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can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« on: September 06, 2010, 04:26:07 PM »
I've never had one side by side, I know you can swap final drives but I need the stock ls gear ratios so thats out. Any other ideas other then just getting a m-factory lsd?
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2010, 05:51:47 PM »
use a B16A LSD...
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2010, 05:52:13 PM »
I was told from m-factory that a b16 diff lsd will fit LS trans. You will need to shave some of the trans case.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2010, 05:54:27 PM »
really? I was told the b16a factory lsd had a different bolt pattern then the regular open b16 diff.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2010, 07:07:05 PM »
It will work just fine if you use a GSR final drive set.

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The bolt pattern for the ring gear is the main thing that keeps the ITR LSD from working with an LS transmission.  The GSR/ITR use a larger bolt pattern ring gear than B16/B17/LS ring gear.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2010, 07:22:03 PM »
yes, the itr has a 116.8mm whole in the gear and the ls is 109mm. Can a guy machine down a itr diff and redrill the bolt pattern? Is the flange were the ring gear sits the same hight?
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2010, 10:16:01 PM »
use GSR FD and CS with LS gears????

only 3% difference

7000 rpms with LS FD = 7200 rpms with GSR FD......
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2010, 10:20:53 PM »
B16/B17 has 130mm bolt pattern and 110mm crown opening

http://www.quaife.co.uk/sites/default/files/drawings/QDF1U.pdf

GSR/ITR has 138mm bolt pattern and 117mm crown opening

http://www.quaife.co.uk/sites/default/files/drawings/QDF6U.pdf

Kiwi at GearX was telling me they had tried making the ring gears with 117mm crorn opening and dual bolt patterns without issues.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM »
I have thought of that but I'm already under geared for what I want. Supposedly a y1 jdm lsd diff fits, but from what I hear they are one piece (cant take off the ring gear??) and that could be tough to find.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2010, 10:22:41 PM »
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
I have thought of that but I'm already under geared for what I want. Supposedly a y1 jdm lsd diff fits, but from what I hear they are one piece (cant take off the ring gear??) and that could be tough to find.

Quaife/MFactory/OBX.....ITR diffs are weak anyways.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2010, 10:23:13 PM »
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:20:53 PM
B16/B17 has 130mm bolt pattern and 110mm crown opening

http://www.quaife.co.uk/sites/default/files/drawings/QDF1U.pdf

GSR/ITR has 138mm bolt pattern and 117mm crown opening

http://www.quaife.co.uk/sites/default/files/drawings/QDF6U.pdf

Kiwi at GearX was telling me they had tried making the ring gears with 117mm crorn opening and dual bolt patterns without issues.

good info!  :yes:
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2010, 10:24:36 PM »
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
I have thought of that but I'm already under geared for what I want. Supposedly a y1 jdm lsd diff fits, but from what I hear they are one piece (cant take off the ring gear??) and that could be tough to find.

Quaife/MFactory/OBX.....ITR diffs are weak anyways.

yes but there is no way this build will break it, lol.  I was trying to be cheap as I dont need to pay for the overkill on parts
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2010, 10:26:28 PM »
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
I have thought of that but I'm already under geared for what I want. Supposedly a y1 jdm lsd diff fits, but from what I hear they are one piece (cant take off the ring gear??) and that could be tough to find.

Quaife/MFactory/OBX.....ITR diffs are weak anyways.

yes but there is no way this build will break it, lol.  I was trying to be cheap as I dont need to pay for the overkill on parts

Like using LS rods in a D16 when after the costs they end uo costing more that the cheap H beams.

Stock ITR power can break the ITR LSD.....

Quit being a broke dick :)
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2010, 10:30:29 PM »
lol, yes you are right. I think a mfactory will be on the list. The price of this piece of shit car is really adding up quick  :?:
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2010, 10:35:15 PM »
Why I stayed SOHC.....I'm a brokedick :)
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2010, 10:37:55 PM »
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
Why I stayed SOHC.....I'm a brokedick :)

They fit into my chassis too easy, what fun is that? lol.
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2010, 10:39:04 PM »
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
Why I stayed SOHC.....I'm a brokedick :)

They fit into my chassis too easy, what fun is that? lol.

And with a cheap holset make more power...  :-*
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2010, 10:48:33 PM »
Quote from: dvst8r on September 06, 2010, 10:39:04 PM
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:35:15 PM
Why I stayed SOHC.....I'm a brokedick :)

They fit into my chassis too easy, what fun is that? lol.

And with a cheap holset make more power...  :-*

fuck a t25 would make moar power  :P
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Re: can a itr lsd diff be modded to fit a ls?
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2010, 01:15:51 PM »
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:26:28 PM
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:24:36 PM
Quote from: crttaz on September 06, 2010, 10:22:41 PM
Quote from: highroller54 on September 06, 2010, 10:22:05 PM
I have thought of that but I'm already under geared for what I want. Supposedly a y1 jdm lsd diff fits, but from what I hear they are one piece (cant take off the ring gear??) and that could be tough to find.

Quaife/MFactory/OBX.....ITR diffs are weak anyways.

yes but there is no way this build will break it, lol.  I was trying to be cheap as I dont need to pay for the overkill on parts

Like using LS rods in a D16 when after the costs they end uo costing more that the cheap H beams.

Stock ITR power can break the ITR LSD.....

Quit being a broke dick :)

i havent broken mine yet.... :-\
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