) Probably will have another twin setup done in between those two as well. Lots on the go these days.

Yup, sounds like the tiny turbo is too tiny.

I think the HE351VE would be a little much as a single, it would probably just light, and you would be out of rev's, or have like a 1000rpm power band. As a primary with that td04l secondary it should work well.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 16, 2010, 07:39:59 AM

Sorry let me clarify. So instead of having 5psi at idle, you now have 2psi from the clogged filter, and instead of having positive pressure at WOT you now have vacuum.  VS a higher pressure pump capable of a lot more pressure and volume with an external regulator. Where at idle you have 15psi, WOT you have 15psi, partially clogged filter 15psi ect...

makes sense. ill do it next couple of weeks.

update today, removed gas pedal stop screw and high rpm limit screw from ip. turned the fuel pin 1/8th of a turn toward the skinny bit, cranked down starwheel 1 turn. had to turn the idle down alot. still no smoke, but pulls noticably harder in the midrange  :)

tomorrow more fuel pin and star wheel  :evil:

a 20 second long wot pull in top gear gave egts of about 600ish *c, had the mbc screwed all the way shut, boost was spiking off the gauge (25psi+++) then tapering to about 12ish psi. spring in mbc is a bit weak me thinks. off to shops in morning for a heavy mofo spring  O0


unluckily, it seems advancing the pump timing will be difficult. the ip is mounted 2 bolts to timing case and 2 bolts solidly to the engine mount. effectively making it bolted in square, so you cant just rock it over toward the head.

i may try shimming the bottom bolts and ovalling the holes out with round file etc...

shit job, oh well.

thanks for the feedback nignogs.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: brine04 on April 16, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
There is a guy on 1stgen.org that has built a timing spacer for the ve's you might look into that. Not sure if it will clear your mount isssue though.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Passenger on April 16, 2010, 11:34:35 AM
Outright IP fail, it can damage the camplate, and seize the pump.

Camplate damage comes from contamination and high rpm float, lack of positive pressure before the vane side of the pump for power ratings over stock can cause excessive vane wear as well as adding to input shaft seal wear which can cause it to suck in air and cause the same problem.

Don't ask me how I know :P
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 16, 2010, 12:48:23 PM
Outright IP fail, it can damage the camplate, and seize the pump.

Camplate damage comes from contamination and high rpm float, lack of positive pressure before the vane side of the pump for power ratings over stock can cause excessive vane wear as well as adding to input shaft seal wear which can cause it to suck in air and cause the same problem.

Don't ask me how I know :P

LOL, speaking of that Andy blew up that 14mm head in short order, but I guess it pushed some massive fuel when it was alive, he saw over 100psi of boost, and only about 110psi drive from what I recall. He has since gone to an 8cyl inline IP, twin feed styles, ala truck puller.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Passenger on April 16, 2010, 03:28:06 PM
Outright IP fail, it can damage the camplate, and seize the pump.

Camplate damage comes from contamination and high rpm float, lack of positive pressure before the vane side of the pump for power ratings over stock can cause excessive vane wear as well as adding to input shaft seal wear which can cause it to suck in air and cause the same problem.

Don't ask me how I know :P

LOL, speaking of that Andy blew up that 14mm head in short order, but I guess it pushed some massive fuel when it was alive, he saw over 100psi of boost, and only about 110psi drive from what I recall. He has since gone to an 8cyl inline IP, twin feed styles, ala truck puller.

Really? Damn I haven't talked to Andy in a while, I was wondering how that 14mm head I sent him would work. Does he post anywhere anymore? I'll have to give him a call.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 16, 2010, 04:13:03 PM
I haven't seen him post in quite sometime, but we do pm from time to time on tdiclub, in fact it is the only reason I go there, just to check to see if he has pm'd. 
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 18, 2010, 08:26:57 AM
Update:

canopy off, toolbox on (cool cat is cool)  8)

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in cabin mbc  :noel:

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old volvo fmic i was going to use, but was too tall. i was too pussy to cut up my car too much  :-\

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mani tapped for drive pressure gauge. 1/8 npt to 1/4 compression fitting, then 1/4 tube to 1/4 push on barb.
had big dramas with the gauge jumping and buzzing, caused by pulsing pressure signal.

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RHMT style solution found: pulse damper

2" pvc pipe and caps, 1/8th bsp to 1/4 hose barb fittings, packed tight with stainless steel wool (aka kitchen scouring pads), plumber's silicone sealer, my favourite flat black paint.  it works very well, gauge needle only mooves smoothly, no pulsing  :)

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mounted next to the homemade catchcan, which has a lawnmower air filter in it, airbox draws on the crankcase through the filter, removing oil etc. works sweet.
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i went out street tuning this arvo with my brother and blew a charge pipe coupler in half! the reason was i put a real heavy spring in homemade mbc and cranked it to the  O0 setting, which spiked to 25+ psi and pipe went bang. it is the elbow off the comp housing, not boost rated, was the stock turbo inlet elbow lol.

new pipe to be made in the morning, ill make it tough!

cranked the star wheel down all the way, and another 1/4 turn of the fuel pin, 1 of 2 nylon fuel pin limit washers removed, throttle cable tightened. far far better throttle response now but still no smoke.

gay tiny turbo is still being a hotrex.

also this ute came with suuper heavy rear leaf springs. stock they have 4 leafs (1 ton payload) this one had 10 leafs, good for 2.5 ton ++++. rides terribly rough and bouncy in the back, and zero traction because it lifts the inside wheel in corners.       

so........

little brother and i ripped spring packs out and made up new combinations of leaves. stock top 3 leafs (curved and thin), then only one bottom load leaf (flat and very thick)  with new centre bolts too.

rides like a dream, for a truck.

arse end sits down on the load leaf with the trailer on and is quite saggy but excellent traction.


more tomorrow.

peace  Jew




Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: onlyflash944 on April 18, 2010, 08:36:43 AM
nice work on the damper for the drive pressure gauge

your bed makes the truck look like a white gator or something
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Phate on April 18, 2010, 11:00:38 AM
utes are so much cooler than what we get for trucks in the states.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: brine04 on April 18, 2010, 12:31:38 PM
I love those truck tub boxes, way more useful than a pickup box. Where is your egt probe?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 18, 2010, 07:23:21 PM
I love those truck tub boxes, way more useful than a pickup box. Where is your egt probe?

i really hate the pickups, my other brother has one, it has wheel arch humps, so very much reduced capacity, useless for carrying shit.

like this riced out shitpile for example  :mexi:

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my tray is strong but super heavy which really keeps the weight on the back end to get traction lol. its made from 3x3" box steel and 2" angle irons underneath. fits 7 mountain bikes standing up, side by side. useful!

egt probe is in the ex mani directly under the drive pressure bung, pointing straight up. it hides behind the turbo oil drain line. ebay cdm special $60  :D

interior plus egt and boost gauges etc

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drive pressure, velcrod to the dash  O0

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 8)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: brine04 on April 18, 2010, 09:28:28 PM
Bet that vacuum portion of the gauge sure is useful  :P
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel - Updated
Post by: rprznt on April 19, 2010, 07:24:16 AM
homemade 2.5" exhaust, 2 junkyard mufflers too. red anti rust paint


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did work today....

heavy springs before removal

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new spring packs made up, extra leaves rmoved

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but Dan how you you lift up the heavy ute????


























like this!

doing my brother's ute, lifted it up with the top lip of the bucket

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doing mine

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hard work undoing rusted u-bolts, shit job.

cheers  8)




Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: BoostedSchemes on April 19, 2010, 01:27:49 PM
thats sick, i like your style. truck is working out real nice and your cat knows whats up.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 19, 2010, 05:05:38 PM
thats sick, i like your style. truck is working out real nice and your cat knows whats up.

thanks yuri!


update:
it seems i took out too many springs   :-X and the arse end sits really low now, in a couple of days and some 50kms it settled down quite a bit.

easy to fix, ill put back in the thickest spring i removed, which is from the middle of the spring pack and is quite curved.

another few hours work but at least then it will sit level.

Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 19, 2010, 05:16:05 PM
Two mufflers seems way overkill, I wonder what the spool up difference and egt difference is open downpipe to dual muffler exhaust?

I like the look, since your pulling your leaves apart again, I would look for some graphite paint, it lets the leaves move easier on top of each other, and makes for a better ride.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: onlyflash944 on April 19, 2010, 05:55:21 PM

I like the look, since your pulling your leaves apart again, I would look for some graphite paint, it lets the leaves move easier on top of each other, and makes for a better ride.

less squeaks too
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 19, 2010, 06:50:45 PM
Two mufflers seems way overkill, I wonder what the spool up difference and egt difference is open downpipe to dual muffler exhaust?


they are both fibreglass packed straight through type mufflers, like big resonators, 2.5" all the way.
the lining is perforated steel pipe, no baffles or restriction there .......

i severely hate loud droning exhausts and cop attention, so love 2 mufflers.

i drove it open dp and i wanted to commit suicide with the noise  :-X
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 19, 2010, 08:45:28 PM
LOL, I am a little more redneck, I love the 90 right off the turbo, and through the hood.  Just a pair of 3/8"s bolts welded in a cross to keep turbo parts from flying all over.  O0
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: Aero on April 20, 2010, 09:03:21 PM
Thats the way I swap engines too. haha
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 21, 2010, 08:37:22 AM
drove it yesterday, and blew a hole in a charge pipe coupler, double angle elbow right off the compressor

running manly boost too  :evil:

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got busy today and made a steel replacement, 2" off the elbow to 2.5" exhaust pipe.

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fitted very well, ill use hair spray and some tough hose clamps to prevent blowing off again....

final fitting in enginebay

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 :)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 21, 2010, 10:47:25 AM
Looking good, time to give the pump the screws.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 21, 2010, 04:49:20 PM
Looking good, time to give the pump the screws.

yep, when i get the lift pump done, and figure out how to keep couplers on grrrrrrrr   >:(
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: dvst8r on April 21, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
Looking good, time to give the pump the screws.

yep, when i get the lift pump done, and figure out how to keep couplers on grrrrrrrr   >:(

http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=651.msg151646#msg151646 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php?topic=651.msg151646#msg151646)

A couple pics down is a good solution for that.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on April 21, 2010, 08:39:54 PM
 

A couple pics down is a good solution for that.

:D

thats outstanding, will do right now, even have fencing pliars because i live on the farm !
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel UPDATED
Post by: rprznt on June 19, 2010, 10:13:53 PM
Hey nogs, update time....

just finished a steel bumper for the ute, protect the rad from sticks, rocks and kangaroos when i'm up in the bush.
25 x 50 x 3mm rectangular steel tubing and some 40 x 3mm gal mesh. flat black rustguard primer and paint

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mounting to stock chrome bumper and at bottom to stock bashplate

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added electric fuel pump, to lift fuel from the tank. its a posiflow 65 gph model. relay and fuse mounted to chassis, covered in thick grease keep water out.

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added rear reversing light, 12v 55w fog light. switched by a relay from std white reversing lights

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after only 1000km of driving the filter in my catchcan looked like this....

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no good, so i binned it and stuffed can with steel wool   O0

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added a rear tray light, handy for camping etc

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4 tie down points on tray

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snow shovel fits nicely into one of the crossmembers of the tray, painted with red stripes so i dont lose it in snow  :P
retained by a stretched bike tube and cheap D shackle.

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my brother and i went up the hills for some early season snow, first time offroad in my ute.
the campsite

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did donuts here

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old cattlemens hut we visited

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waterfalls too, note snow and ice at the bottom. (rare for australian falls...)

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cheers  :)



Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: caged on June 20, 2010, 02:34:21 AM
nice pics. did you get any boarding in?
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on June 21, 2010, 03:32:38 AM
nice pics. did you get any boarding in?

no dude, not enough snow, next week hell yess!!


 :noel:
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on August 20, 2010, 07:37:01 AM
very minor update:

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just finished a 2" tray lift. bits of 50 x 50 x 3mm shs with m12 x 75mm grade 8 bolts straight through. now my suspension can fully compress on each side with out the tire hitting the tray  :-X)

did the front upper ball joint flip which is popular in this model. 20ish mm more down travel for nothing (limited by shock and brake line length)
got most of my pos camber back after cranking up the torsion bars up in the front about 35mm... doesnt scrub tires so im happy.

added rear recovery point. (ignore the shackle)
a bit of 10mm plate with a 19mm hole for a lifting chain connector to go through, 10mm grade 80 connector. 2 x m10 grade 8 bolts with nyloc nuts and washers to hold it on. def wont break  :noel:

homemade extended shackles.
1.5" lift in the rear with benefit of better drive shaft angle too. 12 x 50mm plate with 2 x m18 x 130mm grade 8 bolts with spring washers. also wont break.


also got really bogged at the snow, bottomed out on the bashplate and diff  >:( took 1/2 hour to dig out by myself haha.
after digging pic  :D

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better update sunday night.

cheers  :)
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: 92CXyD on August 20, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
Nice still not use to seeing snow in those pict.  ;D
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: DasPoop on August 20, 2010, 03:24:31 PM
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Had to remember its winter down there crazy aussies
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: brine04 on August 20, 2010, 07:17:24 PM
That pic must make it look better than it was I swear I've taken cars through more snow than that.
Title: Re: Build thread: Isuzu Rodeo turbo diesel
Post by: rprznt on August 21, 2010, 07:12:19 AM
That pic must make it look better than it was I swear I've taken cars through more snow than that.

haha yeah so have i.

it was shitty snow, hard and crusty on top, but when you break through it is 400mm deep slimey slush crap

i was driving along at 40kph in 4x4 then it sank down and just started digging itself in deeper, i jumped on the skinny pedal hard making it worse.