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Which would you build?
« on: December 20, 2011, 03:57:56 AM »

okay buddy picked up a ef hatch for dirty cheap. Now gotta figure out what engine to build. have a ls,z6,22b2 sittin around. just curious as to which people would like to see? everything will be rhmt style no fancy fuckin plates and shit all fluxcore and jb weld fab.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 07:39:17 AM »

I vote d2b, I'm planning to do that in my ef soon.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 09:58:43 AM »

do a z6 with a evo 16g
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 10:57:20 AM »

F2B

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 11:59:56 AM »

F2B

k20 rods and pistons arp studs and nog boost!


isn't that used in the f23? was goin h22 rods with dsm strokers like ash.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 12:29:07 PM »

Id just do the ls....  Mine was fast on 10psi... :-\
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 01:30:13 AM »

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 02:02:22 AM »

Id just do the ls....  Mine was fast on 10psi... :-\

gettin kinda bored with the ls at 18psi
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 02:12:03 AM »

Turn that Bitch to 25 then! :P
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 02:23:34 AM »

I would go D or B. Unless your plans are for a drag car. I dont really see the necessity of the B tranny for a street car with <500whp. Its just a lot of extra work and headache, for a better tranny. If you want the better gears, and are building a 400ish whp (I dont know your goals, didnt really read), go B series, or suffer with the EX/SI gears and a cheap single slam.

Oh, and if you did go D2B, adapter plate isnt necessary. But I kinda doubt youll get it done with JB Weld or Devcon. And sure as fuck wont with a Fluxcore, unless you shell out a pretty penny for Speed Factory adapter components...
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 04:19:48 AM »

naw I say yours on the d2b. not payin for a kit. I can weld aluminum not pretty but can do it. leanin towards the f2b. I have never even driven a car with a f series. power goals are as much as I can get.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 12:32:58 PM »

Shit, you aren't far from me. If you need some aluminum welding, just holla at a nog!  AJ can vouch :)
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2011, 02:11:08 PM »

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 12:23:03 AM »

I will/ when you gettin rid of the first gen? f2b in that would be sick
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 03:35:34 PM »

hit up the local junkyards for an old school cable integra transmission.  :noel:
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2011, 11:00:35 PM »

Fab up mounts for a hydro B, buy the hydro pedals in classifieds, go f2b. If you go w/o an adapter plate you have that much more room for a turbo. Actually I'm not sure if the EF has enough room before the firewall.

Even if you got a basic F, an adapter, and a cable LS trans it would be fun. The extra torque would make the gearing okay, and some F22's can do good peak HP on stock blocks.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 01:05:43 AM »

was thinkin a 88-89 teg tranny but isn't that closer to a d? if I went that route I would have  to do a plate. The b series think I can do without but a d I have no choice unless I weld extra material to the bell housing.




also found this looks pretty sketchy  http://www.b20vtec.com/forums/st-ann...thout-kit.html
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2011, 01:10:05 AM »

88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 03:22:17 AM »

By old school I meant 90-91 a1 trans they are 20 years old



If you go d series I think making the 86-89 d16a1 trans work in a 88-91 chassis the way to go. The one d series transmission that doesnt suck
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2011, 12:52:05 AM »

86-89 D16A1 tranny will work, but take custom mounts. If I gotta fab some shit, it better be a B series tranny.

Fuck 90-91 small spline trannies. 92-93. Same spline as a hydro tranny, and same internals. Much better as far as options. You really just need a case. Then pick up hydro B16, LS, and GSR trannies, and start fuckin with your gear stacks.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2011, 02:17:38 AM »

I have three hydro ls tranny's. waiting for my buddy to pick up a new tranny for his da and I get the fucked up b16 one thats in it.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2011, 11:30:48 AM »

88-89 teg trans are a d pattern.

As in D15A3, which was a last model year renaming of the Si trim EWx, sure it is.  If you think it's 88+ D-series pattern you're smoking something.

Four bolts match up, requires drilling/tapping the starter hole, and a clutch from mars to make it work.  Oh, yeah, make the mounts.

Cool transmission for beans, IMO.  86-89 gearset with 4.06 FD from a 2G Prelude and a B-series LSD is a great combo for boost, but it's a bit of work and the net effect is ??.  I like how strong the gearset "looks" but there's a lot in material selection and actual design that I don't know anything about, and there hasn't been a decade of kids blowing these things up to know the limits of the box.  Best case scenario you do a lot of work and fucking around to end up with something as strong as a B-series box (although theoretically a little stronger due to the built in cuff).

I wouldn't bother unless you were building a classic 80s Honda.

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2011, 11:32:36 AM »

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2011, 12:20:16 PM »

yeah the 86-89 tans was just a idea if it was gonna go in a pre 88 civic/crx.
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2011, 01:03:54 PM »

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #25 on: December 26, 2011, 01:50:12 PM »

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

No.  Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build.  Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.

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« Reply #26 on: December 26, 2011, 02:02:24 PM »

Also, F22A non-VTEC to D is my vote for poor boy NA builds.

Did Bisi hack the Grand Wizard's account?

No.  Go through a couple setups that break 200whp by 6500 rpms off of pennies compared to what a B/H would cost to build.  Admittedly, H22 with Type-S cams would do the same and is sort of affordable if you want a turn-key sway... but you can get F22A free.

I was trying to give you a ration of shit, and you blocked it.  Asshole.

I hate to admit it, but the though of mixing H and F parts for a relatively cheap larger displacement mill is appealing even though they are boat anchors.

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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #27 on: December 26, 2011, 04:41:31 PM »

fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz
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Re: Which would you build?
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2011, 05:39:15 PM »

fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz

They aren't as expensive as you'd think.

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« Reply #29 on: December 26, 2011, 05:51:12 PM »

fuck yo k. no k talk round here we broke niggaz

They aren't as expensive as you'd think.

Especially the non TSX K24s.  They are really affordable these days.

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