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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2009, 02:00:26 AM »

Heard about this a few days ago, there's a TON of models/years being recalled.

I never liked electronic throttle ever since I tried to put a boost controller on my father's Saab, it just closes the throttle plate to compensate and lower the boost. Ass!
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2009, 02:12:40 AM »

guy that died was a cop, called 911, talked for a few moments ect ect

cant put it into neutral and let it bounce of limiter? or is the electric motor no effected by throwing it into neutral
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2009, 02:27:26 AM »

scary shit.  I'm so glad my accord has minimal computer fucking with.

What was so wrong with a normal cable linking the accelerator to the throttle?
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2009, 02:32:56 AM »

wireless throttle may have to do with power limiting or government control.

most throttle by wire systems close any time there is an error in the system and run reduced power or idle only
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2009, 02:33:22 AM »

scary shit.  I'm so glad my accord has minimal computer fucking with.

What was so wrong with a normal cable linking the accelerator to the throttle?

more efficiency possible with wire

while cruising the TB blade is actualy fully open to allow better flow of air/less restriction in the intake tract
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2009, 02:33:32 AM »



What was so wrong with a normal cable linking the accelerator to the throttle?


That's what I'm saying. Drive by wire sucks cock, and it seems Toyota is in for the ass suing of a lifetime until they come clean.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2009, 02:37:03 AM »

Can't just put it in neutral and turn off the key?
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2009, 02:45:29 AM »

While I very much dislike DBW, the major problem is that the average driver does not know enough about cars to react properly in a situation like that.

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2009, 02:46:52 AM »

Can't just put it in neutral and turn off the key?

thats what i was thinking.

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2009, 03:14:19 AM »

Can't just put it in neutral and turn off the key?

thats what i was thinking.

all these problems are in the hybrids and the cars that dont actually have keys. they just got transponder tags and push button starts.

remember if your in one the way to shut it off is hold the 'start' button for 3 seconds and it will kill the motor.
all these people dont know how to shut their cars off. also most new cars willl not shift the tranny to neutral if your on the gas.

i never understood why we need steppermotor throttles, shit scares me. some new bikes have them, thats scary.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 03:38:25 AM »

I don't get it. I was a passenger in a 85 Stanza when the cruise control throttle cable was stuck, the car wanted to stay at 70mph while trying to stop. The driver and myself both reached for the key at the same time.
Last year I was moving a newer CRV and stabbed the throttle. It stuck WOT and my instant reaction was to throw it in park. 
WTF is going on in peoples heads when this happens? Panic reaction? Lets see, brakes no, park/neutral maybe?

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 03:48:22 AM »

haha Id pay extra if it would stick WOT  :noel:  People just dont know how to drive  :?:
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2009, 04:02:11 AM »

I don't get it. I was a passenger in a 85 Stanza when the cruise control throttle cable was stuck, the car wanted to stay at 70mph while trying to stop. The driver and myself both reached for the key at the same time.
Last year I was moving a newer CRV and stabbed the throttle. It stuck WOT and my instant reaction was to throw it in park. 
WTF is going on in peoples heads when this happens? Panic reaction? Lets see, brakes no, park/neutral maybe?



I'm going to have to test if my girlfriend's highlander can be put into neutral with the pedal floored.

LMAO, throwing it into park at high speeds could be exciting.  If it doesn't completely eat the trans, it would definitely break the parking pawl.  I almost died when my last girlfriend put my car into park going like 5mph.  It was enough to lock up the front wheels.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 04:15:12 AM »

I don't get it. I was a passenger in a 85 Stanza when the cruise control throttle cable was stuck, the car wanted to stay at 70mph while trying to stop. The driver and myself both reached for the key at the same time.
Last year I was moving a newer CRV and stabbed the throttle. It stuck WOT and my instant reaction was to throw it in park. 
WTF is going on in peoples heads when this happens? Panic reaction? Lets see, brakes no, park/neutral maybe?



yea because that would just shear the parking gear. You have any idea how thin a parking ring is? If you ever actually see one, you'll set your e-brake EVERYTIME you leave your car.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2009, 04:35:52 AM »

If you can't turn a key off, you are retarded. No servo error could cause that. The best thing to hope for is a same throttle % increase, not a run-away.

No ghost in the machine

Some accidents can be explained

Right around the time when American car makes are getting their asses handed to them

No brakes? Brakes are still hydraulic bitches!




This all seem a little fishy. Like selective reporting plus big guy targeting. No other countries other than America? That report has holes in it bigger than jagojon3's mothers vaginey.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2009, 06:35:43 AM »

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2009, 07:03:38 AM »

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2009, 08:02:50 AM »

If you can't turn a key off, you are retarded. No servo error could cause that. The best thing to hope for is a same throttle % increase, not a run-away.

No ghost in the machine

Some accidents can be explained

Right around the time when American car makes are getting their asses handed to them

No brakes? Brakes are still hydraulic bitches!




This all seem a little fishy. Like selective reporting plus big guy targeting. No other countries other than America? That report has holes in it bigger than jagojon3's mothers vaginey.


You sir are 100% right, i work for Toyota, the car has to be driven by a mentally challenged 5 year old to get to the point and act like these reports suggest, i say this is just a campaing to damage the name of the make.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2009, 08:31:09 AM »

I never liked electronic throttle ever since I tried to put a boost controller on my father's Saab, it just closes the throttle plate to compensate and lower the boost. Ass!

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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2009, 08:32:27 AM »

If you can't turn a key off, you are retarded. No servo error could cause that. The best thing to hope for is a same throttle % increase, not a run-away.

No ghost in the machine

Some accidents can be explained

Right around the time when American car makes are getting their asses handed to them

No brakes? Brakes are still hydraulic bitches!




This all seem a little fishy. Like selective reporting plus big guy targeting. No other countries other than America? That report has holes in it bigger than jagojon3's mothers vaginey.


You sir are 100% right, i work for Toyota, the car has to be driven by a mentally challenged 5 year old to get to the point and act like these reports suggest, i say this is just a campaing to damage the name of the make.

i say you're a fucking shitbag. another french canadian. i can deal with francis, he's smart. you on the other hand... no.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 09:56:14 AM »

this shit happened to a bmw on the autobahn years ago. the dumb ass tried to "maintain" the speed limit? Ended up brakes went out and he ran out of road and flipped it like end over end..... :?:

Wtf is wrong with people. turn key off, neutral, e brake, ditch, etc. Idk about you but run that pos in the ditch with the ebrake locked, it's not going to do no 100 mph and burst into flames.....

Prime example of how people never pushing there limits while driving. they have no idea how to react to an emergency situation. I don't care if it was a fault in the drive by wire the guy is a fucking idiot.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2009, 02:56:32 PM »

If you can't turn a key off, you are retarded. No servo error could cause that. The best thing to hope for is a same throttle % increase, not a run-away.

No ghost in the machine

Some accidents can be explained

Right around the time when American car makes are getting their asses handed to them

No brakes? Brakes are still hydraulic bitches!




This all seem a little fishy. Like selective reporting plus big guy targeting. No other countries other than America? That report has holes in it bigger than jagojon3's mothers vaginey.


You sir are 100% right, i work for Toyota, the car has to be driven by a mentally challenged 5 year old to get to the point and act like these reports suggest, i say this is just a campaing to damage the name of the make.

i say you're a fucking shitbag. another french canadian. i can deal with francis, he's smart. you on the other hand... no.

Who was that directed towards, and who is Francis?
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2009, 03:25:27 PM »

i have never been on that road but from the report that shows what its like to go that fast down that road it looks like there is a guard rail to the right. he could have tried to scrape on that to slow down. then again maybe not
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2009, 03:35:56 PM »

toyota = worst cars in the world. yeap i said it. something was wrong with some of them.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2009, 03:41:41 PM »

If you can't turn a key off, you are retarded. No servo error could cause that. The best thing to hope for is a same throttle % increase, not a run-away.

No ghost in the machine

Some accidents can be explained

Right around the time when American car makes are getting their asses handed to them

No brakes? Brakes are still hydraulic bitches!




This all seem a little fishy. Like selective reporting plus big guy targeting. No other countries other than America? That report has holes in it bigger than jagojon3's mothers vaginey.


You sir are 100% right, i work for Toyota, the car has to be driven by a mentally challenged 5 year old to get to the point and act like these reports suggest, i say this is just a campaing to damage the name of the make.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2009, 03:44:03 PM »

If I was driving that fucking car and that happend my first reaction would have been to turn the key, but if there was no key to turn It would have been thown in park so fucking fast.....lol Like bdvt said Darwinism...
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2009, 03:44:22 PM »

Don't be a pussy and Jam it in Park or Reverse.
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Re: got a drive by wire toyota? get rid of it.
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2009, 03:48:12 PM »

Don't be a pussy and Jam it in Park or Reverse.

Destroying the transmission tends to put cars in neutral permanently.  Ask me how I know.
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« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2009, 03:49:15 PM »

ya at least something might break and kill the engine
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