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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2010, 09:11:59 AM »

Picked up block, head, flywheel today.  Bastards were supposed to put the piston rings on for me because I was afraid of snapping one like I did when trying to take them apart, but got them all on.  Pistons installed, tomorrow finishing putting the bottom end together then hopefully can get the engine in Wednesday or Thursday.

Does it really matter where the ring gaps are located in relation to the piston?  On one hand I doubt it'll matter since I thought they'd rotate, but I ended up doing what Wiseco said anyway.  Ring compressor chopped my hands up, didn't notice until I started seeing blood everywhere :P

Usually you want the ring gaps not line up with each other and not line op with wrist pin. Keep in mind the rings move around in the ring grooves anyway. :?:

A build would not be complete w/o some blood to help with engine assembly lubrication.  ;D

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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #91 on: April 20, 2010, 09:37:26 AM »

Picked up block, head, flywheel today.  Bastards were supposed to put the piston rings on for me because I was afraid of snapping one like I did when trying to take them apart, but got them all on.  Pistons installed, tomorrow finishing putting the bottom end together then hopefully can get the engine in Wednesday or Thursday.

Does it really matter where the ring gaps are located in relation to the piston?  On one hand I doubt it'll matter since I thought they'd rotate, but I ended up doing what Wiseco said anyway.  Ring compressor chopped my hands up, didn't notice until I started seeing blood everywhere :P

Usually you want the ring gaps not line up with each other and not line op with wrist pin. Keep in mind the rings move around in the ring grooves anyway. :?:

A build would not be complete w/o some blood to help with engine assembly lubrication.  ;D

Yep, I've poured lots of blood into it.

Wiseco said to position the top ring and 2nd ring gaps 180 degrees from each other.  The two oil ring gaps at least 90 degrees apart on the "back" of the engine (I'm assuming intake), and the funky oil ring facing the front.  I did what it suggested anyway just didn't see the reason.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #92 on: April 20, 2010, 02:19:52 PM »

Good thing to know. I found a b18 bloc for 80$ that I need to pick up after my exams. After that, I will need that kind of info  :noel:
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #93 on: April 20, 2010, 03:13:19 PM »

Check this out it will give you a quick rundown and,  just good videos.

http://articles.evans-tuning.com/2009/03/25/the-definitive-gsr-engine-build-video/
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #94 on: April 20, 2010, 03:31:00 PM »



This was what was on their ring info sheet.

Dunno if it matters but figured I'd do it in case it does.  I wasn't sure what is considered the "front" of the engine so I just placed the piston so the text on it was not upside down and oriented the rings to the picture.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #95 on: April 20, 2010, 03:39:33 PM »

Make sure after you get it running With in 5-10 min that you are out seating your rings. (as long as everything is good after it starts up.) Lots of 5k-2k compression breaking. It will seat your rings and you will have bitchen compression.
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New setup is old bottom end with a hype r head with gsr cams. built lsv with hx35 @ 26psi on pump gas
LEED tuned! 434hp/329tq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbDXZxZdZs
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,16195.0.html

Old Setup B18a1 296hp/289tq LEED Tuned 20psi on pump! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yj-Z90j4W4   
http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/forum/index.php/topic,205.msg2437.html#msg2437

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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #96 on: April 20, 2010, 03:52:44 PM »

Make sure after you get it running With in 5-10 min that you are out seating your rings. (as long as everything is good after it starts up.) Lots of 5k-2k compression breaking. It will seat your rings and you will have bitchen compression.

Definitely will be.

- Start
- Set ignition timing
- Check for leaks
- Bleed cooling system once thermostat opens
- Take out for rippers
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #97 on: April 20, 2010, 06:55:59 PM »

Make sure after you get it running With in 5-10 min that you are out seating your rings. (as long as everything is good after it starts up.) Lots of 5k-2k compression breaking. It will seat your rings and you will have bitchen compression.

Definitely will be.

- Start
- Set ignition timing
- Check for leaks
- Bleed cooling system once thermostat opens
- Take out for rippers
- Cut it off down the road because of a horrible knock and temp gauge maxed out
- Get it home to find out all the oil is gone and is now in the radiator


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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #98 on: April 20, 2010, 07:16:11 PM »

Couple corrections: never checked for leaks and there was never a knock 8)

Also temp guage never maxed out, only got to 75.33%
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 07:26:49 PM by Jorsher »
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #99 on: April 20, 2010, 07:22:47 PM »

Im waiting for knock in the next few hundred miles  :evil:
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #100 on: April 20, 2010, 07:31:27 PM »

I refuse to believe that he will repeat the same failure. :?:

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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2010, 07:46:40 PM »

I refuse to believe that he will repeat the same failure. :?:

You are correct sir.

This will go perfectly.

Flywheel has been resurfaced and the few nicks were removed.

Head has been tapped perfectly, has low miles, and resurfaced.

Block is low mile, no cracks, and decked.

Rings and bearings are new and properly installed.

What could possibly go wrong? :?:
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #102 on: April 20, 2010, 07:51:44 PM »

I refuse to believe that he will repeat the same failure. :?:

You are correct sir.

This will go perfectly.

Flywheel has been resurfaced and the few nicks were removed.

Head has been tapped perfectly, has low miles, and resurfaced.

Block is low mile, no cracks, and decked.

Rings and bearings are new and properly installed.

What could possibly go wrong? :?:

Your oil pump dies mid way through a ripper :-X
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #103 on: April 20, 2010, 08:32:08 PM »

That drawing is fucked up, like it's for a domestic or something.  When you put the rings in, you want to make sure the gaps are not on the load bearing walls as the piston travels, and you want to make sure they are offset.  IE don't put any ring gaps on the intake or exhaust side of piston.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2010, 09:22:05 PM »

That drawing is fucked up, like it's for a domestic or something.  When you put the rings in, you want to make sure the gaps are not on the load bearing walls as the piston travels, and you want to make sure they are offset.  IE don't put any ring gaps on the intake or exhaust side of piston.

Right, and I positioned them according to that drawing with the lettering in the proper orientation.  When you install them in the engine, the letters are upside down, and all the gaps are facing away from the load bearing wall ;)

Your oil pump dies mid way through a ripper :-X

I pray that does not happen.  I bought a used oil pump from someone on here which I regret doing but it is supposedly only 70k miles and everything was in spec.

Before I boost I'll find someone that sells beefy oil pumps.

Theoretically, if it did esplode, I'd instantly get a CEL when the oil pressure dropped correct?
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #105 on: April 20, 2010, 09:25:51 PM »

oil light will pop up. Oem type r pumps are like 100 bucks. Worth the peace of mind.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2010, 09:59:48 PM »

by the time i looked down said oshit oil light turned car of it was knockig like the police at the door
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #107 on: April 20, 2010, 10:36:30 PM »

Good to have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge.  I used to watch mine more than my speedometer.  Then again, I've gotten a lot of tickets
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #108 on: April 20, 2010, 11:06:32 PM »

THIS OIL PUMP IS INVINCIBLE AND WILL LAST UNTIL I REPLACE IT BECAUSE JESUS LOVES ME AND HONDAS NEVER DIE
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #109 on: April 20, 2010, 11:35:00 PM »

by the time i looked down said oshit oil light turned car of it was knockig like the police on my door
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #110 on: April 21, 2010, 12:34:15 AM »

THIS OIL PUMP IS INVINCIBLE AND WILL LAST UNTIL I REPLACE IT BECAUSE JESUS LOVES ME AND HONDAS NEVER DIE

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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #111 on: April 21, 2010, 06:05:29 AM »

Good to have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge.  I used to watch mine more than my speedometer.  Then again, I've gotten a lot of tickets

I think I have one if you need the piece of mind

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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 11th)
« Reply #112 on: April 21, 2010, 09:10:18 AM »

Good to have an aftermarket oil pressure gauge.  I used to watch mine more than my speedometer.  Then again, I've gotten a lot of tickets

I think I have one if you need the piece of mind

I'll buy one with a gauge pillar and boost gauge later down the road.  But prociate it.

Weather is supposed to suck Saturday but only a chance of shit weather Sunday...so will probably put the engine in then.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2010, 09:24:40 PM »

SEEMS to be running as it should.

Waiting for the thermostat housing sealant to dry then taking it down the road.

No leaks this time, or oil in the coolant, or coolant in the oil.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2010, 11:25:41 PM »

I have a mechanical oil gauge you can have....

$10+ship?
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2010, 11:28:30 PM »

I have a mechanical oil gauge you can have....

$10+ship?

Sure but it'll be payday before I can pay you.  I had to borrow money for gas to get it off E.

Took it around the 'hood.  Seems to bog at lower RPMs, but seems to run great at WOT...is this because I have the O2 sensor disabled and am driving open header?  Also think it might be running a bit rich, my friend said he could see a lot of black smoke while I was driving (which could be because of the new rings), but there was a lot of popping when I'd let off the gas from upper RPMs.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2010, 11:32:41 PM »

I would enable the o2 and check your plugs.
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #117 on: April 28, 2010, 08:11:44 PM »

Since everyone likes pics:











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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #118 on: April 28, 2010, 09:06:16 PM »

If the car is still running a little rough and ignition timing is cool no cel's a new set of plugs does wonders.


If you are running a stock bin file the car should run pretty solid
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Re: I've never had a build thread (Update Apr 26th)
« Reply #119 on: April 28, 2010, 09:34:12 PM »

If the car is still running a little rough and ignition timing is cool no cel's a new set of plugs does wonders.


If you are running a stock bin file the car should run pretty solid

Yeah, it still seems a little rough.  No CELs, leaks, overheating, anything...but when accelerating it feels like it's surging.  I will try a new set of plugs, maybe when I was running it for a while with the ignition timing/map not right it messed the plugs up.  Was thinking maybe the fact that I am running open header and no O2 might have something to do with it too, but new plugs are cheap and won't hurt.
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