Topic: Piece of shit neon is broken, help fixing it? (Read 10999 times)

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **on:** July 10, 2010, 02:56:08 PM »

My friend has a neon, its a early 90's model. For some reason its fucking up. When you turn engine on it will run and idle for about 10-20 seconds and then automatically cut off, or if you tap the throttle while its idling it will die too. It takes a few cranks for it to even begin to fire up and start. There are no check engine lights going. What the fuck is it? Im thinking it may be a clogged fuel filter or a fucked up fuel pump.

SgtB · « **Reply #1 on:** July 10, 2010, 03:28:09 PM »

Go buy a gallon of gas and some matches.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 10, 2010, 03:35:56 PM »

agreed.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #3 on:** July 10, 2010, 03:38:17 PM »

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onlyflash944 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:15:37 PM »

Quote from: SgtB on July 10, 2010, 03:28:09 PM

Go buy a gallon of gas and some matches.

depends on if you enjoy seeing explosions more, or if you would rather have the 200 bucks the scrapper would give for it

chris · « **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2010, 09:17:45 PM »

Be happy that old of a neon ran for as long as it did. Sell it to the scrap metal place for 200 bucks and go buy a 89 civic from a mexican in east oakland.

SloS13 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2010, 10:01:16 PM »

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 10, 2010, 02:56:08 PM

My friend has a neon, its a early 90's model. For some reason its fucking up.

It's an early 90's model neon. That is the reason.

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2010, 10:47:10 PM »

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

ironcrx · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2010, 10:53:55 PM »

Quote from: chris M on July 10, 2010, 09:17:45 PM

Be happy that old of a neon ran for as long as it did. Sell it to the scrap metal place for 200 bucks and go buy a 89 civic from a mexican in east oakland.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2010, 12:04:40 AM »

Quote from: Ntrain2k on July 10, 2010, 10:47:10 PM

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

explain said 'key dance'

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2010, 12:09:14 AM »

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070731120015AAVl8pE

HiProfile · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2010, 03:35:50 AM »

Quote from: Ntrain2k on July 10, 2010, 10:47:10 PM

Do the key dance and see if it has any codes stored.

Wow I alsmot forgot about that. I had a Sundance that was a heaping pile. Only fun I could have with it was launching it off loading ramps and neutral drops around tight corners.

Sounds like fuel is the issue. Obviously you know if you get no flow from your fuel pump, it has just enough to start up. If you have a massive air leak after the MAF (or a bad MAF), if will also be starved for fuel.

t_cel_t · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2010, 03:49:02 AM »

yeah i was gonna say maf or map (not sure what they meter air with)

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:14:00 AM »

It's a speed density car.

FYI, I've seen dodges have a bad map sensor and it not store a code.

Towdogg · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2010, 02:15:53 PM »

Its a pile of shit! JUNK IT!

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2010, 09:54:15 PM »

I put a new fuel pump in it, a new fuel filter, it has plenty of fuel pressure now, it has new spark plugs and there is spark, the compression was a solid 180 across, there is no MAF on this car, only a map sensor. When i crank it, it just turns over and it'll pop and maybe fire a cylinder here or there but will not run, not even for a short moment like it did before. I jumped it using another car and it stil does the same thing. I tried doing the key turn thing to check codes and no CEL comes on, the CEL doesnt even come on while trying to start the car? WTF man, there is compression, spark, and fuel. I even took the fuel rail off and watched the injectors squirt fuel, i took the spark plug out and stick it in the spark plug wire and watched it make spark, compression was solid across WHAT THE FUCK, FUCK YOU DIAMLER CHRYSLER FUCK YOU GM SHITS ALL OVER YOU AND RAPES YOUR CHILDREN.

SgtB · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:01:01 PM »

Timing? Bad gas?

Hotrodlincoln · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:05:02 PM »

Timing belt

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:12:05 PM »

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere. I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Towdogg · « **Reply #19 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:13:34 PM »

Put some gas inside..... Light match! $:-\$

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #20 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:35:38 PM »

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 10:12:05 PM

timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere. I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #21 on:** July 11, 2010, 10:59:33 PM »

Quote from: Ntrain2k on July 11, 2010, 10:35:38 PM

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere. I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

Hmm i didnt check that, i'll check it tmmrw. This isnt my car, its my friends car and its about 45 min away from me.

Hotrodlincoln · « **Reply #22 on:** July 11, 2010, 11:01:48 PM »

Quote from: Hotrodlincoln on July 11, 2010, 10:05:02 PM

Timing belt

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 10:59:33 PM

Quote from: Ntrain2k on July 11, 2010, 10:35:38 PM
Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 10:12:05 PM
timing belt is straight, car was running about a month ago, then it just shut off out of nowhere. I put new gas in it so that isnt the problem.

Are the timing marks lined up?

It might have jumped time.

Hmm i didnt check that, i'll check it tmmrw. This isnt my car, its my friends car and its about 45 min away from me.

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 11, 2010, 11:11:02 PM »

before i did the fuel pump, when sometimes it would turn on and idle for a moment, it had a normal idle, when it jumps a tooth doesn't it usually surge?

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #24 on:** July 11, 2010, 11:23:54 PM »

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 11, 2010, 11:11:02 PM

before i did the fuel pump, when sometimes it would turn on and idle for a moment, it had a normal idle, when it jumps a tooth doesn't it usually surge?

It depends on how far it jumped.

Try picking up another map from the JY for it.

They go bad a lot without throwing codes.

dueyx99 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:38:22 AM »

try a known good crank sensor, crank sensor can fail and throw no code, usually they crack inside the block, looks fine from outisde

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:50:29 AM »

180 psi is 9.5:1 CR compression, without mechanical timing being off.

Sir, was the spark yellow or blue? Have you changed the plugs yet?

LS1pwNzJ00 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2010, 12:51:51 AM »

these plugs are new, although they look like they got a bit fouled from being cranked so much, i cleaned them off with a brush to no avail

highroller54 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2010, 01:41:31 AM »

Quote from: LS1pwNzJ00 on July 12, 2010, 12:51:51 AM

i cleaned them off with a brush to no avail

lol, you know that doesn't work

2slow · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2010, 03:31:05 AM »

Im pretty sure the standard operating proceedure for dealing with a broke down neon from the nineties is to take it to the scrap yard and tell them their scale is off a couple hundred pounds

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