Topic: D16A6 (Read 19642 times)

walter · « **on:** August 10, 2009, 02:49:40 PM »

hi, i got my DOHC ZC block damaged beacuse it had some helicois shits and here there is a repair shop that can repair it but the solution they give me, doesnt like to me so much so i was wondering if i can fit a SOHC D16A6 block and use the log manifold and made for my DOHC ZC, i dont wanna waste more money making another log manifold for this engine, and i can't get any DOCH ZC block to good price so far.

let me know guys!

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:10:52 PM »

it will bolt fine. its the intake manifold thats different

Foowee · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:11:10 PM »

Wally, you might have to modify your downpipe. I don't see why the log wouldn't fit though.

walter · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:15:04 PM »

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on August 10, 2009, 03:10:52 PM

it will bolt fine. its the intake manifold thats different

cool, ill try to get D16A6 engine + head , another question, what about OBD1 conversion? i converted my DOHC ZC to OBD1 , do i can use TD43U dizzy with A6 head for convert it to OBD1 too?

chris · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:20:46 PM »

you need a dist off a d15b7 motor for d16a6 obd1 conversion

walter · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:22:33 PM »

Quote from: chris M on August 10, 2009, 03:20:46 PM

you need a dist off a d15b7 motor for d16a6 obd1 conversion

good info.

Thx , ill try to get this days engine and dizzy.

walter · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:29:05 PM »

btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2009, 03:34:12 PM »

Quote from: walter on August 10, 2009, 03:29:05 PM

btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?

yep

walter · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:04:50 PM »

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on August 10, 2009, 03:34:12 PM

Quote from: walter on August 10, 2009, 03:29:05 PM
btw, D16z6 will fits with my L3 tranny?

yep

what about motor mounts? im sorry, i can do everything on cars really but i havent a lot of tech info ;D

chris · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2009, 04:10:11 PM »

use all your stock cable mounts in the car now

walter · « **Reply #10 on:** August 12, 2009, 07:09:07 PM »

got de engine, ill disamble it and stock build it , but i need D15B7 dizzy right now $:-\$

crttaz · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2009, 01:11:06 AM »

uhm, I don't think all the headbolts are gonna line up.....but what do I know.

walter · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2009, 05:14:24 PM »

Quote from: c0mpl3x on August 13, 2009, 02:17:50 AM

walter if you need a ZC block in great shape i still have mine..

problem is shipping brother, but i got a D16A6 complete engine already $:-\$ , fixing my ZC block cost like 150â‚¬ (214$USD) and i got D16A6 engine for 200$

ill rebuild it stock one but i would like to convert it to OBD1 , ill get soon D15B7 dizzy but im not sure if engine can run good with P28 chipped ecu.

I made a thread in EM..

thanks anyway

P.D HOw much for shipping and enigine?

chris · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2009, 06:46:58 PM »

shipping would be insane well over 300 just for a bare block

walter · « **Reply #14 on:** August 13, 2009, 06:56:25 PM »

i know Crhis, look what pm i got ago some minutes, lol

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i can do $60 USD shipped.
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chris · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2009, 11:07:55 PM »

You cant even send an engine block 500 miles without it being over 60 dollars

I shipped an intake manifold which weighs 12 pounds to england priority mail only way you can ship now no more boat service and it was almost 75 bucks for 12 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crxvtec91 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2009, 11:22:38 PM »

Walter just rebuild it with vitaras. You will be able to make big power on pump!

walter · « **Reply #17 on:** August 14, 2009, 04:10:48 AM »

Quote from: chris M on August 13, 2009, 11:07:55 PM

You cant even send an engine block 500 miles without it being over 60 dollars

I shipped an intake manifold which weighs 12 pounds to england priority mail only way you can ship now no more boat service and it was almost 75 bucks for 12 POUNDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow that's expensive! ive order a lot of parts from there and for Turbo manifold SR20DET postages and feess were 54.61 priority mail ..

c0mpl3x , ZIP 28029 Madrid - Spain.

crxvtec91 , i'd like boost it to Stock, after it blow, rebuild with vitara and FJT rods or scat ones maybe

walter · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2009, 07:49:57 PM »

LOL, thx anyway bro :yes:

walter · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2009, 07:52:55 PM »

i havent garage and ill rebuild it in my bedroom

ready to rebuild

D16A6 (SOHC ZC) piston vs D16A9 (DOHC ZC) piston

ill check for all clearances and will install everything again.

klyph · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2009, 09:45:16 PM »

I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.

ApexSilver06MR · « **Reply #21 on:** August 18, 2009, 01:50:36 PM »

Quote from: klyph on August 14, 2009, 09:45:16 PM

I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.

i think all he wanted to know was if his log mani and tranny thats on his current blown ZC with fit on an A6.

the answer is yes...for everything but the intake manifold.

walter · « **Reply #22 on:** August 22, 2009, 06:15:21 AM »

yes, that's what i meant, well o assembly everything excep head that ill replace valve seats and clean it a bit too, i measured rod and journal bearings with gauge, what i dont udnerstand is in the plastigage big size is more narrow than little sizes i means 0.025mm is more wide than 0.075mm.. and in haynes manual says for instance standar sizes : 0.024 to 0.042mm , like 0.042 is more wide.. idk if u understand what i means

walter · « **Reply #23 on:** August 22, 2009, 08:45:25 PM »

i know it but i means.

0.01 < 0.03 , right?

why 0.01 is widest than 0.03 if 0.03 is bigger?

bouncinofftherevlimiter · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:39:20 PM »

Quote from: walter on August 22, 2009, 08:45:25 PM

i know it but i means.

0.01 < 0.03 , right?

why 0.01 is widest than 0.03 if 0.03 is bigger?

if im reading this right, its cause .01 is less clearance, therefore it smashes the plastigage more and makes it wider, as opposed to the .03 which had more clearance and smashes it down less. like if you were to hammer a piece of copper or something soft, the more you hammer it, the thinner it becomes, and the wider it becomes, because the material has to go somewhere...

does that help?

HiProfile · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:37:43 PM »

Here's something anyone can grasp - take a big fucking hammer, smash your finger. With less clearance between the floor and the hammer head, your finger must get wider.

IMO there's too much shittalking about the dohc zc head + regular d16 block hybrid to make much sense. However this link sound like it is doable: http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1079426 The problem is the rpr link I found, saying the newer blocks shift the head sideways: http://www.redpepperracing.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=33980&pid=346411&mode=threaded&show=&st=#entry346411

However...an A6 or Z6 head will be a better option if possible from a power standpoint. I've never seen ZC dynos that proved it was worth the trouble. Add a cheap zex/delta cam or regrind, and you're lightyears ahead.

walter · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2009, 06:51:16 AM »

good example! thx

abuot head, yes, ill run with A6 head so far, if i get a cheap Z6 ill run with it for vtec , anyway next month ill get exospeed cam for A6... ill try to clean, replace valve seal this week and will install everything, what ill need right now is PM6 for chipping, because i dont get D15B dizzy and looks a big difficult for runing with good map on P30 base turbo.. thx dudes!

klyph · « **Reply #27 on:** August 26, 2009, 05:05:04 PM »

Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on August 18, 2009, 01:50:36 PM

Quote from: klyph on August 14, 2009, 09:45:16 PM
I'm 90% sure that the DOHC ZC head won't bolt to the SOHC without serious machinework. You should check it out carefully before you proceed. Of course, you can make a SOHC head flow just as well as ur DOHC with some minor work.

i think all he wanted to know was if his log mani and tranny thats on his current blown ZC with fit on an A6.

the answer is yes...for everything but the intake manifold.

Here is a picture of the OEM gasket on a D16A1 head (same as DOHC ZC)

This is a SOHC D16 gasket on the same head

You will have the reverse of this problem and your ports will not line up exactly. This can probably be remedied with a die grinder and work just fine, but they will not line up exactly.

walter · « **Reply #28 on:** August 26, 2009, 06:11:51 PM »

thx for pics but i know differences, i have here D16 SOHC mild steel flange and D16A6 SOHC flange in mild steel too, i will not have any problem installing DOHC ZC log mani i made in A6 head..

like i said. thx

klyph · « **Reply #29 on:** August 26, 2009, 06:20:02 PM »

I don't think you need to put a new flange on your log. You can probably slot the holes and slide the log manifold down a bit.

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