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General Category => Fabrication => Topic started by: jay on May 01, 2010, 09:32:31 PM

Title: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 09:32:31 PM
ill start this off by saying i have a new found respect for welders everywhere

yall niggass be makin dis shit look ez O0

with that said..

i currently grade my

tack welds a c-
they look like ass but get the job done

i dont know why but i cant get a decent tack weld without using filler.. i suck ass

root pass a c+
came out surprisingly good.. since i dont have to hold the filler rod in the other hand im better able to lay down smooth and consistent beads i used 1/16th tungsten with no filler rod

filler pass an f+
i REALLY should have cleaned the metal after i did the root pass before i did a filler/cap pass :noel:
not having a welding table really sucks dick.. and i should have used 3/32nd for the cap/filler pass

right now im waiting for the metal to cool but im confident the next piece i weld up will be better

ill use 3/32nd for the cap pass and ill clean the metal between the root and the cap passes

shitty tack
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root pass
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filler pass
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after cleaning (forgot to clean between root and filler passes.. doh!
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tips would be greatly appreciated but if all you want to do is talk shit please post in the cummins discussion thread...


Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 01, 2010, 09:39:41 PM
What are you making?  Pipe bombs?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 09:45:09 PM
What are you making?  Pipe bombs?
IRA style :noel:
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 01, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
WAY TOO hot Jay. Turn it down or move way faster. Whats you gas flow like? clean it better before you start.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 01, 2010, 10:20:09 PM
dirty, dirty, dirty.......

you need to put a have decent bevel on that pipe. and clean/buff up the area arounf the weld some. Also  as csaddict said check your gas flow as thats pretty burned up looking.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 10:53:26 PM
WAY TOO hot Jay. Turn it down or move way faster. Whats you gas flow like? clean it better before you start.

thanks yeah i like the heat where its at but i def neat to move faster

no idea where gas flow is at.. i dont have a flow meter yet :(

dirty, dirty, dirty.......

you need to put a have decent bevel on that pipe. and clean/buff up the area arounf the weld some. Also  as csaddict said check your gas flow as thats pretty burned up looking.

my friend has my angle grinder and my bench grinder has a grove going down the middle of the wheel from the bevels i made so the metal bounces around on it

i need a rest for the pipe and i need to bolt down the angle grinder so i can feel comfortable applying pressure to the metal to get a better bevel

sorry pictures are out of order and im pissed off so i dont care for reorganizing them
basically this time

tackweld was b- dont have a pic of it

root pass f-
i burned two holes right through the shit rofl from too much heat/not moving fast enough

filler pass f+ (again)
first time attempting a decent cap pass with 3/32nd and i kept dipping the damn filler rod into the wrong spot so it stuck.. and i had to use the torch to get it off XD

also i wasnt wearing a glove on the filler rod feeding hand being the typical dumbass that i am filler rod was short and it got hot so i had to drop it a couple times lol

i think attempt number 3 will be halfway decent
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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 01, 2010, 10:57:27 PM
Turn the heat down, you don't know jack shit to be saying you "like where it's at". do as told and you will learn. Don't listen and i personally will just sit back and watch the fail insue.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:02:36 PM
Turn the heat down, you don't know jack shit to be saying you "like where it's at". do as told and you will learn. Don't listen and i personally will just sit back and watch the fail insue.

sorry..

attempt number 3 coming up with less heat

now that i have a newer board in my welder i cant set the max amps for when i have the pedal at 100% lol

what should i set max amps to

dc negative right

should i stick to 1/16th root and 3/32nd cap pass
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: narfdanarf on May 01, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
Do you not have any flat stock to practice the motion on before you move to pipe?  Also turn the damned amperage down, holes like that won't be caused by not moving fast enough, you are way way way way too hot.  Turn up the gas, buy a fucking flowmeter for fucks sake...actually on second thought you do have a regulator right, you're just missing the gauge?  Cleaning is important, but the correct motion and welder settings are at least 3 times more important, unless you're welding shit that's getting x-rayed.

Also I recommend you practice on some shit that is not stainless, it will handle the heat of a slow torch operator much better.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: narfdanarf on May 01, 2010, 11:10:16 PM
I use 1/16" for everythign except really small places which I use some mig wire, and I use 3/32" for head/turbo flanges shit that needs a lot of filler.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:14:01 PM
Do you not have any flat stock to practice the motion on before you move to pipe?  Also turn the damned amperage down, holes like that won't be caused by not moving fast enough, you are way way way way too hot.  Turn up the gas, buy a fucking flowmeter for fucks sake...actually on second thought you do have a regulator right, you're just missing the gauge?  Cleaning is important, but the correct motion and welder settings are at least 3 times more important, unless you're welding shit that's getting x-rayed.

Also I recommend you practice on some shit that is not stainless, it will handle the heat of a slow torch operator much better.

wish i had flat stock but local metal shop wants an arm and a leg for fucking flat shit even scraps.. i was like WHAT THE FUCK!!!

what amps should i be welding at yeah second try i was running alot hotter XD

i got a regulator just dont have the gauge :/

buying a flow meter really soon...

just dont have the money right now :/

I use 1/16" for everythign except really small places which I use some mig wire, and I use 3/32" for head/turbo flanges shit that needs a lot of filler.

thanks.. i think ill go back to trying 1/16th filler pass again :/
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
waiting for peeps to chime in before i go at attempt #3 :(
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: bigwig on May 01, 2010, 11:28:07 PM
You need a flow meter.

I also want you to own up to what really happened with this welding bullshit.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:33:00 PM
You need a flow meter.

I also want you to own up to what really happened with this welding bullshit.

gonna buy flow meter asap

bought a fucked up welder

paid 100 to get it checked out

gave me 875 dollar repair bill

guy at welding shop was cool as fuck and gave me the board to fix it for free

i tossed it in and welder still didnt work.. called him up and he was cool enough to install it for free but he said since hes doing it for free and on the side it would take him a while

3 weeks later.. welder fixed for free  :noel:

everything else in the thread was trolltasticallyfabulous
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:36:58 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Argon-CO2-Mig-Tig-Flowmeter-Regulator-Welding-Weld-New-/200334186437?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ea4d917c5 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Argon-CO2-Mig-Tig-Flowmeter-Regulator-Welding-Weld-New-/200334186437?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ea4d917c5)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: narfdanarf on May 01, 2010, 11:39:38 PM
yes.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 01, 2010, 11:45:03 PM
3 weeks later.. welder fixed for free  :noel:

Buy the guy a bottle of booze, goddamn you.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 01, 2010, 11:51:46 PM
3 weeks later.. welder fixed for free  :noel:

Buy the guy a bottle of booze, goddamn you.

i offered to pay him he refused he said i know youll be a life long customer and thats all he wants

bleh

niggers need to tell me what amps i should be welding at
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 01, 2010, 11:54:12 PM
i set the machine at 80 amps for sch10, and use NO filler on the root and 1/16th on the cap/fill pass.  Use a bit less amps if 80 is to much.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Hotrodlincoln on May 02, 2010, 12:16:17 AM
pretty much what every one else has been saying. to hot, turn it down
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 12:43:14 AM
i set the machine at 80 amps for sch10, and use NO filler on the root and 1/16th on the cap/fill pass.  Use a bit less amps if 80 is to much.

thanks.

going to try attempt #3 right now.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: j.h.christ on May 02, 2010, 01:09:47 AM
3 weeks later.. welder fixed for free  :noel:

Buy the guy a bottle of booze, goddamn you.

i offered to pay him he refused he said i know youll be a life long customer and thats all he wants

bleh

niggers need to tell me what amps i should be welding at

buy him a bottle anyways. you'll get discounts for the rest of your life, and a friend to bullshit with everytime you go into the store.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 01:23:08 AM
^^ rofl i might just do that

i got a shock on attempt number three

i think from the arc assist starter/hf start

was a nice shock too i was half asleep so it woke me the fuck up

pictures uploading.. fuck the g1.. this shit used to upload in seconds now it takes 15 minutes all the way up to an hour

anyways

used 1/16th set machine to 75 amps and still burned a hole through

then looked at the pipe and realized my chop saw wasnt cutting straight..

so the areas where the root pass cuts through is because the pipe is uneven there and not a flush fit so instead of the bevel falling in on itself it just makes a hole

so im gonna stop being lazy and finish setting up the band saw tomorrow

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 02, 2010, 01:46:42 AM
your fit up has to be perfect, there can't be gaps anywhere. this is not an option.  Your moving WAY to slow if you burning a hole at 75 amps.

try moving from side to side 1/4" while moving forward on the root just practicing the proper weave. I have done this when i was learning. i would do a dry run of what i was about to do when welding to get the speed/width down. this gives you something to copy when you welding. Trust me it works, also try getting into a rythum.

Yes the pipe might have some minor undercut/ripple to the root pass this is normal, you want a little groove to follow later when you have to add filler. If not the arc will wander and the bead width can become inconsistent.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 01:47:44 AM
tack weld
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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 01:49:36 AM
your fit up has to be perfect, there can't be gaps anywhere. this is not an option.  Your moving WAY to slow if you burning a hole at 75 amps.

try moving from side to side 1/4" while moving forward on the root just practicing the proper weave. I have done this when i was learning. i would do a dry run of what i was about to do when welding to get the speed/width down. this gives you something to copy when you welding. Trust me it works, also try getting into a rythum.

Yes the pipe might have some minor undercut/ripple to the root pass this is normal, you want a little groove to follow later when you have to add filler. If not the arc will wander and the bead width can become inconsistent.

thanks.

i havent tried side to side yet.. just (sadly) up and down rofl

attempt #4 will be tomorrow

thank you rhmt!
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 02:06:02 AM
fyi i have epilepsy so i got shaky hands

so ittl take me a while to get this shit down XD

i havent played guitar in a while so the shaking has gotten worse.. whatever

correct me if im wrong..

but these welds are structurally sound right?

doesnt look like this shit is gonna crack.. they just look like shit right?

and other than burning through.. my root pass is fine right?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 02, 2010, 02:11:00 AM
No theres not a whole lot about them other then you stuck to peices of metal together thats correct. At this time. Give it some time or alot. and it will start to make sense. But do not think your ready to go out and start making things.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: narfdanarf on May 02, 2010, 02:38:54 AM
I'd go get some steel plate from lowes tomorrow and practice running straight lines on it. I think part of your problem is you're not letting the pipe cool enough between arcs.  If the pipe has been heatsoaked to hell you will have problems burning through.   Since you're new and your probably slow, i'd weld like a 1/2" and let it cool then weld another half inch and let it cool...ect ect.  Once your speed picks up you can move the length of your beads up without heatsoaking the shit out of the pipe. 

Another tip, as you're looking at the puddle it needs to be a circle, if it's an oval you're moving too fast or you are too hot and it's not able to cool fully before you move.  It will come you just need practice.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 03:14:11 AM
I'd go get some steel plate from lowes tomorrow and practice running straight lines on it. I think part of your problem is you're not letting the pipe cool enough between arcs.  If the pipe has been heatsoaked to hell you will have problems burning through.   Since you're new and your probably slow, i'd weld like a 1/2" and let it cool then weld another half inch and let it cool...ect ect.  Once your speed picks up you can move the length of your beads up without heatsoaking the shit out of the pipe. 

Another tip, as you're looking at the puddle it needs to be a circle, if it's an oval you're moving too fast or you are too hot and it's not able to cool fully before you move.  It will come you just need practice.

thanks but actually the holes happend when i first touched the torch to the material... im 80% sure they happend because the chop saw isnt doing straight cuts anymore and the pieces arent lining up

i will set up the bandsaw tomorrow and will confirm

i just got back from the basement and i did a pass over all 3 welds without filler and damn i could hold the torch there forever almost and it wouldnt burn through

it flattend out the bead and made it look alot more uniform but made it alot wider too

ill try to find some steel plate but right now yo no tango dinero and im sure id rather buy that regulator then get flat steel i hear ya on the puddle

i knew i was dragging the torch too fast lol  i wasnt able to get dimes worth shit (not that i really tried all that much) they were just a stack of ovals

meh

again thank you rhmt
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 02, 2010, 05:01:09 AM
you need to turn the gas flow way up. you dont need a flow meter, a standard regulator with a gauge is fine and probably much cheaper.

still looks too hot.

and no those welds arent "structurally sound". they are contaminated to fuck and if you made a manifold with welds like that it would fall apart very quickly.

your bevels suck. they need to look like the bevels that come on the weld el's. use the side of the chop saw to make them or get a belt sander. make sure your tungsten is VERY pointy and sharp otherwise the arc will be all over the place and you wont be able to control the puddle. if you dip the tungsten in the puddle, stop welding and go sharpen the tungsten. make sure there are NO gaps. set the welder for 85-90 amps and make the root pass. turn it down to 60 and make the cap pass, you can move pretty slow that way. also whats your post purge set at. you should be holding the torch over the spot you welded till the gas flow stops. if your pulling the torch off right away you can contaminate the weld.

also wire wheel the pipes and clean them with a clean rag and acetone. youll see a huge difference.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 02, 2010, 06:27:15 AM
regulator = pressure regulation
flow meter = volume of gas/time

you cant use a regulator and expect it to provide the correct coverage.

it looks to me you are still pretty hot, and have very little gas coverage. what happens is the metal oxidizes and it just mixes all around, so even if only 1 little part is bad it fucking pulls that shit all the way through the weld.

also are you holding your torch over the weld after your done? another tip is keep the filler rod under the gas as well, to keep the filler from oxidizing, you dont want to put shit right back in your weld.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 02, 2010, 08:00:05 AM
Jay I can tell by the browish red colors on some of those that your Tungsten is also contaminated. If you touch once or get the tungsten dirty you need to stop and resharpen. Its very important.

What gas are you using? 100% argon? It needs to be.

What Tungsten is it? Should be 2% Thoriated with the RED band on the end. (others will work but that is what you should start with. Some like Lanthiated)

Turn the heat down to 60 amps. You are trying to learn muscle memorization not make great first welds. Train your hands to work first, watch the puddle, and learn where you are in the pedal and its relation to amps/heat.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 02:18:16 PM
im using red tunsgten and 100% argon

yes i hold the torch on it till the 10secs are up lol my welder has a 10 sec post weld flow lol and im not wasting it on anything else

is it safe to leave my gas turned on 24/7? i cant hear any leaks from inside the welder...

is it safe to leave welder plugged into outlet 24/7 i dont hear anything when its plugged in and not turned on...

i will sharpen all the tungsten i have on hand so i can swap em out whenever i accidentally dip...

ill try 60amps on the next try

right now my gas flow is like a soft blowing of air

its turned as high up as my regulator will let it go (which isnt very high)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 02, 2010, 03:16:10 PM
regulator = pressure regulation
flow meter = volume of gas/time

you cant use a regulator and expect it to provide the correct coverage.

it looks to me you are still pretty hot, and have very little gas coverage. what happens is the metal oxidizes and it just mixes all around, so even if only 1 little part is bad it fucking pulls that shit all the way through the weld.

also are you holding your torch over the weld after your done? another tip is keep the filler rod under the gas as well, to keep the filler from oxidizing, you dont want to put shit right back in your weld.

what i meant was he doesnt need the type with the little ball float thingy. he can use this kind

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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 02, 2010, 03:20:39 PM
buk you might not hear leaks but ill be it does. when you get a working gauge turn off the gas and watch the pressure drop over time. its small amount but it only takes 10 seconds to close the bottle each time.

are you using a gas lense? what size cup?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 04:03:17 PM
buk you might not hear leaks but ill be it does. when you get a working gauge turn off the gas and watch the pressure drop over time. its small amount but it only takes 10 seconds to close the bottle each time.

are you using a gas lense? what size cup?

thanks

im using a gas lense cup size 7


uhhh the band saw isnt cutting

hf band saw set to horizontal using a bi metal 18 tpi blade

shit sucks dick it cut wood in a second but it aint doing shit to the metal

i set it lowest speed and highest speed no difference

i dont think im supposed to press down very hard on the band saw? how much tension should i have?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 02, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
did you buy a harbor freight blade that came in a blue/yellow package? if you did check the tooth direction. when you uncoil them out of the package they are facing the wrong way so you have to turn them inside out.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
did you buy a harbor freight blade that came in a blue/yellow package? if you did check the tooth direction. when you uncoil them out of the package they are facing the wrong way so you have to turn them inside out.

What the fuck? Haha

I should kill myself
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 02, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
i made the same mistake with my first HF blade. couldnt figure out why it wouldnt cut. looked at the teeth and it was backwards.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 05:06:23 PM
 :(
i made the same mistake with my first HF blade. couldnt figure out why it wouldnt cut. looked at the teeth and it was backwards.

I can't see the teeth because I have mine set up in a dark partt of the basement.. but I ran my fingers across it and it cut wood like butter that's why I didn't think to flip it

 But I just flipped it and it cut awesomely fuck dudde I can't even begin to describe the difference between band saw and chop saw lol

Fuck anyyyyone who says you can get by with a chop saw. Cut is so smoth and straight it scared me
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: SgtB on May 02, 2010, 05:19:12 PM
Make sure the argon bottle is either all the way open or all the way closed. High pressure bottles leak past the stem if you don't. I always close the bottle when I'm done. Nothing worse than finding a  near full bottle completely empty the next day. If the welder is off it's can be left plugged in. I don't unplug my stove. 

The first mistake I made when I learned to tig was being too hot just like you did. The lower the heat, the more time you have to watch the puddle form and then you can drag it back and forth. If the workpiece is glowing hot when you're done, it's either too much heat or you're going to slow. It's usually the first. You need just enough heat for good fusion and penetration.  Gray chalky looking stainless welds are overheated. Some call it cooking out the chrome.

If you see a blue flash, or stick the tungsten, stop right there and feather the end of the weld, and regrind your tungsten. Every. Single. Time.

Good luck. Be patient. The hand coordination is the hardest part.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 02, 2010, 06:41:04 PM
:(
i made the same mistake with my first HF blade. couldnt figure out why it wouldnt cut. looked at the teeth and it was backwards.

I can't see the teeth because I have mine set up in a dark partt of the basement.. but I ran my fingers across it and it cut wood like butter that's why I didn't think to flip it

 But I just flipped it and it cut awesomely fuck dudde I can't even begin to describe the difference between band saw and chop saw lol

Fuck anyyyyone who says you can get by with a chop saw. Cut is so smoth and straight it scared me


Wait you flipped it? What? meaning you had the teeth up?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: SgtB on May 02, 2010, 07:11:34 PM
Turn it  inside-out like a sock and the teeth change cutting direction.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 02, 2010, 09:15:53 PM
yeah i had the teeth flipped like he said flip it like a sock and it cuts just fine

i didnt get a chance to weld today

friend came over and we got the del sol 100% civic 100% and crx almost done just gotta hit up the jy tomorrow and pick up some exhaust studs

but tomorrow im going to lapeer to file a claim against the dbag who sold me the welder

we shall see
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on May 03, 2010, 02:21:54 AM
Har har har, i can haz flow meter.


You know what i want..
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: arsenio on May 03, 2010, 09:29:36 PM
So, are you almost ready to build mani's yet?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 04, 2010, 01:17:14 AM
So, are you almost ready to build mani's yet?

for me? yes. to sell? no not really.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 05, 2010, 09:32:37 PM
you dont happen to think some of us actually knew what we were talking about when we said you cant just wake up one day and be a fabricator do you?

lol. good luck though. i am glad to finally see some actual progress
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: arsenio on May 05, 2010, 09:38:11 PM
So, are you almost ready to build mani's yet?

for me? yes. to sell? no not really.

Come on. You can slap together a rotary manifold. Two fucking runners...
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 05, 2010, 09:59:02 PM
I can if you really do need one
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 06, 2010, 01:29:28 AM
rotary manifolds are pretty simple.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 02:13:45 AM
so why is the band saw no longer cutting straight?

when it gets to the bottom the cut bends out

how tight can i safely tighten the blade?

i liked the welds i made today :noel:

my first mani build is coming up pretty soon.. id say 2 to 3 weeks max

i just need to figure out the best way to bevel a pipe and find out why the band saw isnt cutting straight..

also would be nice if i could cut the helmet in half... or something..

fucking lense fog up pretty quickly.. even tried it with a dust mask.. it made it stay clearer longer but bleh.. and i sweat alot so the sweat band is soaked half the time

cant really get comfortable with the bitch on :/

i wish i could afford metal for a welding table but i still cant.. rofl
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 06, 2010, 02:45:25 AM
Flap disc plus angle grinder = bevel in 5 sec.

Btw if your not confident holding the piece while grinding on it try resting the grinder on your leg a bit while sitting on a stool. This lets to stablize the heavy grinder and you can freely rotate the piece in your other hand.

btw a stool is almost 100% needed imo to weld and prep things. keeps you way more stable.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 06, 2010, 03:42:40 AM
i use the side of my chop saw to bevel pipes. works better then a flap wheel or belt sander.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 06, 2010, 04:15:24 AM
i use the side of my chop saw to bevel pipes. works better then a flap wheel or belt sander.

I used to do that untill i shattered one into a million pieces right in front of my face. So i use the angle grinder exclusively, even though i have lost grip and taken some nice chunks out of my thumb/hand.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 05:54:17 AM
im using the bench grinder just fine for what it is but its putting a deep ass grove down the middle of the grinding wheel... is that normal?

bleh

the grove makes it kinda easier to bevel the pipe since its a grove but now that the band saw isnt cutting straight cuts the piece sometimes will jump around on the grinding wheel..
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 06, 2010, 07:06:41 AM
sounds like you are trying to cut too fast with the bandsaw. tighten the spring some. the thing with the HF bandsaws is that you really cant just leave them alone. you either have to set the spring tight where you have to actually push it through towards the end or you have to loosen it to the point where you have to hold it back till the blade gets all the way into the metal, then you can let it go. you also might have the guide (part with the little wheels that guide the blade)adjusted too far away.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 06, 2010, 07:47:14 AM
i use the side of my chop saw to bevel pipes. works better then a flap wheel or belt sander.

I used to do that untill i shattered one into a million pieces right in front of my face.

That happened to my friend Johnny, laid the side of his face completely open.  He now looks like a serial killer.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 09:53:37 PM
i use the side of my chop saw to bevel pipes. works better then a flap wheel or belt sander.

I used to do that untill i shattered one into a million pieces right in front of my face.

That happened to my friend Johnny, laid the side of his face completely open.  He now looks like a serial killer.

tbone steak mask johnny?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 09:59:02 PM

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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 09:59:48 PM
sloppier than sex with jd's mom
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 06, 2010, 10:23:33 PM
Lot better Buk. Keep it up. Make sure you are cleaning everything with acetone and keeping that tungsten sharp.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 06, 2010, 11:40:41 PM
Lot better Buk. Keep it up. Make sure you are cleaning everything with acetone and keeping that tungsten sharp.

i must have missed the acetone comment :(

ill be looking into that asap

thanks!



Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: ryan89crx on May 07, 2010, 12:02:02 AM
You still need to work on your bevel. Industry standard is a perfect 37.5*, looks like you are just rounding off the edge.

Looking better and better though
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 07, 2010, 12:58:23 AM
You still need to work on your bevel. Industry standard is a perfect 37.5*, looks like you are just rounding off the edge.

Looking better and better though

well my grinding wheel on the bench grinder has a deep grove in it... is that normal?

i need a solid table to mount my bench grinder and a vice to.. then i can get some decent bevel work going but as it sits right now only a quick bevel will have to do.. bleh

but next attempt i try i will def get an alot better bevel just to post it up

thank you rhmt!!!!
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 07, 2010, 06:13:37 AM
You'll get it. Its just seat time.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 07, 2010, 07:07:39 AM
damn, it looks like you actually could make a manifold. it sure as hell wont be pretty, but this is RHMT afterall
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 07, 2010, 02:13:17 PM
Stop using the bench grinder then. Get the hf 4.5" grinder and a 80 grit flap disc and get perfect bevels everytime.

also theres no need to grind on the side of the pipe like your doing, it's just ugly and theres no benifit to doing that.

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 07, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
Stop using the bench grinder then. Get the hf 4.5" grinder and a 80 grit flap disc and get perfect bevels everytime.

also theres no need to grind on the side of the pipe like your doing, it's just ugly and theres no benifit to doing that.



cool thanks..

i should be getting cash soon ill neet to go to hf to pick up some flap discs..

heres some pics but i think i got a little worse.. bleh

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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 07, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Yeah it looks cold to me, and your spacing is quite a bit apart. Try taking the thickness of the material and doubling it, that should be close to what your weld width should be. that should make it easier for you to get how fare to push side to side. Also your not getting full fusion on some of the areas.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
i need ALOT more seat time

but atleast now im laying down consistant/uniform beads.. even if they arent the greatest..

so whats the final word on tack welding? do i do it with or without filler rod?

without filler rod
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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 08, 2010, 12:36:44 AM
Without, theres no need to tack with filler on a butt weld.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 12:49:07 AM
Without, theres no need to tack with filler on a butt weld.

thanks!

tomorrow im gonna try welding up the exhaust for my del sol and my gsr crx (which is now an ls crx :noel:)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: narfdanarf on May 08, 2010, 12:52:36 AM
I'm sure this is common sense, but exhaust is much thinner so turn the heat waaay down, or you will be blowing holes again.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: bigdaddyvtec on May 08, 2010, 01:27:25 AM
Not bad buK  I was expecting alot worse, Id say youre on your way. how much gas is flowing??? whats your post flow like???  Are you leaving the cup over the weld until its done flowing gas before you pull the tungsten away???
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 01:48:57 AM
I'm sure this is common sense, but exhaust is much thinner so turn the heat waaay down, or you will be blowing holes again.

oh yeah trust me i have the image of burning holes through metal seared in my head from when my welder was broken XD

Not bad buK  I was expecting alot worse, Id say youre on your way. how much gas is flowing??? whats your post flow like???  Are you leaving the cup over the weld until its done flowing gas before you pull the tungsten away???

idk how much gas is flowing i dont have a flow meter :(

post flow is 10 seconds.. cant adjust it.. and yeah im leaving the cup over the weld till its done flowing gas

so what are the tell tale signs of too little gas?

or too much gas?

even set on highest the gas flowing out of the torch isnt that much.. i know i read online before that too much gas = blowing your arc arround i def dont have that problem.. so maybe i have too little gas?

which means id have to drill through the nipple that connects the gas to the welder i think.. im pretty sure thats the only restrictive part on the entire gas setup..
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 08, 2010, 01:54:00 AM
I'm sure this is common sense, but exhaust is much thinner so turn the heat waaay down, or you will be blowing holes again.

oh yeah trust me i have the image of burning holes through metal seared in my head from when my welder was broken XD

Not bad buK  I was expecting alot worse, Id say youre on your way. how much gas is flowing??? whats your post flow like???  Are you leaving the cup over the weld until its done flowing gas before you pull the tungsten away???

idk how much gas is flowing i dont have a flow meter :(

post flow is 10 seconds.. cant adjust it.. and yeah im leaving the cup over the weld till its done flowing gas

so what are the tell tale signs of too little gas?

or too much gas?

even set on highest the gas flowing out of the torch isnt that much.. i know i read online before that too much gas = blowing your arc arround i def dont have that problem.. so maybe i have too little gas?

which means id have to drill through the nipple that connects the gas to the welder i think.. im pretty sure thats the only restrictive part on the entire gas setup..

Is there a reason you don't have it on the highest setting? or do you? You need more gas flow asap. Your welds are contaminated and look like crap color wise. It isn't really a looks issue as much as a strength issue at this point.


Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 02:00:40 AM
Is there a reason you don't have it on the highest setting? or do you? You need more gas flow asap. Your welds are contaminated and look like crap color wise. It isn't really a looks issue as much as a strength issue at this point.

yeah i have it on highest setting :(

and im welding in the basement so that gas isnt being blown away or anything like that..

i guess i will take apart the nipple on the welder tomorrow and drill it out if i can find a drill bit.. but first imma disconnect it from the welder and turn on the gas to make sure the restriction isnt from the regulator itself...

i wish i had the money to just buy the god damn regulator with flow meter...

bleh
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 08, 2010, 08:58:30 AM
They are like $30 on eBay. Do it. I wouldn't even be wasting my time trying to weld if I didn't have everything needed
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 08, 2010, 09:03:36 AM
I wouldn't even be wasting my time trying to weld if I didn't have everything needed

^^^^^^^
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: malichite on May 08, 2010, 01:38:02 PM
Shit, that is actually looking better then I thought.  Get a new regulator, set it to around 12-15 CFM.  On Sch 10 SS, I run 75-80 amps.  Get the part setup on a bench, get a stool so you can sit and be real comfortable.  Then, rest your elbows on the bench and find a comfortable position to work from.  Move the part so that you can work around it from this position.  When you start running your bead, tell yourself in your head, dip, move, dip, move, dip, move.  Saying it in your head will help you get and keep a rhythm. 
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 08, 2010, 03:37:47 PM
I run 18 to 20.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 08, 2010, 04:50:55 PM
try welding inside of a clear plastic garbage bag. just let the bag fill up with argon and tie it off around the torch and ground, just poke the filler though the bag.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: hatchboy on May 08, 2010, 05:31:46 PM
try welding inside of a clear plastic garbage bag. just let the bag fill up with argon and tie it off around the torch and ground, just poke the filler though the bag.

wtf? pic?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 05:58:32 PM
try welding inside of a clear plastic garbage bag. just let the bag fill up with argon and tie it off around the torch and ground, just poke the filler though the bag.

im def not at a stage where i would feel comfortable doing that... but ive been thinking about a sheet metal setup i can rest around the weld piece that would hold the gas in place.. since argon is more dense than air it will displace the oxygen and stay at the bottom of it.. bleh or ill just wait till i get back purge in full effect :noel:

i took the hose off the welder and im pretty sure its the hose that is the restrictor.. if i take the hose off the regulator and turn on the bottle is gushes out gas.. if i put the hose on the regulator and turn it on it barel lets any gas out

which leads me to beileve that this hose might not work.. booooooo the hose might be from a mig setup since the regulator i have is from a mig setup

i will buy the shit soon i can still practice laying down beads in the meantime till i get it right.. namien?

heres the latest weld..  pics are flipped so ill say which weld it is..

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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: danz on May 08, 2010, 06:09:15 PM
you fused steel.


that puts you leaps and bounds ahead of what i thought was your ceiling for success.


keep at it. 
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 08, 2010, 06:13:16 PM
Dirty tungsten is still evident. Fix that.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 08, 2010, 06:42:25 PM
try welding inside of a clear plastic garbage bag. just let the bag fill up with argon and tie it off around the torch and ground, just poke the filler though the bag.

wtf? pic?

i dont have any pics, but my welding instructor had us do this. in buks case he doesnt know what his flow rate is so he might as well just weld inside a bag that has a 100% argon makeup because his regulator obviously isnt working.
its essentially backpurging but the whole thing.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 08, 2010, 10:00:01 PM
Dirty tungsten is still evident. Fix that.

thats my laziness :(

but just curious what are the tell tale signs on the weld of dirty tungsten?

my cousin gets back monday so i wont have cash till then...

bleh but yeah i didnt even weld up the exhaust for my del sol today had too much other shit going on all i had was the one attempt..

tomorrow ill have another go at it for sure

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 08, 2010, 10:25:51 PM
The reddish brown halo in the HAZ.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 09, 2010, 12:55:56 AM
^^ thanks

so who wants to make me a collector cutting rig for my band saw :D
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 09, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
You have a bandsaw and a welder, you should be able to handle it
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 09, 2010, 09:09:21 AM
Jay mine is literally a piece of angle iron with a hole in it. Then I marks the saw for the angle and the angle iron for the length.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 09, 2010, 10:15:45 AM
Jay mine is literally a piece of angle iron with a hole in it. Then I marks the saw for the angle and the angle iron for the length.

can you take some pictures for me if you get some time :(
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 09, 2010, 10:27:12 AM
there is a thread already , look it up.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 09, 2010, 11:25:29 AM
there is a thread already , look it up.

yeah i saw that thread a while back but its just one pic of each setup lol

im a lazy fuck and i wanted detailed picccsss :(
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 09, 2010, 11:26:47 AM
Well go look again, i posted my ghetto jig. It's not that hard manifold fab master.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 09, 2010, 12:37:53 PM
This is all part of being a fabricator. You have to be able to think for yourself. Getting inspiration from other peoples ideas is one thing, but you have to be able to get from point A to point D without being able to see points B and C sometimes.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 09, 2010, 02:41:47 PM
no welding today.. or tomorrow.. been working on my car all day today and picking up my cousin from the airport tomorrow
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 10, 2010, 01:00:55 AM
would it be safe to remove the 6 gauge wire i ran to the corner of the basement to use it through the window to run the welder in my backyard?

is there a reason i cant keep moving the cord around flipping between outside and the basement>?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 10, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
Household wire isn't meant to be moved around a lot and it's also not meant for the elements is would see outside. With that said I don't see why you couldn't do it a few times till you can get a proper extension cord.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 11, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
Household wire isn't meant to be moved around a lot and it's also not meant for the elements is would see outside. With that said I don't see why you couldn't do it a few times till you can get a proper extension cord.

wait so it is safe to make an extention cord out of 6 gauge wire for the welder???

someone told me it wasnt :(

lame

ok so heres todays welding try.. i used acetone to clean still dont have the money to buy the proper regulator

anyways todays weld sucked cause i was tired as hell when i was welding and the acetone fuses werent helping.. especially when i brushed/cleaned with acetone between welds and i had a bunch of acetone dump on me so the fumes were raging.. bleh


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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 11, 2010, 09:32:09 PM
you shouldnt have to clean off the welds when your done, do you have a fucking flow meter yet?

and youre using stainless filler right?
make sure the filler is clean before you use it, also try to keep your gloves clean.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 11, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
you shouldnt have to clean off the welds when your done, do you have a fucking flow meter yet?

and youre using stainless filler right?
make sure the filler is clean before you use it, also try to keep your gloves clean.

stainless filler yeah its clean before i use it buy my gloves are no where near clean XD

any other tips

i think since my welds arent improving and im just consistently laying down more or less the same ecact welds im prolly doing something seriously wrong

i will buy my regulator before the end of this week and ill also have a t setup for the gas line with a cut off valve for my back purge setup ill place the t directly off the bottle
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 11, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
Without a flowmeter, you are wasting your time and materials.

I use dedicated gloves for tig welding and a dedicated bench grinder for my tungsten.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: hotrex on May 11, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
yup dedicated gloves and wheelfor tungsten and wire wheelforstainless only. 

buk u either are way too hot traveling too slow and using not enough filler or u are having serious lack of gas coverage going too slow and using not enough filler.

as far as collector jigs go.,..  ill sell u mine.,
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 12, 2010, 08:18:49 AM
my gloves are dedicated tig gloves but they got nastied up from back when i first started with the broken welder

so ill have to buy new ones

i think im gonna buy one of those mini ass bench grinders for tungsten only

yeah regulator coming up shortly.. found a car for my cousin going to pick it up this morning so ill make 500 bucks if its a good car.

ha.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 12, 2010, 11:50:35 AM
this is what i use, but mine doesnt have the flex shaft or the variable speed=cheaper!!!

http://www.harborfreight.com/bench-grinder-with-flex-shaft-43533.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/bench-grinder-with-flex-shaft-43533.html)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Corey on May 12, 2010, 01:46:13 PM
this is what i use, but mine doesnt have the flex shaft or the variable speed=cheaper!!!

http://www.harborfreight.com/bench-grinder-with-flex-shaft-43533.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/bench-grinder-with-flex-shaft-43533.html)

fail
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: hotrex on May 12, 2010, 06:55:38 PM
pice o chit mang
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 12, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
works great for me
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 14, 2010, 11:09:44 PM
no welding in a whileeeee

gonna be welding up some charge piping for a friend tomorrow or the next day tho

ha
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 04:01:28 PM
so what gauge material for charge piping?

ss?

or do mild steel then paint it?

dont really feel like getting into aluminum right now
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 15, 2010, 04:54:54 PM
so what gauge material for charge piping?

ss?

or do mild steel then paint it?

dont really feel like getting into aluminum right now

16 gauge for charge piping. Material is your choice, mild steel is easier to work with but SS doesn't rust. so you choose. Usually if i get someone who doesn't want to powdercoat there piping or isn't super cheap i just go aluminum. As the price is the same for the most part as SS. And well it's just plain better hands down.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 15, 2010, 06:09:58 PM
Buk, the way you are welding right now, stay away from aluminum. it is so much less forgiving than steel or SS. i have always done my own in mild steel and painted it, but to each their own
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Conceptz-X on May 15, 2010, 06:13:56 PM
Buk, the way you are hacking it right now, stay away from aluminum.
fixed
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 06:14:56 PM
Buk, the way you are welding right now, stay away from aluminum. it is so much less forgiving than steel or SS. i have always done my own in mild steel and painted it, but to each their own

thanks again rhmt

im prolly gonna place an order for ss and ms real soon

wanna get started learning how to weld that thin shit

yeah i figured id be fucked as far as aluminum goes lol

what do you use to paint the mild steel?

also i remember reading some shit from a while back about mild steel charge piping rusting on the inside and fucking up motors.. lawl

i just thought why not paint em in and out?

bleh

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 06:16:39 PM
Buk, the way you are hacking it right now, stay away from aluminum.
fixed

hacking my ass. i looked at my birdshit log mani today and the welds are almost identical.. as far as i know birdshit was a successful fabber seems to me i just need to perfect the bevveling process.. my current bevels are almost non existant if they were better it would tuck away the bead..
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Conceptz-X on May 15, 2010, 06:23:25 PM
how thick is that shit?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 06:55:13 PM
how thick is that shit?

my beads? not that much thicker than birdshits welds

but if my pipes were better beveled they would be the same exact size as birdshits welds

if your asking about the material? im welding scd10


anyone have any experience with what thickness material to use for rust repairing hondas?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 08:23:13 PM
20 gauge?

http://www.jcwhitney.com/quarter-panel/honda-civic/c1037d894j1s21.jcwx (http://www.jcwhitney.com/quarter-panel/honda-civic/c1037d894j1s21.jcwx)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 08:26:39 PM
damn this guy has 24 gauge sheets for cheap..

think i can use 24 gauge for honda rot repair?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/mat/1728312980.html (http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/mat/1728312980.html)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: dvst8r on May 15, 2010, 08:32:48 PM
24 will work, but is a little thin, and will be easy to dent / re rust. 20 is a better choice.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 08:36:49 PM
24 will work, but is a little thin, and will be easy to dent / re rust. 20 is a better choice.

fuck. my. life.

i knew it was too good to be true lol
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 15, 2010, 09:03:04 PM
i guess it should work fine for just small repairs like rusted rear quarter panels and shit right?

bleh
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Conceptz-X on May 15, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
yea but your just buying time is all
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: bigwig on May 15, 2010, 09:09:22 PM
You realize a TIG welder is the wrong kind of welder for body work, right?  It should be spot or mig welded.  TIG welding you're just going to burn holes.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 15, 2010, 09:39:54 PM
You realize a TIG welder is the wrong kind of welder for body work, right?  It should be spot or mig welded.  TIG welding you're just going to burn holes.

Not true. Yeah mig is whats used by most. But i have never burned holes when i tig weld thin sheet. I reworked a set of gay ass z3 fenders and never had a problem.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on May 15, 2010, 09:50:33 PM
Agreed, there is a local guy here that does custom widebody work for older Porsche junks and he uses a TIG. He works magic.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 16, 2010, 07:24:13 AM
I have done some body work with my tig and never had any problems. I usually use my mig though. It's a lot easier and quicker
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: dvst8r on May 16, 2010, 12:12:51 PM
... It's a lot ... quicker

This is always the reason for mig.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 16, 2010, 03:46:15 PM
+1. I pretty much always use my mig. The tig probably gets 5% of my welding time, if that.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: snm95ls on May 16, 2010, 04:38:40 PM
You realize a TIG welder is the wrong kind of welder for body work, right?  It should be spot or mig welded.  TIG welding you're just going to burn holes.
And what gave you this idea?

I strongly disagree.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 16, 2010, 11:10:38 PM
buk welding FAIL

haven't touched the welder in a while. been too busy with daily bullshit mexiniggers be trying to jack my ride yo

fags have been driving in front of my house/back alley and i caught a kid standing on our back fence last night peering over i was like WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT BITCH

then today had the weirdest fucking potential buyer.. kid was asking if i would take payments for the car cause he needed it for his mom then he asked about my del sol over and over and over again i told em it wasn't for sale

what the fuck
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 17, 2010, 12:59:53 AM
hes coming to steal it
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 17, 2010, 02:50:32 AM
hes coming to steal it

got some masterlock action on the steering column so they cant steal it out my backyard but oh well

i left the fucker unlocked and packed the cf top into the trunk again
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 17, 2010, 03:15:22 AM
you got your ak locked and loaded, right?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 17, 2010, 08:58:53 AM
You need a big mean dog chained up in your back yard
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 17, 2010, 03:35:50 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 17, 2010, 03:38:32 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?

It will work but you will have lots of fun welding that with your currant experience.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 17, 2010, 04:23:16 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?

It will work but you will have lots of fun welding that with your currant experience.

should i wait till i find 20 gauge or just grab the 18 gauge?

4x8 sheet is 40 bucks

and they say they have a scrap pile so i can get more material to practice on for cheap

better than the jews who wanted 60 a sheet and were selling me scrap pieces that no one else would have fucking bought by the pound priced the same as regular fucking stock
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 17, 2010, 04:25:40 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?

It will work but you will have lots of fun welding that with your currant experience.

should i wait

Yes, Matt is telling you to get more practice before you weld on thin sheet that is attached to your car and supposed to be either cosmetic, structural, or functional.   Practice with some shit on some other shit, see if you can catch on before you work on your car.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 17, 2010, 05:19:30 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?

It will work but you will have lots of fun welding that with your currant experience.

should i wait

Yes, Matt is telling you to get more practice before you weld on thin sheet that is attached to your car and supposed to be either cosmetic, structural, or functional.   Practice with some shit on some other shit, see if you can catch on before you work on your car.

dearest mr davis.

i can practice on the metal im buying.

thank you.

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on May 17, 2010, 05:34:50 PM
Local shop only has 18 gauge :(

But it should be fine right?

It will work but you will have lots of fun welding that with your currant experience.

should i wait

Yes, Matt is telling you to get more practice before you weld on thin sheet that is attached to your car and supposed to be either cosmetic, structural, or functional.   Practice with some shit on some other shit, see if you can catch on before you work on your car.

^^^This

Also 20 gauge is VERY thin. I still struggle welding that thin stuff and have it come out decent looking. You have to weld it way low on amps probably in the 20-30 amp range (passenger would know better then i would here).

It's NOT for the novice who has yet to master doing a bevel properly yet alone welding something that doesn't look like dog shit. You don't have nearly the proper setup to begin to weld that stuff. If i were to tell you proper sheilding gas is important on sch10 SS then on 20g anything it's about 20 times more important.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: HiProfile on May 18, 2010, 11:39:13 AM
1/2 thinner sheet isn't twice as easy to burn holes in. It's 20 times easier. It's inversely, expotentially proportional to the 8th power.


Buk you need to stop counting your chickens I.E.D.'s before they hatch detonate.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: t_cel_t on May 19, 2010, 01:03:10 AM
you got to be super fast on the filler application with that thin stuff. i was just welding a catch can made from one of those stainless water bottles and it was really hard as that shit is like tin foil, that and my welder only goes down to 30 amps.

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 31, 2010, 08:03:17 PM
so 16 gauge 2.5 or 3" for charge pipiping is good?

http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/mild-steel-16-gauge-35/3-00-mild-steel-4-00-radius-16-gauge-180-deg-mandrel-bend-608.html (http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/mild-steel-16-gauge-35/3-00-mild-steel-4-00-radius-16-gauge-180-deg-mandrel-bend-608.html)

http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/304-stainless-steel-16-gauge-53/3-00-stainless-steel-6-00-radius-180-degree-mandrel-bend-553.html (http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/304-stainless-steel-16-gauge-53/3-00-stainless-steel-6-00-radius-180-degree-mandrel-bend-553.html)


idk
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on May 31, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
Don't go bigger than 2.5" till you are planning more power than stock sleeves can handle
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 31, 2010, 11:16:35 PM
Go 3" around the 300whp mark.




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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 31, 2010, 11:38:43 PM
Don't go bigger than 2.5" till you are planning more power than stock sleeves can handle

16 gauge is good?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on May 31, 2010, 11:41:52 PM
409

http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/409-stainless-steel-14-gauge-74/2-50-stainless-steel-409-3-75-radius-180-degree-mandrel-bend-675.html (http://www.mandrel-bends.com/catalog/mandrel-bends-34/409-stainless-steel-14-gauge-74/2-50-stainless-steel-409-3-75-radius-180-degree-mandrel-bend-675.html)

14 gauge
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on May 31, 2010, 11:49:28 PM
Go 3" around the 300whp mark.




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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 01, 2010, 12:47:44 AM
it used to be my avitar,

whats your point


answer my question or get out old man
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on June 01, 2010, 05:46:36 AM
409 will rust up fairly fast.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: HiProfile on June 16, 2010, 09:54:23 PM
But it won't rust completely apart. It's just the ugliest form of protective oxide on common metals.

409 is okay when it won't get very hot, and you intend to wrap it up.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: snm95ls on June 16, 2010, 11:53:19 PM
So when are you going to start slinging manifolds, Buk?

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 24, 2010, 10:21:23 PM
So when are you going to start slinging manifolds, Buk?



idk soon

bought a regulator and had my bottle refilled (left it on while i was fucked up on some shit)

bought a size 10 cups just so i can be weir lol

im comfortable with a 7 ill rarely use a 5

should be buying some sheet metal and scrap metal tomorrow havent welded in a month or more...
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 24, 2010, 10:26:48 PM
Buk, log back off for at least another two months.

Thanks.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 24, 2010, 10:30:51 PM
Buk, log back off for at least another two months.

Thanks.

no sir.

going to the metal shop tomorrow and gonna have me some nice fab when i get the metal

for now i need to place another order of metal
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 24, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
best friend died the other day
kind of a wakeup call

meh

im on some bi polar meds now

cant wait to try welding while on the medication hands feel a lot firmer less shaking etc etc

we shall see
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Jorsher on June 25, 2010, 01:38:16 AM
I need a downpipe for a little t3 on my ls-vtech.

Make it happen.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 25, 2010, 02:10:01 AM
I need a downpipe for a little t3 on my ls-vtech.

Make it happen.

complete setup or bust.

you already got a miniram so your out

your such a nigger too cause i have a crx i can mock up everything on
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: chris on June 25, 2010, 04:14:48 AM
I need a downpipe for a little t3 on my ls-vtech.

Make it happen.



Ill do it and it will come with 9 pounds of plastic packing material
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on June 25, 2010, 05:47:01 AM
I need a downpipe for a little t3 on my ls-vtech.

Make it happen.

complete setup or bust.

you already got a miniram so your out

your such a nigger too cause i have a crx i can mock up everything on

But the important part of that is you can't weld.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on June 25, 2010, 06:57:17 AM
im on some bi polar meds now

They're medicating you for racial characteristics? 
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: ryan89crx on June 25, 2010, 10:17:26 AM
I need a downpipe for a little t3 on my ls-vtech.

Make it happen.

complete setup or bust.

you already got a miniram so your out

your such a nigger too cause i have a crx i can mock up everything on

But the important part of that is you can't weld.
lulz
Title: Re: buks welding thread
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You won't have much luck finding someone to give you money until you at least have proof that you can weld something together that works.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: michigan_soler on June 25, 2010, 05:30:52 PM
Buk, you still in detroit?   I need some shitty aluminum tacked togeter... haha
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 25, 2010, 08:29:13 PM
Buk, you still in detroit?   I need some shitty aluminum tacked togeter... haha

yeah im in detroitttttt
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: michigan_soler on June 25, 2010, 09:24:52 PM
Cool.  It will be a few weeks probably...
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: LS1pwNzJ00 on June 27, 2010, 01:15:10 AM
i dont think buk/buks welder can weld aluminum.  I may be wrong though.  hail Allahu Akbar
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on June 28, 2010, 01:30:30 AM
i dont think buk/buks welder can weld aluminum.  I may be wrong though.  hail Allahu Akbar

i can and did but it was thin shit and the amps were pretty low bleh

i  nigger rigged a welding table today which i will test out tomorrow
Title: Re: buks welding thread
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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: CSaddict on July 02, 2010, 06:00:08 AM
Well, the end of the world has arrived.  Good job!  Now throw out the Fisher price camera and get some decent pics.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Jorsher on July 02, 2010, 11:53:35 AM
Now make a fucking downpipe for me, sand negro
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on July 02, 2010, 08:58:24 PM
Well, the end of the world has arrived.  Good job!  Now throw out the Fisher price camera and get some decent pics.

lol its my tmobile g1...

welding sheet metal was 100000x easier than welding scd10 ss


lmao im thinking bout fabbing some battery boxes or some shit welding sheet metal actually gives me an adrenaline rush seeing the finished product is fun as fuck idk maybe catch cans?

maybe buy some cheap replacement rear quarters and try my hand at weldin them in?

bleh
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Hotrodlincoln on July 02, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
If you're gonna do exterior sheet metal, learn to metal finish, otherwise you'll have a quaterpanel that's a warped pile of shit. Hammer and dolly the weld-shrink. Practice on some junk first....
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: BoostedSchemes on July 02, 2010, 10:13:02 PM
i think you should start with roll cages, for you and your family
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: turbob16hatch on July 03, 2010, 12:29:54 AM
buk, quit trying to make things, those welds look like dick. :?:

sit down and weld sample coupons for hours, bead after bead until you can get a weld that doesn't look like you had your eye's closed while doing it.

Serious, your doing the same thing everyone that is self taught did, you trying to jump into things to far when you barely have a grasp on the concept of welding.  ???

Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on July 14, 2010, 10:07:48 PM
found a local place that sells sheet aluminum for retardedly cheap prices

4x10 22 gauge sheet is only 35 bucks

thinking bout buying a sheet and using it for rust repair.

ill update soon

im sure they have 20 gauge too
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on July 14, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
Aluminum for rust repair? How do you plan to atatch it? Jb weld? Rivets?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: rsmith2786 on July 14, 2010, 10:25:58 PM
He's going to weld it, clearly.  Haven't you seen the skillz!?  I suggest PVC filler rod.
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on July 14, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
I stopped following this thread a long time ago. Maybe I will go back and read some
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on July 15, 2010, 03:13:58 AM
whennnnnnnnnnn willll the shit talking endddddddddddddddddddd
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on July 15, 2010, 08:40:05 AM
When will you succeed in killing yourself?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on July 21, 2010, 07:18:30 PM
so ya... aluminum is a bitch to weld lol
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: ryan89crx on July 21, 2010, 07:33:36 PM
so ya... aluminum is a bitch to weld lol
Apparently so is stainless, carbon steel, etc. judging by your previous pics
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on July 21, 2010, 09:08:27 PM
so ya... aluminum is a bitch to weld lol
Apparently so is stainless, carbon steel, etc. judging by your previous pics

i welded alot more stainless and i can weld it just fine

its just settings that i gotta get right to weld the aluminum

plus i got the wrong filler rod for aluminum def not the same alloy lol
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: HiProfile on July 22, 2010, 02:12:52 AM
you trying to jump into things to far when you barely have a grasp on the concept of welding. 

He did that with the trailer and the other welder, and those turned out alright, right? Wait...




BTW for tungsten win:
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=92158&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName= (http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/itemdisplay/displayItem.do?itemid=92158&CategoryName=&SubCategoryName=)
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: jay on August 23, 2010, 07:45:09 AM
found a local place that sells sheet aluminum for retardedly cheap prices

4x10 22 gauge sheet is only 35 bucks

thinking bout buying a sheet and using it for rust repair.


wow i am so fucking retarded...
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: Joseph Davis on August 23, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
Can we please delete this mockery to all that is good in the world?
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: PhilStubbs on August 23, 2010, 12:29:57 PM
I think it's funny, in a train wreck kinda way
Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: 92CXyD on July 15, 2014, 08:18:52 AM
Speaking of train wrecks, saw this thread on another as some ones sig. "most epic thread- http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/for...?topic=13843.0 (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/for...?topic=13843.0)" and he is from Detroit like buk.

Read every thing and still laughing, is buk alive?

Will he ever get his welding skills?

 O0

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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: ratcityrex on July 15, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
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Title: Re: buks welding thread
Post by: 92CXyD on July 15, 2014, 04:08:21 PM
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That posted link is this thread  :noel: