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who does Autocross? What suspension?
« on: May 13, 2010, 10:58:18 AM »

just getting an idea of what setups you guys may have, thinking about getting another civic, maybe hatch. and i want to make it handle well, and not all stiff and bouncy like my current setup. but also want to be able to drive it in the winter
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 12:52:13 PM »

Ground controls and koni yellows

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 01:43:08 PM »

i  refuse to believe thats the best there is
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 03:58:30 PM »

Motons + GC, but Koni's are enough
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 04:09:31 PM »

http://www.redshiftmotorsports.com/RedShift%20Tech%20Page.htm



JRZ according to super duper track whore are hands down the best but at a price tag in the 3000 dollar range for setups you better enjoy turns.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 04:20:35 PM »

Alot of people swear by pic for the price, I like mine but I dont autoX, none around me :(
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 04:52:40 PM »

http://www.redshiftmotorsports.com/RedShift%20Tech%20Page.htm



JRZ according to super duper track whore are hands down the best but at a price tag in the 3000 dollar range for setups you better enjoy turns.

eight year old info, there have been improvements since.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 04:58:05 PM »

if you want high end stuff look at ohlins. on the low end there is buddyclub N+ are a good choice.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 05:01:30 PM »

im not looking for the best stuff, just decent quality for the price. 
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 05:03:38 PM »

Then koni yellow/ground control its proven and if you think that set up is to pricey get some cdm coilovers and join a lowrider club.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 05:04:56 PM »

yep for the price i would do bc n+, if you look around you can find them for 800ish and that right around what youd spend for a gc/koni combo
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 06:07:17 PM »

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 08:25:45 PM »

i  refuse to believe thats the best there is
im not looking for the best stuff, just decent quality for the price. 

Hrm, contradiction?

Buy the koni/gc's you idiot. Theres nothing that will touch them unless you jump up big in price.  You obviously wouldn't be able to tell the difference between $800 struts/coils and a set of $3000 coilovers, as you just made this thread.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 08:44:23 PM »

I like my Eibach Pro Street S coilovers, but I got them for a hell of a deal.

GC/Koni or GC/Bilstein with custom valving gets my vote.

OTS Bilsteins are pretty easy to convert to fully rebuildable units, and supposedly Bilstein is very helpful when if comes to help with revalving.

That is unless you have copious amounts of money to spend, but you better have the skill and experience to take advantage of it.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 10:31:20 PM »

Personally I like penske's, but again that is getting into the pricey range of things.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2010, 10:43:13 PM »

Personally I like penske's, but again that is getting into the pricey range of things.

nice but more money then a couple civics, lol.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 10:57:44 PM »

just getting an idea of what setups you guys may have, thinking about getting another civic, maybe hatch. and i want to make it handle well, and not all stiff and bouncy like my current setup. but also want to be able to drive it in the winter

you aren't going to be competetive without much stiffer than stock springs.  handles well = shit ride on public roads

get a big ass rear sway bar if you want to spend as little as possible for the most improvement on turn in, that is if your class allows it
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2010, 02:31:52 AM »

H&R race springs and Koni yellows are the min., like my CRX has on it. I might have done well in STS2 at SCCA Nationals....with a better driver.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 02:50:02 AM »

H&R race springs and Koni yellows are the min., like my CRX has on it. I might have done well in STS2 at SCCA Nationals....with a better driver.



Nobody has mentioned the most important part yet.

Tires.

Good tires make a HUGE difference.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 04:02:37 AM »

you mean like 225/45/13 Ho-Ho A6's?????

My rubber is covered, only has two events on them.

Toledo and Nats.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 04:14:42 AM »

Cool story, Bone.

I gotta run the shitty old B-stone RE-11s. 

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 08:20:41 AM »

i  refuse to believe thats the best there is
im not looking for the best stuff, just decent quality for the price. 

Hrm, contradiction?

i guess, i meant best bang for the buck. i have eibach road race springs on my civic now, they are really stiff. obviously that means shitty on the road. i just didnt know if there was some other shit that was good and not $1500. i thought about the bilsteins too, just not sure if the sports could control my springs.


does anyone know if i could just find some threaded collars, so i could raise my shit up a bit?
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 09:56:39 AM »

i  refuse to believe thats the best there is
im not looking for the best stuff, just decent quality for the price. 

Hrm, contradiction?
... i thought about the bilsteins too, just not sure if the sports could control my springs.


does anyone know if i could just find some threaded collars, so i could raise my shit up a bit?

Revalve.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 11:45:34 AM »

sccaforums.com

go to the forsale section.

I picked up 4 GC springs (380's and 430's)  for $100.

there was a set of revalved koni's for an EG on there with springs cheap a few weeks ago.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 04:46:59 PM »

snm98ls summed it up.

Er, Blake, not to argue but the guy who won the Wolf Laurel Hillclimb last year (EH hatch, in the rain, but he still managed to three wheel every corner) is a daily driven Civic.  It feels smooth on the road.   His buddy's 86 CRX hillclimb car has 27mm torsion bars and 600lb rear springs, feels great on the road too.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2010, 05:41:07 PM »

i have 600 lb rear springs in the eg and i sure as hell wouldn't call the ride smooth, even with the koni yellows on full soft.  especially with the roads around here
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2010, 05:51:10 PM »

1000 pound rears are a blast on bad roads
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2010, 06:02:48 PM »

you cant go fast at the track and have a nice ride on the way home unless you have some cash to spend, gota comprimise one way or the other.
i still vote for n+ they are pre load and hight ajustable and comp. ajst. koni/gc are just preload and comp.
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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2010, 10:21:09 AM »

i have 600 lb rear springs in the eg and i sure as hell wouldn't call the ride smooth, even with the koni yellows on full soft.  especially with the roads around here


Haha.  Not to be mean, sir, but there's a bit of a quality difference between the Honda a 45 year old man who's a BMW driving instructor drives and what somebody off a lowrent trash site like ours drives.   Your car is fun, his is too but he's spent a lot more money on it.

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Re: who does Autocross? What suspension?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2010, 10:35:32 AM »

Im gonna go ahead and say if you can get a set of GC coilovers with some revalved konis or bilsteins thats probably the best for the money
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