:::RHMT::: Real Home Made Turbo
General Category => Engine Management => Topic started by: crxvtec91 on October 30, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
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looks like Don from RPM systems is coming out with his own setup for these ecus. http://www.j32a.com/showthread.php?p=14238#post14238 (http://www.j32a.com/showthread.php?p=14238#post14238)
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hopefully its cheaper than AEM
i really want to get into the J stuff
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im sure it will be cheaper than the AEM unit. But you also have to pay for all the time and money he put into it to get it where it is now.
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Don is a good guy, just cant wait for it to come out. My Hx-35 is going to make its way onto the j35 4dr :noel:
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MS3. ?
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MS3. ?
Does not appear to be.
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Local Hondaphile has been keeping tabs on this, and expecting a prototype soon, he really wants to boost his v-6.
Looks like I will involved in tuning his car when get one of these ecus.
Then he wants a m90 adapter from Weir and go racing this summer. :noel:
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M90 & j-series all shoved behind a civic/teg seat. My next dream.
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My roomate is trying to talk me into doing that to her ep3.
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We already to crank this J35 up and see what the limits are. I wonder if it will hold 20psi from the hx :evil:
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Sewell keeps claiming 600+whp is possible with stock blocks.
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Sewell claims many things, among them heterosexuality. WHO DO YOU BELIEVE??
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
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Sewell claims many things, among them heterosexuality. WHO DO YOU BELIEVE??
JD you up to tuning this thing?
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
CRX + 26 psi = wheelspin. Wheelspin = motor is not loaded, so it doesn't break. CRX = weighs nothing, so the motor is never loaded and it doesn't break.
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And, yeah, I'm J-curious. :P
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Its not the motor I would be worried about.
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
CRX + 26 psi = wheelspin. Wheelspin = motor is not loaded, so it doesn't break. CRX = weighs nothing, so the motor is never loaded and it doesn't break.
i am aware. probably how i managed to get a friends T-70 gsr to hold up for a year at 26psi/430whp(i know, kinda low power but it was a street tune) on pump gas. he sold it, they took it straight to the dyno where it blew up during tuning. this shop also split a 75mm sleeve with vitara pistons at 300whp. ::)
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
CRX + 26 psi = wheelspin. Wheelspin = motor is not loaded, so it doesn't break. CRX = weighs nothing, so the motor is never loaded and it doesn't break.
i am aware. probably how i managed to get a friends T-70 gsr to hold up for a year at 26psi/430whp(i know, kinda low power but it was a street tune) on pump gas. he sold it, they took it straight to the dyno where it blew up during tuning. this shop also split a 75mm sleeve with vitara pistons at 300whp. ::)
JD tune 45mpg, 408hp and 350ft /lbs
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I trade power for mpg. I suck like that.
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I trade power for mpg. I suck like that.
700 miles for under $60 in gas is win!
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If people are claiming 400whp DD stock gsr's, i would guess a J could do at least that with more torque. 93 octane would allow for over to 600whp given the extra displacement.
I do agree that the motor is not the weakest link. But at least the motors spin the right way, so adapting a stronger transverse trans is always a possibility.
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I did a 377whp daily driven GSR (in a hatch), lasted a couple years before the owner took the kit off due to lots of blowby. If those are uncorrected numbers, 400 is a shit ton of power, but I believe it.
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
CRX + 26 psi = wheelspin. Wheelspin = motor is not loaded, so it doesn't break. CRX = weighs nothing, so the motor is never loaded and it doesn't break.
That would normally be true, but the car lives on drag radials and is 91 Si thats not exactly light.. It was 09 Nscra drag radial champ. The car has a shit ton of passes on it. It made 13 passes in one night all between 117.-11.5 on the drag radials. The car dead hooks 3rd at 28lbs. So its not some unloaded bs. I'd put good money up that it would beat any other fwd honda on a real drag radial, on this site, including Spikers. And thats even with its almost 10yr old drag trubo kit.
Owner used to run the 11.5 index class with it. Its been mid 10's on a drag radial @ 130+. It has been turbo'd since 04, always been on a stock block, the first block cracked a sleeved in 06, on a super cold fl night, smacked boost cut real hard at 29lbs. That motor had almost 150 passes on it with countless street races. Threw another stock bottom end in, and even reused the head gasket. This current engine has over 100 passes on it and is still going strong.
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600 doesn't seem out of the question to me, but it's a shit load of power on any OEM N/A jap pistons.
He does beat the shit out of that yellow crx with the stock b16 at like 26psi. Maybe he knows something none of us do.
I know for a fact the J series are strong, i tuned a stock one years ago that broke 600. They make 300 stock, almost any engine with a decent tune will hold 15lbs, what makes anyone think that a stock one wont do that?
You guys are looking at it completely wrong, its all about cylinder pressure which pushes on the piston which pushed on the rods creating a twisting force on the crank, which is tq, from which hp is calculated from. A j32 making 600hp is like a gsr making 400hp, that's 100hp per cylinder. A j32 making 600hp is less hp per L(187hp/l) than a gsr making 400(222hp/L). Less hp per liter mean less cylinder pressure. Excessively high cylinder pressures is what breaks stuff, ie denotation.
As much as we love the 4cyl stuff, i really believe that honda built their 6cyls stronger, ie used in their at the time flagship model NSX. Which makes me think maybe they'll hold even more than most people think.
The v8 guys wont admit it but what were doing is quite amazing. What the better b series guys with relatively stock engines( ie head, block, crank) make alike 8-9hp per ci, thats on par with the badass current pro mod's. And it all come down to cylinder pressures, that means a b series car that goes 8's that uses a stock heads, crank, and block create and hold the same cylinder pressures as a pro mod. Think about it.
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How long b4 we see a "i need a built trans for my j motor" thread?
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How long b4 we see a "i need a built trans for my j motor" thread?
Hope that doesnt happen, the gears are 2-3 times thicker then a sohc. We just had the trans apart to replace a few parts with reverse as it was a freak accident that took it out.
sewell94 thanks for the info, with as cheap as these motors are we are going to push it hard!
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FreeEMS is rocking J fuel only from a single cam sensor, dude is happy with it so far, best MPG he's ever had and out drag racing without a tune and winning LOL. Read about it here:
http://forum.diyefi.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1560 (http://forum.diyefi.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1560)
I'll be adding proper support that can handle ignition and do semi sequential and wasted spark pretty soon and later in the year it'll support full sequential and COP at the same time. Currently limited to 6 precision outputs total (use them for whatever you want, 6 fuel or 6 ign or 3 of each).
Yes, it's 5am, always working hard :-)
Fred.
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Wow Fred, looks tits. J-series is definately a nice niche to get into. It's getting much more popular but still lacks options.
Now for that car, I presume it's a staged setup, what some people call compound boost?
Edit - looks like it's compound, but an odd configuration that might be restrictive. The typical routing would go big turbo outlet -> small turbo inlet then to the fmic, but with the same exhaust routing. But I guess if it works...
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im lurking all around all the j-series stuff.... just bought a AEM FIC used with extension harness.. but dont know if im going to use it.
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Damn that is so badass! BUT this is beyond my level of geek :'(
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Yeah, I don't like his setup either, but he does, and that's what counts! :-)
I'm a BIG fan of the borg warner design as used on various BMW and Ford diesels. I still want to build one of those one day.
Do you reckon I could sell a few J series plug'n'play setups if I had one drawn up? I could likely get him to test it for me :-)
Would be later in the year, though, before it was fully viable, so might be too late for the niche?
Fred.
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you might not make a killing, but i bet it would be well worth your time. J swaps are still new.
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Do you reckon I could sell a few J series plug'n'play setups if I had one drawn up? I could likely get him to test it for me :-)
Would be later in the year, though, before it was fully viable, so might be too late for the niche?
Fred.
I recall there being one EMS being developed, then there's MS & AEM, but MS is not plug & play and AEM = $$. If it can be tuned fairly easily with a turbo on it, it should be worth your time. Especially if you're still a broke-ass Assie. JD would give you a better idea, but he's MIA.
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Do you reckon I could sell a few J series plug'n'play setups if I had one drawn up? I could likely get him to test it for me :-)
Would be later in the year, though, before it was fully viable, so might be too late for the niche?
Fred.
I recall there being one EMS being developed, then there's MS & AEM, but MS is not plug & play and AEM = $$. If it can be tuned fairly easily with a turbo on it, it should be worth your time. Especially if you're still a broke-ass Assie. JD would give you a better idea, but he's MIA.
I thought Fred was a Kiwi. :noel:
J-series FreeEMS P-n-P would be sweet I can have 4 sold right now as long as they do not cost as much as AEM or the RPS's ecu (PnP MegaSquirt with a base tune already)
I have access to a local who is starting do a bit of J-swaps, just wish we had a chassis Dyno local to me. :'(
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I guess we'll see how the market looks later when the system is mature enough to market like that. Good to know, though :-)
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I guess we'll see how the market looks later when the system is mature enough to market like that. Good to know, though :-)
Lookup Ried and Andy at Kaizenspeed .com... Andy has a boosted J series to S2K tranny going in his s2k. Its being done very nicely and is quite a slick setup
http://htarchive.net/showthread.php?t=3017287 (http://htarchive.net/showthread.php?t=3017287)
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I have been wondering the last few days what tranny could be used with a J for rwd and had the starter on the tranny side. I'll keep that in mind. That's pricey though.
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That S2k looks great, but the alum spacer on the crank worries me a bit. It could bite them in the ass if they track the car.
I thought Fred was a Kiwi. :noel:
Damn, you're right. Hope you aren't insulted Fred. :P
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That does sound sketchy. That's a lot of stress on some long ass bolts
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That S2k looks great, but the alum spacer on the crank worries me a bit. It could bite them in the ass if they track the car.
Seriously wrap your brain around it....
Then type why its fine.
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Im dumb
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That S2k looks great, but the alum spacer on the crank worries me a bit. It could bite them in the ass if they track the car.
Seriously wrap your brain around it....
Then type why its fine.
Tell me why they don't use aluminum for gun parts that see lots of sheer forces, vibration, and heat. THen type why it's not fine how you're a dumbass.
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The bolts arent aluminum..
Would spacer expansion cause a problem? I mean there are aluminum flywheels and they seem to hold up with a larger radius.
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That S2k looks great, but the alum spacer on the crank worries me a bit. It could bite them in the ass if they track the car.
Seriously wrap your brain around it....
Then type why its fine.
Tell me why they don't use aluminum for gun parts that see lots of sheer forces, vibration, and heat. THen type why it's not fine how you're a dumbass.
And once again, you have proven your inability to understand the obvious. Enjoy being queer, and more of a retard than... well... ME. :-*
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Stock flywheels dont have alignment pins so the bolts take all the sheer forces, if the spacer expanded it would just make the bolts tighter i presume. I will admit those are some long ass bolts to hold a heavy spinning disk but the flywheel should take a majority of the shock loads otherwise it wouldnt be a flywheel by definition
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i wouldnt trust those bolts to hold that kind of force much above stock hp levels
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Fuck that :-/
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Pussies
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I wouldnt worry once its spinning the gyroscopic effect you know it as tq is keeping that disk right where its at.
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The aluminum can deform if a clutch grabs too hard, giving the bolts space/play to bend. An alum flywheel is thin where the bolts attach and a large radius around them, so the clamping force keeps the holes from deforming. That spacer has hardly a quarter inch beyond the holes on the TO bearing side where nothing braces it.
It's also between 2 parts that create lots of vibration - one can chatter, the other creates harmonic vibrations. Those WILL make it worse. Aluminum doens't work-harden either, it fatigues.
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Pussies
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Pussy
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1:25 in... DO IT.
The Wire: Bunk - "Know what the plural of pussy is?" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdY2MnDm48w#)
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Pussae
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FYI, FreeEMS has tested J series native decoding now. Works nicely. Only limitations are the rest of the system :-)
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FYI, FreeEMS has tested J series native decoding now. Works nicely. Only limitations are the rest of the system :-)
Awesome to here, so the kid (engine #10) in Wyoming w/ twin turbo v-6 accord got everything working well?
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Yeah, he sent me a datalog that looked good :-)
Later we'll knock out a fast-start version that uses both cams, but it only affects starting, and it's already pretty quick to start, so not a priority.
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Yeah, he sent me a datalog that looked good :-)
Later we'll knock out a fast-start version that uses both cams, but it only affects starting, and it's already pretty quick to start, so not a priority.
May need to get a hold of him, if I keep getting tuning J-series for boost inquiries. :noel:
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You could, or you could get hold of me! :-p
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You could, or you could get hold of me! :-p
Ok
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
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Word on the skreet is that Neptune is playing with J ecus
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
Made by Honda, or.... ? :-)
Got a J engine laying around?
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Several.
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Several.
Is this for your current build? Will you test the ecu like you test injectors?
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Several.
Is this for your current build? Will you test the ecu like you test injectors?
No and no, it's for profit.
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Bringing this back up. Just picked up a J35. Anyone have megasquirt experience with the J, or even without. I'm wondering how that would work out. I have a feeling Fred's ems is a little over my head still being sort of in its early stages.
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ran the numbers on the 600hp j35, a 400hp b18, and a 300hp 420a (only because its closer in bore size to the j35).
[benchracing]
6500rpm
j35 b18 420a
600hp 400hp 300hp
89mm 81mm 87.5mm
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ftlbs 484 323 242
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bmep 342 446 300
7500rpm
j35 b18 420a
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ftlbs 420 280 210
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bmep 297 387 259
[/benchracing]
thermally speaking id say its more then possible, mechcanically could be a different story. for the most part you wouldnt be doing anything crazier then running 300 though a 420a at 6500 which is done (on pump gas) all time.
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Bringing this back up. Just picked up a J35. Anyone have megasquirt experience with the J, or even without. I'm wondering how that would work out. I have a feeling Fred's ems is a little over my head still being sort of in its early stages.
i think i read somewere that this is already supported in the new ms3 firmware. im still trying to figure out why they would even bother supporting this engines trigger in ms3 if most of them seem to be DBW and will never be fully supported by ms anyway.
you can also use the native 12-0+1 if you grind off all but one tooth off the cam trigger http://msextra.com/doc/ms3/trigger-wheel.html#dualwheelcrankcam (http://msextra.com/doc/ms3/trigger-wheel.html#dualwheelcrankcam) in either case you would be a fag for using msIII. you could make it work in msII or just about anything else by adding a 36-1 crank trigger wheel, but thats a bitch and a half.
i think your best bet is to do msII and grind off all but one tooth from the cam and grind off all but 4 teeth from the crank and use 4-0+1. http://msextra.com/doc/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Dual.htm (http://msextra.com/doc/ms2extra/MS2-Extra_Dual.htm) then you could do sequential and all the other shit that never worked very well in megasquirt anyway.
after that youll need a cop driver (bocsh i guess). or you could build one half of the 12-pack, this would be a smaller addon board that has 6 msII ignition drivers on it. if you install the 36-1 you can use v6 EDIS wich i would say is the most reliable.
then youll need some way to get a throtal cable on it. im guessing an older non-DBW tb will have a regular honda pwm IAC on it. so idle stuff would be strait forward.
injectors and such i have no idea. if your boosting im guessing youll pull them out anyway. go high imp. so you wont have to mess with pwm holding and all that crap.
its hard to say which engines will be well supported by ms a which ones wont. in gerneral hondas are not because there are already so many other options. finding someone who has already done this (ie running well and is not all fucked up) will be key.
by the way all the best MS setups ive done use edis, it just stays synced up way better. rev limits, 2-step, and all the other crap just have to be sacrificed to stay synced. i think its a small price for not having to say "well a butterfly flaped its wings in africa today and now my car runs like shit"
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Interesting stuff. I'll read it better when I haven't been drinking. Quite a few J's use cable throttles and there is always the option of swapping out a DBW TB for a cable one. If you are swapping the engine and running it on MS, I'm sure a TB swap is easy enough.
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So, this with a bunch of pins ground off of the cam/crank wheels and an edis will run it?
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirtii-programmable-efi-system-pcb30-kit-black-case-p-119.html (http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/megasquirtii-programmable-efi-system-pcb30-kit-black-case-p-119.html)
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if you want edis you have to install a 36-1 trigger wheel on the crank. sometimes this is easy, most times it isnt. it looks like the j35 has an remote damper (ie the mass of the accessoris do the damping) so it cannot be attached to the piece that the belt rides on it has to be bolted and welded to the center of the damper. bolted to make sure everything lines up, welded to make sure it dosnt go anywere.
to grind some teeth off and run with the trigger wheels and vr sensors that are already there, you'll need a bosch COP driver or half the twelve-pack driver. its hard for me to tell from the pictures but the coils do not look internaly driven. 2-pin = extrnal driver, 3-pin = internal driver. mabye theres some oem honda manuals on the i-net that can tell you more.
from the little bit of research i did, it seemed that most of them were DBW and no distibutor.
this is whut i am basing most of this on.
http://cl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14153193 (http://cl.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14153193)
http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=39347 (http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=131&t=39347)
from what i could tell the j32 has a 12-0 and j35 has a 24-2 trigger wheel but you should be able to turn either one into a 4-0+1 and make it work.
i keep bringing up the edis option because it is sure fire, and if you grind the shit out of your oem triggers and just cant make it work you can just slap the 36-1 onto the crank pully and not have to mess with it. i not trying to sway you one way or the other im just saying that alot of the more sucessful ms jobs ive seen will go this way when there is an odd ball trigger involed.
ms can sync with the 36-1 directly (no edis bullshit) though the vr input. you may still need the coil drivers, but you'll have your rev limits and 2-step back. and you wont have a big fat ford coil pack and O0 rig spark plug wires hanging off your engine.
more over what im getting at is, there dosnt seem to be anyone who has accually completed one of these projects using ms. i may very well be wrong because it seems they have supported it in the new firmware, but i cant find an example anywere, which would leed me to believe it has not been done. and there for no one with real knowlege on how to do it. all i can really do is lay out some options...
36-1 crank trigger wheel =
good- works for sure, has rev limits
bad- need to find coil driver
36-1 and edis =
good- works for sure, sync's well
bad- must fit ford coil pack and make wires, no rev limits other then 11,000.
4-0+1 =
good - no trigger wheel to fuck with, has rev limits, will do sequental and some other cool stuff
bad - DOSNT WORK FOR SURE, nothing sucks more then driving around in a car that wont sync.
a had a laugh when i found this.
http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/06/meet-the-worlds-only-street-freak-civic/ (http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/06/meet-the-worlds-only-street-freak-civic/)
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http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/06/meet-the-worlds-only-street-freak-civic/ (http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/06/meet-the-worlds-only-street-freak-civic/)
Aaron Weir help build the first S/C J-series, back in '10
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I see, misunderstood. I'm not willing to deal with a car that randomly won't run right, but I really want a rev limiter and launch control. I might have to scrap the idea of using this engine in a grm $20XX challenge car and run aem ems and just build it as a toy.
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This kinda perked my interest
http://www.j32a.com/showpost.php?p=15650&postcount=8 (http://www.j32a.com/showpost.php?p=15650&postcount=8)
I wasn't actually looking for that solution, but it popped up. I don't mind batch firing the injectors too much and I'm a huge Neptune fan. I wonder if the Hondata CPR could be used to keep the individual coils.
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I fail to see why anyone would put a 36-1 trigger on a car and then not run a Ford ECU.
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I had a quick thought about swapping to a different manufacturer ecu, then forgot as all this MS talk happened. Ford tuning options are plentiful. That might be the way to go, how are there v6 ecu's? Or can the v8 stuff run v6? Kinda makes sense that it could, but I'm just good with a laptop, I don't really understand the hardware or coding end of it
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Use Ford V-6 ecus for SC Thunderbirds before '96, Quaterhorse setup should work then.
I know a guy using QuarterHourse with his SC T-bird and either HX40 or HX35 (he has not decided yet) :noel:
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Were they COP back then? I have been back in the airplane business for quite a while now and my car repair memories are shot. I'm sure it would all come back if I got back in a shop, but my only car work is tuning the local Hondas anymore.
Also, can you run 3 wire coils with a 2 wire ecu? Maybe I could find honda coils that fit and are 2 wire, maybe the ones I have are 2 wire. I'm just thinking out loud since I'm at work and can't confirm anything right now.
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No COP, EDIS I think.
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Oh, right. I do remember that now. Hmmm.... I guess I try random plug wires I have laying around and see if they work in the J
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What about this: http://www.diyautotune.com/ms3-pro.html (http://www.diyautotune.com/ms3-pro.html) I know it is above budget, but I saw this.
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Not a bad solution, but pricey.
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Not a bad solution, but pricey.
Yeah reminds of the Spectre's Phantom Engine Management, which was a pnp version of MS2 but was priced at $800 and up. :noel:
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I'm thinking at that price level I could go with a serious stand alone.
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I had a quick thought about swapping to a different manufacturer ecu, then forgot as all this MS talk happened. Ford tuning options are plentiful. That might be the way to go, how are there v6 ecu's? Or can the v8 stuff run v6? Kinda makes sense that it could, but I'm just good with a laptop, I don't really understand the hardware or coding end of it
You might need an entire Ford donor. IAT, EC, harness for connectors, etc. You do that, or get a Free EMS, and I'll help you make it work.
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My original plan was free ems, but I know my limits. If you want to hold my hand I'm down. <3
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In this case, money/brains aside, freeems may be a better option if someone already has it running on a j.
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It's actually a very budget friendly solution, but well above my head. We will see how it pans out though.
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this may interest some of you...
http://www.v6performance.net/forums/thread215581-14.html (http://www.v6performance.net/forums/thread215581-14.html)
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MS3 might support it, but we did it first, and likely did it better, knowing those useless fucking clowns! :-)
I wouldn't recommend FreeEMS for a n00b learning experience either, not yet.
Grinding off teeth from a perfectly good signal because MS2/MS1 don't support it is a wretched idea.
Running MS3 is a wretched idea too, what a complete piece of shit.
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Fred.
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Sorry Fred, freeems is over my head, but what about MS-1 and this for spark on the J?
http://fueltechpr.com/tienda/sparkpro/spark-pro-6-detail (http://fueltechpr.com/tienda/sparkpro/spark-pro-6-detail)
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free ems is way over my head too..
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free ems is way over my head too..
x3 even for someone like my self that deals with computers and some coding its way about my skill set.
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I cannot believe a thread in my forum has become populated by pussies too scared to try.
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I have a couch with your name on it, I ain't scurred to spend $30 at radio shack, lets do it!
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In all seriousness though, I have been reading up on that ford edis deal. Is it really as simple as a 36-1 crank wheel, VR sensor and a signal from the ecu to say go?
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It's a variable signal to modulate more/less than the base 10*, but yes.
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I cannot believe a thread in my forum has become populated by pussies too scared to try.
LOL!! Plus one.
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
Still need one?
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
Still need one?
You need to do a proper intro post but I'm not gonna bash on you to much about it because your screen name makes me lmfao.
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
Still need one?
You need to do a proper intro post but I'm not gonna bash on you to much about it because your screen name makes me lmfao.
he almost just got banned cuz of it... if it is a joke then ok. if not im banning.
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Which one of your nignogs is going to send me a J-series ECU?
Still need one?
You need to do a proper intro post but I'm not gonna bash on you to much about it because your screen name makes me lmfao.
he almost just got banned cuz of it... if it is a joke then ok. if not im banning.
Made me lol
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Intro post, like an introduction in AA? Lol
Ban me because of my user name? I dont see nothing wrong with it. Or do you think im makin fun of hondas? I have a j32 hatch so I doubt I am.
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Follow the link.
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,25.0.html (http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,25.0.html)
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Intro post, like an introduction in AA? Lol
Ban me because of my user name? I dont see nothing wrong with it. Or do you think im makin fun of hondas? I have a j32 hatch so I doubt I am.
i have 2 hondas... my job revolves around them.... and i still make fun of them.
ricers annoy me.
yes, just like your AA meetings (and im not talking shit about AA). we require that you share. we are a community.
edit. and i click on all new users names looking for spamers to ban them, so its was mostly a joke.
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Yeah, I need.