Topic: Getting ready to start on the AWD Escort build - What motor? (Read 4850 times)

carkrazed · « **on:** May 09, 2012, 01:31:49 PM »

Decided to ditch the BP all together. I am torn between using an F20c or a 3SGTE.

I already have an F20c just sitting here so that would be the main reason I am considering it.

3SGTE can easily make the power levels that I want, Plus, no need for an adapter plate, I just bolt the bitch up.

Or post up any crazy ideas u might have.

rawr · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2012, 02:58:54 PM »

3sgte or fuck you.

+ Honda management

krazy4 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2012, 03:53:09 PM »

Just out of curiosity why did you ditch the BP?

I'd probably run the F20.
How much power do you want to make?

rawr · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2012, 04:10:35 PM »

Shut your f20 piehole, hondafag.

I need 3s porn. I've got a 3s Breakout board for ms2 ill sell you. Should work with ms3 with some Hood swank.

Dirty_Mech_Style · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2012, 06:31:42 PM »

22re

Phate · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2012, 09:31:32 PM »

1MZ-FE.

jabberwock · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2012, 09:46:17 PM »

t_cel_t · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2012, 09:48:59 PM »

7a-gzte

jabberwock · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2012, 10:08:15 PM »

20b rotary

Teg2boo · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2012, 11:03:45 PM »

amd-k7

SloS13 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2012, 04:02:49 PM »

Diesel SMART car motor. OFFROAD BEAST!!!

krazy4 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2012, 04:24:24 PM »

Quote from: carkrazed on May 09, 2012, 10:06:02 PM

Fuck it, i'll just put an LS4 in it

That'd be awesome!

ratcityrex · « **Reply #12 on:** May 14, 2012, 09:06:15 PM »

Fuck all these other ideas. Just make an adapter and bolt in the f20. They make great power in stock form, with boost of course.

rawr · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2012, 11:10:25 AM »

you can get a 3sge for cheap and they'll hold about the same amount of power + big port heads on the OG 3sge

rawr · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:12:18 AM »

Actually the first Gen has the tvis and the massive ports. The third Gen beams is pricy as shit but the best 3s motor is the WRC 3sgte. That's the sorted out non shit motor That has no crank issues

rawr · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2012, 11:35:06 AM »

st 205 wrc or the one out of the caldnia. Might be better if you can find someone willing to just sell a long block or maybe you can recoup some money off of all of the homo toyota turbo shit attached to the block.

or if you're going to end up fabbing shit anyway... I've seen a lot of first gen 3sges for like 300-400 dollars. None up right now, though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/94-99-Toyota-Celica-Engine-JDM-3SGE-ST202-DOHC-2-0L-16V-/380438832967?hash=item5893ebe747&item=380438832967&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

rawr · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:07:10 PM »

blocks are fine cranks develop hairline cracks, oil pumps have a tendency to die/run low pressure because toyota used some ungodly thick spec oil they got for dirt cheap and toleranced the oil pumps accordingly. I've never had a problem with a crank, but JD and rob have both seen the issues on 7m's and first gen 3s motors. Blocks are stout as fuck.

92CXyD · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2012, 12:49:22 PM »

Quote from: carkrazed on May 22, 2012, 12:41:49 PM

So a st205 bottom with a 165 top is the ticket?

Yeap or just keep the whole ST205 just to simplify things.

rawr · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2012, 01:31:53 PM »

Quote from: carkrazed on May 22, 2012, 12:41:49 PM

So a st205 bottom with a 165 top is the ticket?

Technically not sure if the cooling/oil passages are the same. I assume they are. However tvis is a vac clusterfuck. Probably better to just throw some cams in an 205 motor

malichite · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2012, 07:40:56 PM »

D15 and 10lbs!

rawr · « **Reply #20 on:** May 23, 2012, 08:26:09 PM »

I'd talk to mr2guru. He's the 3s king.

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 24, 2012, 11:15:11 AM »

Quote from: rawr on May 23, 2012, 08:26:09 PM

I'd talk to mr2guru. He's the 3s king.

JD still has the highest stock block record if I recall right.

rawr · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2012, 09:06:26 AM »

fuck yeah! How did you find a 2g 3sge in a parts yard? I didn't know we got them state side.

rawr · « **Reply #23 on:** May 29, 2012, 03:51:43 PM »

if it says yamaha on the timing cover its a swap. Toyota hid the fact that yamaha made their performance motors in the US.

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