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Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« on: November 17, 2009, 11:14:57 PM »

Okay guys, so this is just a mental exercise of sorts, to get some creative thinking going for a project I may undertake...someday.  I want to build a daily driver custom vehicle out of an old truck, but put a modern day drive train in it.  Here are a few requirements.

 - It must be new enough to be managed by a modern ecu, OBD1 or OBD2.
 - It must not be so new that the donor car would be more than $10K
 - 300Hp minimum in it's stock form
 - Inline drivetrain, not any tranverse mount stuff.
 - Gasoline / E85 Only, no diesel.
 - Car donors only, with excellent ride quality, no truck donors.
 - Four wheel independent suspension.
 - Autotragic transmission

Tunability is a consideration for later, but not required for consideration.  Performance can come later, a comfortable cruiser is more important initially.

Some of the vehicles I thought of were...

 - Lexus GS430
 - Cadillac CTS
 - Lincoln (anything with a Modular Motor and independent suspension?)

I kind of like the Lexus idea, watching jaws drop when I pop the hood of a classic ford truck, to reveal an asian drivetrain.  And the reliability would be solid too.

So lets see what you guys come up with.

Craig



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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2009, 11:20:14 PM »

Lincol Mark VIII has a 32V 4.6 V8, fords strongest auto, 93 had an aluminum driveshaft, 8.8 IRS, even has air ride you could incorporate if you wish.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2009, 11:20:44 PM »

I don't think 1940 internationals came OBD1. Just a guess.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2009, 11:21:02 PM »

do you want to do what everyone else does or something different?
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2009, 11:22:08 PM »

I don't think 1940 internationals came OBD1. Just a guess.

You do understand what the OP asked right?
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 11:22:16 PM »

well you mentioned lincoln, a mark viii would be cheap and work out great.  4v mod motor, 4r70w trans a 8.8 IRS rear end.  all pretty standard stuff that you can easily get parts for and have very few problems.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 11:26:37 PM »

complex stfu you dumb nigger. can't you read
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 11:26:51 PM »

on the plus side i see your example is opposite of your requirement.

Yeah, I'm pretty tricky that way.

how about a 2uz or a 4.6 mod or a lsx/lqx in a 70's celica?

Although I love the early 70s Celica, I'd prob put an S2000 drivetrain in that one.

I want to stick with a reasonably full sized truck for the body of this project.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 11:27:22 PM »

I don't think 1940 internationals came OBD1. Just a guess.

You do understand what the OP asked right?

Bah, skimmed and didn't read right. Whoops
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 11:27:58 PM »

do you want to do what everyone else does or something different?

Different, that's why I threw the Lexus drive train in there.. you have ideas?
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 11:30:20 PM »

rx7 and lsx

done a few times where the parts are readily avialable, will handle nice, wont fail like a rotary, pleanty of support to make more power if wanted
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 11:32:36 PM »

you fucking tards. A TRUCK. THIS IS GOING IN A GODDAMN OLD TRUCK.

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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2009, 11:35:20 PM »


 - Car donors only, with excellent ride quality, no truck donors.




could be why we got confused
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2009, 11:37:44 PM »

how much money do you have?

new camaro is irs
svt cobra is irs
any corvette that is obd1. prob started with the lt1s
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2009, 11:38:05 PM »

my vote is for 03/04 SVT Cobra

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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2009, 11:41:28 PM »

how much money do you have?

new camaro is irs
svt cobra is irs
any corvette that is obd1. prob started with the lt1s

Apparently you can't read either.

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 - It must be new enough to be managed by a modern ecu, OBD1 or OBD2.
- It must not be so new that the donor car would be more than $10K
 - 300Hp minimum in it's stock form
 - Inline drivetrain, not any tranverse mount stuff.
 - Gasoline / E85 Only, no diesel.
 - Car donors only, with excellent ride quality, no truck donors.
 - Four wheel independent suspension.
 - Autotragic transmission...

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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2009, 11:45:09 PM »

Anything AMG.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2009, 11:45:43 PM »

yea you're right i owned myself.

i still vote for 03/04 svt cobra

or c4 corvette with lt1
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 11:49:48 PM »

do a Cummins diesel swap  :noel:
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 11:50:38 PM »

I don't think 1940 internationals came OBD1. Just a guess.

You do understand what the OP asked right?

It's minister, how the fuck could he possibly understand.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2009, 11:59:48 PM »

Anything AMG.

Oh hell, now that's interesting.  A mercedes or bmw donor?  Hmm, that could be as much fun as an asian drivetrain. Parts would be expensive tho.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2009, 12:01:16 AM »

craig, do you have a truck already for this?

I don't own it yet, but I have one picked out.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2009, 12:04:07 AM »

U should change your mind and do a diesel  :yes:
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2009, 12:11:38 AM »

U should change your mind and do a diesel  :yes:

+1 CR cummins.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2009, 02:06:08 AM »

craig, do you have a truck already for this?

I don't own it yet, but I have one picked out.

what have you picked? why not grab an old studebaker truck? antique dead mfg with efi motor would be neato
Studebaker has absolutly no room in the cab for anything, and very little room in under the hood for modern electroncs and so forth. I did a small block chevy swap added airconditioning and even with the gas tank removed and seat set back ( gas tank is inside the cab from factory) it was very uncomfortable. The guy i built it for ended up selling it because it was so uncomfortable.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2009, 02:46:39 AM »

I'm going to toss in my vote for Lincoln Mk8, but one caveat: they may be a 4V, but they aren't the Cobra 4V.  Some corners were cut and if you want to breathe on it you'll have to replace a few things.

FYI, a lot of the emissions bullshit can be turned off very cheaply in the mid-late 90s Ford ECUs, super tuneable and stable. 

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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2009, 03:44:55 AM »

U should change your mind and do a diesel  :yes:

+1 CR cummins.
4bd or 4bt on 75lbs should do it
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« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2009, 08:45:42 AM »

rx7 and lsx

done a few times where the parts are readily avialable, will handle nice, wont fail like a rotary, pleanty of support to make more power if wanted

done many many times.
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Re: Suggestions for donor car drivetrain, give your input!
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2009, 02:47:47 PM »

SC300 drivetrain are cheap as fuck + lots of aftermarket for 2JZ.
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