:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Forced Induction => Topic started by: skaterdudz02 on July 21, 2010, 10:05:12 PM
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So far, I pretty much have everything I need to get this shit done. After building up that little pocket rocket hatch, I've decided more power and more displacement for the Accord.
This is my 3rd build on this one. First, auto, stock motor, 2nd, rebuilt stock motor w studs, and now onto my 3rd.
1st build never blew, 2nd, 20psi for 6 months daily busted ring, and now for the 3rd.
F23 motor
headstuds
new gaskets n such
clutch, flywheel
cheap turbo
3 inch downpipe
450cc injectors
10 psi
250 sound achievable?
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Do I really need more pics?
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Do I really need more pics?
A RHMT build thread can NEVER have too much porn. Unless it's rawr's or complex's page, which will include gay porn. Since yours has NO PORN, you still need to post more pics...
BTW I think 250 won't be hard for this setup. Here's a mildly powerful stock-bottom F22 I've seen in person:
http://www.ht-archive.org/showpost.php?p=28671639&postcount=57 (http://www.ht-archive.org/showpost.php?p=28671639&postcount=57)
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More pic's of the down pipe!
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How much can an accord really take on stock bottom end?
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You should be good with your goal. But do I see the downpipe welded onto the turbine housing?
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How much can an accord really take on stock bottom end?
400 has been done for a spell...
Back in the days I made 305/307 for around a year and TRIED to blow the f22b1 up... Broke a ringland turning the boost to nog without tuning, but blew a coupler in the proccess to where it would only make 19psi... NOT enough to lean it out and make it ping hard enough to consume itself... LOL.
Heres the piston I did fuck up...
(Yes thats a hole in the bottom off the pic LOL)
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Good to know i wanna trade my turbo civic for an accord in good shape, and do a rhmt setup but i did not want to be limited to 10 pussy psi or lower like a stock civic.
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Honestly, that's why I'm only just going to stud the head. These motors are just so beefy internally it's almost as if they were meant for boost from the factory.
Plus the f23 mains are bigger and today I pulled the pan off and definitely notice a stronger girdle than the f22.
Here are more dp pics as requested. And btw, I am no expert on welding, but I get the job done. Welds look better in person then anything. MIG ftl.
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Fuckthat, shits tite
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Fuckthat, shits tite
Not as tite as your shit spiker.
Anyone running 3 inches with a t3 setup?
How did you weld it up your adapter plates?
Use V band?
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Should. Be sweet . Ever thought about a h22 head on there ?
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250hp will be easy with that setup. my f22 will push about that when its done at 12 pounds on a t3 super 60. i always get happy seeing people realize the awesome that is the f series engines boost potential. kudos
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how well did the auto hold up to boost on your first setup? I feel like giving mine a shot.
I'm also dropping an F23 into my car (same as yours, just a 97) when I get some additional scratch to spare.
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I've been in the game on boosting f series blocks now for about 5 years.
I put 25k miles on the auto setup with a rinky dink turbo that spooled super quick. 7psi by 2k was intense. Tranny never blew. Daily drove the thing, had really no problems. In fact, it shifted 10x smoother when I was in boost then without.
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Motor is almost complete, all I need now are some gaskets and it's good to go.
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The wastegate recirc is going to affect flow out of th eturbo a bit, but the 3" will help. Too bad ya couldnt run it "over" the DP and dumped it further down at a better merge angle.
Looks good man
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dp is welded to the turbo with no flange? Thats fucking gangster!!
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The wastegate recirc is going to affect flow out of th eturbo a bit, but the 3" will help. Too bad ya couldnt run it "over" the DP and dumped it further down at a better merge angle.
Looks good man
I'm aware it'll affect it somewhat but I figured that would be the easiest way to get my A/C lines to clear without affecting. Plus, I'm going to welding in a bung for the WB. It's got an 8psi spring in it, so we'll see how it goes.
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dp is welded to the turbo with no flange? Thats fucking gangster!!
I know that shit is fucked up, but hey, it's not as bad as everyone thinks. It actually saves me a great deal of money. About 30 for the flange and gasket and the hassle of exhaust leaking.
Plus, if the turbo ever fucks up, disconnect the center section bolts and swap another one in.
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Fuck that theres not 1 thing wrong with it.
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The wastegate recirc is going to affect flow out of th eturbo a bit
Not on the nig nog setting, and since no other boost setting matters your argument is invalid.
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At 10n 15 PSI??? Taht close to the turbine??? I heard the same thing regarding mitches car. I was right....Youre invalid. Nigger
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At 10n 15 PSI??? Taht close to the turbine??? I heard the same thing regarding mitches car. I was right....Youre invalid. Nigger
On the nig nog setting the wastegate stays shut, so there is no disruption of flow. Are you saying you are afraid of the noggle switch, fat man?
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I've been in the game on boosting f series blocks now for about 5 years.
I put 25k miles on the auto setup with a rinky dink turbo that spooled super quick. 7psi by 2k was intense. Tranny never blew. Daily drove the thing, had really no problems. In fact, it shifted 10x smoother when I was in boost then without.
Awesome. Since my setup will consist of a rinky dink turbo that spools super quick, that should be pretty fun if the tranny holds it. Were you just running an FMU that whole time (I know I've seen pics of the FMU in the engine bay before)? I'm still debating to fuck with an AFC hack for a bit or to just install the adjustible FMU I have and adjust some shit with the AFC. OBD2 isn't very nice like that.
2.3L + SOHC + boost = win.
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At 10n 15 PSI??? Taht close to the turbine??? I heard the same thing regarding mitches car. I was right....Youre invalid. Nigger
On the nig nog setting the wastegate stays shut, so there is no disruption of flow. Are you saying you are afraid of the noggle switch, fat man?
Youve seen how afraid of it I am son
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At 10n 15 PSI??? Taht close to the turbine??? I heard the same thing regarding mitches car. I was right....Youre invalid. Nigger
On the nig nog setting the wastegate stays shut, so there is no disruption of flow. Are you saying you are afraid of the noggle switch, fat man?
Youve seen how afraid of it I am son
Yeah, you were pretty concerned that your EBC solenoid was connected correctly. Shadow, Russ, and I were looking at each other like, wtf? Why doesn't the fat man say fuck it and just cut all the lines to the wastegate like a real man?
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I've been in the game on boosting f series blocks now for about 5 years.
I put 25k miles on the auto setup with a rinky dink turbo that spooled super quick. 7psi by 2k was intense. Tranny never blew. Daily drove the thing, had really no problems. In fact, it shifted 10x smoother when I was in boost then without.
Awesome. Since my setup will consist of a rinky dink turbo that spools super quick, that should be pretty fun if the tranny holds it. Were you just running an FMU that whole time (I know I've seen pics of the FMU in the engine bay before)? I'm still debating to fuck with an AFC hack for a bit or to just install the adjustible FMU I have and adjust some shit with the AFC. OBD2 isn't very nice like that.
2.3L + SOHC + boost = win.
The tranny will hold, just do a small flush and get what you can out and put some lucas or some shit in there to help it. Just make sure when you start beating on it, that the tranny fluid is somewhat warm.
I used the FMU for over a year with check valves, then decided to try a chipped P28 on Neptune. That worked well for awhile, then the ecu blew for some reason, so then I ran stock ECU on about 3lbs with no problems for 6 months before I swapped. All times with stock injectors.
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Fmu+ 3psi= super FAIL!
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Shadow, Russ, and I were looking at each other like, wtf? Why doesn't the fat man say fuck it and just cut all the lines to the wastegateS like a real man?
Thanks for the lol..
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i have a spare head if anyone needs one f23 vtec buy it up for cheap!
shit looks gooooood
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i have a spare head if anyone needs one f23 vtec buy it up for cheap!
shit looks gooooood
If you'd said "I have a spare bottom end if anyone needs one" you'd have some more money in your pocket right now.
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Fmu+ 3psi= super FAIL!
Actually, with the FMU it was 8PSI, then the FMU took a shit so I took it off and ran just stock fuel system on 3 psi.
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Small update. Head is on and awaiting a torque.
Valve cover has been shaved, holes filled with luminum, and 5/8 inch breather ports going to my breather tank.
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Looks Hawt!
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Old motor out.
Lot of shit to transfer.
Motor should be in by tomorrow.
No pictures.
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:O)
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The only thing I'm semi worried about is the tune portion of this whole build.
I was probably just going to use your map you gave me years ago Brian and see where that takes me. It should fire up no problem. no?
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Update:
Motor runs.
Couple things left.
Fix oil line (Leaks a little), build cold charge pipe, finish exhaust. Little shit, but main thing is it runs and everything fits.
I'll have pics up later.
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Oil line is still leaking. I'm beat after a long week as it is. I've just decided to order some new feed line and fittings to smoothen things out. Anyways here's how it looks.
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I dig it. Its homemade without being horribly ghetto. Low cost, good results and self done.
Did you run it with out the new cover? The black one looks much cooler then the one that reminds everyone thats its got V-TAK
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I don't have my oil can setup fully complete so I popped on the stock VC just for now to get it running because I was press for time.
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Damn welded turbo looks pimp :noel:
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The welds on the turbo got a little fucked up, I didn't realize you could weld steel to aluminum like that so I gave it a whirl. O0
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ohh fuck ahahah nice, i would have clocked the turbo and ran a coupler but looks tits
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ohh fuck ahahah nice, i would have clocked the turbo and ran a coupler but looks tits
I tried clocking it however I could to make it fit best. Turns out the back side of the compressor is so close to the exhaust manifold making it difficult to clock it to some positions.
As for the car, had to order some more shit. So still waiting on that.
Car is a beast though and pulls like a fucking champ. I'm not used to the laggy turbo though. I get 10lbs at about 3500 which isn't bad considering the old turbo built full boost by 2500.
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more pictures of the alum to steel weld haha and rippers
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Finally got all the fucking leaks fixed. Turns out the oil pan was leaking so had to drop that bitch again.
I have one other picture at the moment of the weld. Not the greatest but it needed a shit load of heat and plenty of luminum to go around. NO LEAKS TOO.
I would have ripper vids by now, but the fucking coupler keeps blowing off. I bought some silicones with t-bolts and should have them soon so I'll one up ASAP. The bitch pulls like a charm though.
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Update.
Did a second, third, 4th gear rip and blew out cylinder. Motor runs, smokes through the VC, and cylinder 4 has 75 compression.
Time for a rebuild. FUKK
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Hahahha thats EXACTLY whatt happened to mine.. Still waked altima faggos on n2o spewiing oil all over them... HAHAHAHA
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Note detonation marks and hole thropugh piston from oil contamination...... LMAO... TRIED to blow it up turning the boost all the way up, but it blew a coupler before the motor wqould let go. That thing ran to its final resting place and pieces off the F are in my H to this day :O)
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Nice shit Brian.
I'm still driving the car, it still pulls hard at 14PSI; but I dunno what I'm going to do this next time around.
Prolly just do a stock rebuild on the f23.
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4g63 pistons and h23 rods
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I need a F crank pulley and bolt... Have 1?