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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2012, 11:57:10 AM »

We're thinking $449/set for Tom's larger injectors, $425 for mine. :evil:



The price will probably be HALF that or less for 4.

So about for $225/4 for Tom's large injectors?

How large is large?

What batt offsets would be used for these?

When will they be available?

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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2012, 12:39:38 PM »

FUCK YOU!

I want a set!

No chance of getting high-tech and matching them according to dead times, amirite?

How do you think they "Match" the dead times?? Its not that high tech, lol.  Marketing :)
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2012, 12:46:18 PM »

We're still unable to accurately test flow. Tom and I are kinda working together but independently. His should be the same as ID1000's, so ~880cc. Mine should be ~725cc. A member here has offered to test some on an ASNU bench.

Batt offsets will basically match ID and FIC's numbers since they're virtually the same cores. Not exactly, but very close. The injector controller I'm building will let us flow with deadtime figured in, so it can be tested "dynamically". Had to get at least one buzzword in there. Tom told me they don't even check deadtime anymore, they just flow/match them dynamically. Marketing is right.


Russ, you'd have to PM Tom about price. I know Tom was going to include top hat extenders. I will say you're near the ballpark.
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2012, 12:49:33 PM »

Highway robbery without a sweet sticker

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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2012, 01:00:34 PM »

In that case I'll someone drop-ship this if anyone complains:



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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2012, 01:14:23 PM »

I can make that a reality.

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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2012, 01:31:16 PM »

I didnt say that they dont match deadtimes.  The amount of data points is smaller now, ie from 10 to 3.

Simplified spoon feeding comming up.....

Basically if you match an injector at full flow, and then match and injector at 2 more points, say 3ms and 7ms. They will be matched by deadtime.  There really only is 2 variables in how much fuel an injector will flow when pulsed , how much they flow and how long it takes for them to open and close, ie latency/dead time/ blah blah.  If the injectors all flow the same at full flow, that means the injectors flow the same so your down to the other variable, latency.  There is some other stuff(like high and low slope on the new ford ecus, etc etc) but for old honda ecus this is the basics of it.
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2012, 02:16:46 PM »

hurry up and sell me a set  ;)
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2012, 02:31:53 PM »


My late Christmas gift.
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »

We're thinking $449/set for Tom's larger injectors, $425 for mine. :evil:



The price will probably be HALF that or less for 4.
If (set == 8 )
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else
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half price for half the product oh yeah!
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2012, 02:49:13 PM »

We're thinking $449/set for Tom's larger injectors, $425 for mine. :evil:



The price will probably be HALF that or less for 4.
If (set == 8 )
  iBuy();
else
  fuckYou();

half price for half the product oh yeah!

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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2012, 03:08:47 PM »

Whats the possibility you guys could do 1600-2000cc injectors??? Im gonna need a set for the hatch. I think its time to start putting this hoe back together.
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2012, 05:04:53 PM »

I'm going to try pressing the plunger into the armature like some other companies do. It should increase flow a lot, but I don't have much hope for it tho.

The chance of making it possible means you have to do this very precisely and/or in large batches. I don't have a supplier let alone the money to invest in a pallet of injectors.
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Re: Santa came late this year...
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2012, 07:50:35 PM »

High and low slope is just a method of dealing with alinearity as injector pulsewidth decreases.  Set the high slope to match injector flow, and breakpoint/low slope is a quick and easy trial and error, but low slope is always a little higher than actual flow.
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