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[TheMadScientist]

Better?

Yes
Great? No 

[chris]

I can't imagine any n/a build under 3L being fun to drive.

That car with correct traction will run low 12's high 11's. You obviously have not been around shit for Honda's with such a retarded statement


There is a reason the all motor classes are always full at events. Now if you tell me 11 sec street cars suck you are banned.

Sucks that it takes that much to make a NA honda run that time.  Takes a LS1 camaro 4:30 gears and 555r's and no engine mods what so ever, to run 12.0 and 11.9

Did you not get your sweet and sour corn flakes this morning sir?

[TheMadScientist]

I can't imagine any n/a build under 3L being fun to drive.

That car with correct traction will run low 12's high 11's. You obviously have not been around shit for Honda's with such a retarded statement


There is a reason the all motor classes are always full at events. Now if you tell me 11 sec street cars suck you are banned.

Sucks that it takes that much to make a NA honda run that time.  Takes a LS1 camaro 4:30 gears and 555r's and no engine mods what so ever, to run 12.0 and 11.9

Did you not get your sweet and sour corn flakes this morning sir?

LOL

That camaro would be such a gas hog.
Had a friend with 4:11? gears in his camaro that thing got terrible gas mileage. Definetly not an economical daily driver.

[LS1pwNzJ00]

I can't imagine any n/a build under 3L being fun to drive.

That car with correct traction will run low 12's high 11's. You obviously have not been around shit for Honda's with such a retarded statement


There is a reason the all motor classes are always full at events. Now if you tell me 11 sec street cars suck you are banned.

Sucks that it takes that much to make a NA honda run that time.  Takes a LS1 camaro 4:30 gears and 555r's and no engine mods what so ever, to run 12.0 and 11.9

Did you not get your sweet and sour corn flakes this morning sir?

LOL

That camaro would be such a gas hog.
Had a friend with 4:11? gears in his camaro that thing got terrible gas mileage. Definetly not an economical daily driver.

Ahh the gas milage excuse, second only to the hp/L arguement

[ratcityrex]

Scott are v8 camaro's quick......
they are ok in my book, but I can not stand the huge fucking hump in the floorboard on the pass side. And the 4ft long windshield is retarded to look through.

Are all motor NA hondas quick?
Most are not. And most are shit box rattle cans.


Can they both be cool cars?
Yes they can.


Are most camaro's and hondas shit boxes that you see on the street?
Yes they are.


Do they both have there place?
Yes.


On that note, I would rather road race a shit boxed out honda with a hi comp na bulid over a v8 camaro anyday.

With that said I would rather bang gears in a v8 camaro down 1/4 mile any day over a na honda.

[TheMadScientist]

Ahh the gas milage excuse, second only to the hp/L arguement

That really only applies to when you put those stupid short gears in. With the stock gearing they're not too bad. Not too great, but not too bad at all. You can actually drive a stock geared camaro daily without going broke if you can keep your foot out of it.
HP/L argument is just dumb for going fast. It's just bragging rights that's all. It's just there in an attempt too point out how inferior the V8 is.

On that note, I would rather road race a shit boxed out honda with a hi comp na bulid over a v8 camaro anyday.

With that said I would rather bang gears in a v8 camaro down 1/4 mile any day over a na honda.

+1

[Joseph Davis]

I can't imagine any n/a build under 3L being fun to drive.

That car with correct traction will run low 12's high 11's. You obviously have not been around shit for Honda's with such a retarded statement


There is a reason the all motor classes are always full at events. Now if you tell me 11 sec street cars suck you are banned.

Sucks that it takes that much to make a NA honda run that time.  Takes a LS1 camaro 4:30 gears and 555r's and no engine mods what so ever, to run 12.0 and 11.9

Did you not get your sweet and sour corn flakes this morning sir?

LOL

That camaro would be such a gas hog.
Had a friend with 4:11? gears in his camaro that thing got terrible gas mileage. Definetly not an economical daily driver.

Ahh the gas milage excuse, second only to the hp/L arguement

I'm partial to the every stock LSx has a bearing, wrist pin, or valvetrain peck and needs to be gone through before being reliable as stock clearnaces/tolerances are shit excuse.

[Joseph Davis]

See also: transmission and rear end.

[keelay]

What's wrong with a 7.5?



























































Oh yea, they suck...my bad

[snm95ls]

See also: transmission and rear end.

Hey now, the 4L60E transmission and the 7.625" 10 bolt rear axles are notorious for holding insane amounts of power.


































NOT.

 

[h2a]

I gotta mean crx  ran some turbo dyned cars god bye on street tuned through a friends street tune  see you in atown na lol

[keelay]

I gotta mean crx  ran some turbo dyned cars god bye on street tuned through a friends street tune  see you in atown na lol

LOLWUT?

[TheMadScientist]

I gotta mean crx  ran some turbo dyned cars god bye on street tuned through a friends street tune  see you in atown na lol

WTF? where is your intro post? You have yet to offer up any wonderful boobies for our viewing pleasure. Get the fuck on that like .... NOW!

[Joseph Davis]

That's Shane/Wicked/demonboy.  He claims his kids keep getting on his account and swearing at members, but I'm pretty sure he just has a substance abuse problem.

[98vtec]

that explains more than half the active members

[Joseph Davis]

Yeah, but nobody else here is smoking the same shit he is.

[h2a]

Yeah, but nobody else here is smoking the same shit he is.

JDSAP  I dO NOT smoke yoseph

[Joseph Davis]

Point made.

[h2a]

Joey if you would meet me in person we would  proprobablie be good friends when will there be a east coast meet.           Shane

[Joseph Davis]

Have I ever indicated that I do not like you?  You're just... confusing?

[N1 Andy]

I can't imagine any n/a build under 3L being fun to drive.

That car with correct traction will run low 12's high 11's. You obviously have not been around shit for Honda's with such a retarded statement


There is a reason the all motor classes are always full at events. Now if you tell me 11 sec street cars suck you are banned.

Sucks that it takes that much to make a NA honda run that time.  Takes a LS1 camaro 4:30 gears and 555r's and no engine mods what so ever, to run 12.0 and 11.9

And 3x the displacement, idiot...

I love how the majority on this site thinks even well done n/a builds are so stupid.  Its complete ignorance.  That 220whp n/a build will keep up with or beat most cars on here making 300 or less whp boosted. 

Do I have more fun with my turbo setup? yes...but do I miss my n/a setup sometimes? yes...they both serve a purpose, a well built n/a motor is awesome for going around corners, not so awesome when you run into a fast car on the freeway though.  If I were to build a car for RR/AutoX/Time Attack, theres no fucking way there would be a turbo on the car.  Drag racing car, no way it would be N/A.

I give it 6 months before the siamese sleeves crack.

[SDRAWKCAB]

Better?

Nope, I still cant see the turbo.

[Joseph Davis]

If I were to build a car for RR/AutoX/Time Attack, theres no fucking way there would be a turbo on the car. 

For a FWD, or super light car, I agree.  AWD/RWD turbo cars work in that environment, although care has to be taken that the result isn't a thermal nightmare that melts itself down.

[N1 Andy]

Thermal issues on a RR car is the exact reason I wouldn't do it.  You could put a small responsive turbo on a FWD with an LSD and the car would probably be an animal on the track, but 100f track temps would destroy the thing, n/a motors just need an oil cooler and they'll take a beating all day.

AWD/RWD cars are a different story, see cyber evo:

CyberEvo FSW 1'42.3 | '09.2.17

this car is fucking cool

[98vtec]

i <3 NA




 ;D

I could mention plenty of RWD cars that thought they could take the lude on the old simple h23 vtec motor.  They thought wrong.

[magik123]

we'll I tried running on my snow tires, first run


yes that is 15.6 e.t, Goddamn spun through 5th... launching at 3.5-4k was not happening, so launching light around 1.5-2k pussy footing down the track as it would break loose if I punched it into second or third



For shits and giggles I pulled the filter off my intake, picked up 1mph but ran slower, i need fucking slicks.



Im hoping high - mid 12's actually driving it down the track, 220hp was prob a bit high though.

[98vtec]

Should have known that dipshit

[magik123]

known i needed slicks, or shootout reads high? I knew both but i was bored today lol I was just hoping i'd do better than the z6, which I did so I accomplished something whilst failing at the same time.

[98vtec]

btw, with that trap speed good luck hitting mid 12's.  You'll be lucky to hit 13.0 with just the addition of slicks.

[magik123]

i figure the trap speed would be lower without being able to launch the thing, along with shifting early and light.  I'll be ok with low 13's if thats what it ends up being tho. My first trap was 88mph spinning down the track, so we'll see.  This will be my first time out with slicks when my rims get here tho, hopefully I get the 60' down lol. Im going to try to get some nitrous before I leave to basic anyway, maybe sell it if it doesnt blow up.