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[Joseph Davis]

Lulz, this had me laughing pretty hard. Yes there is a lot of consumer SHIT made in China, most good chips and pcb's are made in Taiwan, Japan, Germany and the USA.

No, those are the four main points of origin for mainstream semiconductor manufacture.  PCBs are sourced differently, and assembly is yet another. 

Hon Hai/Foxconn is the largest/china.  Flextronics started in Silicon Valley but is based these days in Singapore and has a large stake in china.  Jabil remains an American company, but has also set up shop in china.  Fuck, name a top 50 manufacturer that's not in china.

You can't.

 

[Joseph Davis]

On another note, some Chinese companies are going to hold rare earth metals for a while to raise the prices back up...

We are sole-sourced to china for rare earth elements, aka "green technology".

[Jorsher]

On another note, some Chinese companies are going to hold rare earth metals for a while to raise the prices back up...

We are sole-sourced to china for rare earth elements, aka "green technology".

I forget the exact numbers, but they supply over 90% of the rare earth minerals.

There are supposed to be some mines found elsewhere but it will of course take years before they're operational.

Can't say I blame the Chinese...or maybe we should bomb them?

[Joseph Davis]

A majority of the mines were in America.  We have THE three most mineralogically diverse regions in the world (Colorado, NH, and western NC IIRC), and we were rolling our own before china flooded the market at prices we couldn't compete with since our wages are higher than a bowl of rice a day.

[Jorsher]

A majority of the mines were in America.  We have THE three most mineralogically diverse regions in the world (Colorado, NH, and western NC IIRC), and we were rolling our own before china flooded the market at prices we couldn't compete with since our wages are higher than a bowl of rice a day.

California is also pretty rich in the shit.  Unfortunately mines don't open overnight, so I'm sure China will play this game until either they run out or they stop selling.  China is going to whore themselves out until there's no resources left...  Apparently they have 37% of the world's known rare earths and supply 97% of them.

[Passenger]

Lulz, this had me laughing pretty hard. Yes there is a lot of consumer SHIT made in China, most good chips and pcb's are made in Taiwan, Japan, Germany and the USA.

No, those are the four main points of origin for mainstream semiconductor manufacture.  PCBs are sourced differently, and assembly is yet another. 

Hon Hai/Foxconn is the largest/china.  Flextronics started in Silicon Valley but is based these days in Singapore and has a large stake in china.  Jabil remains an American company, but has also set up shop in china.  Fuck, name a top 50 manufacturer that's not in china.

You can't.

 

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, haven't been on here for a week or so.

Panasonic
Fanuc
Yaskawa
Siemens
Philips
GE
Allen Bradley
Mitsubishi



Those are just ones I work with, I'm sure there are others.

Maybe not top 50 but worth mentioning:
Miller Electric
Thermal Dynamics
Kawasaki
Epson

[Joseph Davis]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/news/hardware/China-unveils-homemade-supercomputer/articleshow/10528715.cms

"This is a bit of a surprise," said Jack Dongarra, a computer scientist at the University of Tennessee

Are you related to Jack, Dave?

[Passenger]

Jack is my mother.