Topic: FORD engine questions (Read 20680 times)

jarebear667 · « **on:** August 09, 2010, 11:20:42 AM »

alright being as im from iowa and we do hillbilly shit, we raced a bus this year, redneck yes! haha but damn fun.
well we got beat by a few diesels with pumps turned up they are suppose to remain stock but, but ours has a 2 barrell 370 that ran pretty good, i'd lie to throw a 4 barrell on it , does the 429 -460 work on them? i have been searchin sites but cant find much, the bus is an 87 b700 im pretty sure.

let me know whats up

Foowee · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2010, 03:39:46 PM »

Was the 370 pulling intake vacuum at wot with the 2 barrel?

idk if the 429-460 intake/carb will fit on your 370...

jarebear667 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2010, 03:49:14 PM »

im not really sure on the intake vaccum i'd just like to slam a 4 barrel on it with a nicer manifold and a nitrous plate, or fuck the 4 barrell and just make a plate?

this is what made me wonder about the compatabilty of the engines and people are calling the 370 a Big Block.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-370-429-460-Valley-Pan-Intake-Gasket-1975-90-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ120567318428QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

we just want to put some nitrous on it for the straights they are just running around a cirle track 8-10 laps. two races.
the bus that beat everyones asses was a turned up international dt466 i think

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2010, 05:42:36 PM »

You might find big tube long tube headers make a bigger difference than a carb swap. IDK if that's in the rule book.

DasPoop · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2010, 06:15:30 PM »

if they consider the 370 a big block why not try to find a 460 in the bone yard and swap it in it will pry come with a 4 bbl too

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #5 on:** August 09, 2010, 11:28:15 PM »

what this guy says. seems like they wouldnt even look twice at a buss with any ford big block you could get a hold of

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #6 on:** August 09, 2010, 11:33:11 PM »

Twin remote mount Holsets run through a couple mufflers fore and aft to muffle the whine would also not lift an eyebrow.

crttaz · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2010, 03:33:28 AM »

370 = thick walled 429 385 motor. Truck variant.

jarebear667 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:12:27 AM »

finding big tube headers would be tough to find, i have been thinking of finding a motor. we would buy a new bus but this shits for fun and we are the "underdogs" with and old gasser, and we are thinking nitrous because its easy to hide, turbos not so much. but would be kick ass.
we have the seats gutted out of it also, and we are going to go a little farther with cutting holes in the frame and shit like that.

what do you guys have for ideas or any junk that would be worth a fuck for this thing?

92CXyD · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2010, 11:18:06 AM »

Do a Red Green floating bus setup to get the weight down to nothing. ;D

Just get a F350 460 w/ 4bbl carb in it w/ long big pipe headers.

Then throw a 250hp nitrous kit it and watch the jaws drop. ;D :yes:

PhilStubbs · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2010, 12:20:36 PM »

Are you "allowed" any mods?

jarebear667 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2010, 05:59:39 PM »

no, no mods, but they wont be able to tell a motor swap since some of the b700 busses did have 460s i believe.
and we dont give a fuck its not a big serious race its for the fuck of it we just want to win. and if that entales cheating so be it haha, people spending thousands on turbo diesel busses and turning up the pumps and clamping gates is cheating but you cant see it.

jarebear667 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2010, 06:00:24 PM »

Quote from: 92CXyD on August 10, 2010, 11:18:06 AM

Do a Red Green floating bus setup to get the weight down to nothing. ;D

Just get a F350 460 w/ 4bbl carb in it w/ long big pipe headers.

Then throw a 250hp nitrous kit it and watch the jaws drop. ;D :yes:

im thinking thats whats up, and we drank too much one night and were actually talking seriously but then we were like what the fuck are we thinking.

jarebear667 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2010, 07:11:00 PM »

picture of said bus

fuck monster 2

DasPoop · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2010, 07:30:54 PM »

hmm now thats a shaggin wagon. Hell i would toss a couple couches in it and go cross country

92CXyD · « **Reply #15 on:** August 11, 2010, 08:43:27 AM »

I see a new bang bus type use for that shark. ;D :yes:

jarebear667 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 11, 2010, 11:09:39 AM »

its not something you'd want to go accross the country in haha no windows or seats or exhaust you can see it turn out ther by the gas fill.
you can get nice busses for like 2000 and thats a diesel with 100k
or old gasses for 1200 and 900 i ahve found.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #17 on:** August 11, 2010, 12:02:23 PM »

Shit, get a gasser for 900, drive it around picking up scrap, drive to the scrapyard for a profit.

jarebear667 · « **Reply #18 on:** August 11, 2010, 03:15:07 PM »

i know they weigh in at like 6000 pounds or more. thats what people do with them, i took in a d block head h22 block and head and come dsm trans cases and got shit today pretty much pissed.

keelay · « **Reply #19 on:** August 15, 2010, 09:00:39 AM »

The smaller FE motors are fucking tough as nails. It will take a 250 shot, and laugh at you. The biggest thing is to get air to it. Get a vacuum gauge, and make sure you aren't pulling vacuum at WOT, if so, find a bigger carb. You shouldn't need more than 600cfm really. Just bolting a carb from a 460 on will probably hurt you more than help, the jetting would prolly be too much. Find a similar size engine in a junkyard and rebuild the carb. You have access to a wideband? If so, you could just re jet the 460 carb accordingly. Then address somehow getting those shitty manifolds off. Any way possible.
On a sidenote, I want to see a schoolbus smoking one pair of rear wheels when you hit the spray.

Joseph Davis · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2010, 09:04:19 AM »

Quote from: keelay on August 15, 2010, 09:00:39 AM

The smaller FE motors are fucking tough as nails. It will take a 250 shot,

I'm pretty sure it'd take more. Stock 302 take 200 shots if you stud the heads and mains to reinforce the flexi-flier blocks, and this is old school jet-by-the-seat-of-your-pants and generic retard era tech.

jarebear667 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2010, 11:07:12 AM »

wel thats the thing im asking will a 460 intake manifold fit on a 370?

Ntrain2k · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2010, 05:41:20 PM »

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/308339-370-intake-on-460-a.html

bigdaddyvtec · « **Reply #23 on:** August 16, 2010, 06:01:23 PM »

Quote from: jarebear667 on August 11, 2010, 11:09:39 AM

its not something you'd want to go accross the country in haha no windows or seats or exhaust you can see it turn out ther by the gas fill.
you can get nice busses for like 2000 and thats a diesel with 100k
or old gasses for 1200 and 900 i ahve found.

The dsm STUFF belongs IN THE GARBAGE