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[random-strike]

just admit you're an idiot.

[dvst8r]

we are not a democracy.

they don't need or deserve any additional liberties than the average citizen. they were never meant to.

we live in a police state. the more chaotic regions of the world have the police and govt thugs doing the chaos.

LOL, you're right no one votes.

I didn't ever say they deserve them, but none the less society has afforded it to them.

I thought you said the police come to your door and hold you at gun point for your money, sounds like police / gov't thugs to me...

I maybe an idiot, but at least I am not delusional.

[Passenger]

Wrong, by law you are required to WAIT until it is safe to turn left across a roadway with oncoming traffic REGARDLESS of the oncoming traffics speed. Unless of course driving laws differ on the subject for the east coast vs the west coast, I doubt they do. If you can't determine if it is safe to cross or not prepared to get hit at one point in time or another, regardless of oncoming traffic speed.

Woah, i have no idea where you live but I live in bum-fuck Wisconsin.  Even here, if i had to wait until i could not see any oncoming traffic you could NEVER make a left hand turn during the day.  By the time I would wait for the car to pass another would be in sight.  That's just crazy.  What if there is a stoplight where the oncoming traffic is coming up a hill.  You'd clearly never be able to drive on that road if you planned on taking a left turn.  Yeah, every time you drive you take chances and do the best to minimize them but you can't eliminate all risk.  I'd still place the blame squarely on the cop.  His unneeded recklessness is, in my opinion, the only cause.  Maybe the roads are just different around here.

P.S. I skipped parts of this thread so i may be off-base.

Did I say wait until you could not see any oncoming traffic? No, I didn't.

[Joseph Davis]

Passenger, don't you have better things to do like cut down Levi's IC so it's not blocking his radiator?

[Passenger]

Passenger, don't you have better things to do like cut down Levi's IC so it's not blocking his radiator?

Lol, I'd do it if his car were here

[patsmx5]

Passenger, don't you have better things to do like cut down Levi's IC so it's not blocking his radiator?

Lol, I'd do it if his car were here

I'd still like to know what you were thinking when you made those endtanks. (ASSuming you're the one who did it, your name is on it...) Point of diminishing returns comes to mind...

[Passenger]

Passenger, don't you have better things to do like cut down Levi's IC so it's not blocking his radiator?

Lol, I'd do it if his car were here

I'd still like to know what you were thinking when you made those endtanks. (ASSuming you're the one who did it, your name is on it...) Point of diminishing returns comes to mind...

A few things, not being fucking retarded and welding on a box end tank and using a holesaw to cut an inlet was one of them, and than delusionally expecting the air to flow evenly across the core. The other was the apparent need to make 900-1000whp. Its all about minimizing pressure and balancing flow. Some people make 400whp with log manifolds some people make the same power with tubular manifolds, I'd be in the class that makes the power with the tubulars. I don't like anything being on the brink, it limits reliability, I prefer over built.

The "diminishing" returns are built overly on opinion in this matter.

[speedjunky01]

so if i went 100mph down the street in front of your house and you pulled out of your driveway and i rammed into you it would just be a speeding ticket.

 FYI it's a double-edged sword if you say you'd never reverse into a street - that means you'd have previously reverse in the street to move into the driveway.

pff noob ebrake 180 kills your argument

[Doug]

Wrong, by law you are required to WAIT until it is safe to turn left across a roadway with oncoming traffic REGARDLESS of the oncoming traffics speed. Unless of course driving laws differ on the subject for the east coast vs the west coast, I doubt they do. If you can't determine if it is safe to cross or not prepared to get hit at one point in time or another, regardless of oncoming traffic speed.

Woah, i have no idea where you live but I live in bum-fuck Wisconsin.  Even here, if i had to wait until i could not see any oncoming traffic you could NEVER make a left hand turn during the day.  By the time I would wait for the car to pass another would be in sight.  That's just crazy.  What if there is a stoplight where the oncoming traffic is coming up a hill.  You'd clearly never be able to drive on that road if you planned on taking a left turn.  Yeah, every time you drive you take chances and do the best to minimize them but you can't eliminate all risk.  I'd still place the blame squarely on the cop.  His unneeded recklessness is, in my opinion, the only cause.  Maybe the roads are just different around here.

P.S. I skipped parts of this thread so i may be off-base.

Did I say wait until you could not see any oncoming traffic? No, I didn't.

Actually you have several times. You keep saying until it is "safe" and "no oncoming traffic, wait till they pass". You sound like a media led sheep who is scared to think the cops could be wrong. 

[DmC]

I think if the dead girl could do it over again she wouldn't have pulled out infront of a speeding car.

[rsmith2786]

I think if the cop could do it over again he wouldn't have played ricerboi with his bff and killed a girl.

[Doug]

I think if the cop could do it over again he wouldn't have played ricerboi with his bff and killed a girl.

You sure about that? The idiot probably has learned nothing as he is sitting at home on paid vacation.

[j.h.christ]

I think if the cop could do it over again he wouldn't have played ricerboi with his bff and killed a girl.

You sure about that? The idiot probably has learned nothing as he is sitting at home on paid vacation.

he deserves a vacation after those kids threw themselves in front of him. poor cop.

[Passenger]

Wrong, by law you are required to WAIT until it is safe to turn left across a roadway with oncoming traffic REGARDLESS of the oncoming traffics speed. Unless of course driving laws differ on the subject for the east coast vs the west coast, I doubt they do. If you can't determine if it is safe to cross or not prepared to get hit at one point in time or another, regardless of oncoming traffic speed.

Woah, i have no idea where you live but I live in bum-fuck Wisconsin.  Even here, if i had to wait until i could not see any oncoming traffic you could NEVER make a left hand turn during the day.  By the time I would wait for the car to pass another would be in sight.  That's just crazy.  What if there is a stoplight where the oncoming traffic is coming up a hill.  You'd clearly never be able to drive on that road if you planned on taking a left turn.  Yeah, every time you drive you take chances and do the best to minimize them but you can't eliminate all risk.  I'd still place the blame squarely on the cop.  His unneeded recklessness is, in my opinion, the only cause.  Maybe the roads are just different around here.

P.S. I skipped parts of this thread so i may be off-base.

Did I say wait until you could not see any oncoming traffic? No, I didn't.

Actually you have several times. You keep saying until it is "safe" and "no oncoming traffic, wait till they pass". You sound like a media led sheep who is scared to think the cops could be wrong. 

No, not at all.
And lol, you don't have any reading comprehension either. This website is getting disgustingly socialist.

[random-strike]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

[Passenger]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

[random-strike]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

so what if they were drinking? the cop caused the accident

[Passenger]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

so what if they were drinking? the cop caused the accident

Lol, quoted purely because I am a bit surprised anyone is stupid enough to say that, but wait, you voted for the big O as well I bet.

[random-strike]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

so what if they were drinking? the cop caused the accident

Lol, quoted purely because I am a bit surprised anyone is stupid enough to say that, but wait, you voted for the big O as well I bet.

you're a complete joke.

[Doug]

Wrong, by law you are required to WAIT until it is safe to turn left across a roadway with oncoming traffic REGARDLESS of the oncoming traffics speed. Unless of course driving laws differ on the subject for the east coast vs the west coast, I doubt they do. If you can't determine if it is safe to cross or not prepared to get hit at one point in time or another, regardless of oncoming traffic speed.

Woah, i have no idea where you live but I live in bum-fuck Wisconsin.  Even here, if i had to wait until i could not see any oncoming traffic you could NEVER make a left hand turn during the day.  By the time I would wait for the car to pass another would be in sight.  That's just crazy.  What if there is a stoplight where the oncoming traffic is coming up a hill.  You'd clearly never be able to drive on that road if you planned on taking a left turn.  Yeah, every time you drive you take chances and do the best to minimize them but you can't eliminate all risk.  I'd still place the blame squarely on the cop.  His unneeded recklessness is, in my opinion, the only cause.  Maybe the roads are just different around here.

P.S. I skipped parts of this thread so i may be off-base.

Did I say wait until you could not see any oncoming traffic? No, I didn't.

Actually you have several times. You keep saying until it is "safe" and "no oncoming traffic, wait till they pass". You sound like a media led sheep who is scared to think the cops could be wrong. 

No, not at all.
And lol, you don't have any reading comprehension either. This website is getting disgustingly socialist.

Please do tell good sir? Also there is a X button at the top of your page, feel free to leave if you are so disgusted.

[j.h.christ]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

show me the news report where it says the kids were drinking.

[rsmith2786]

I think if the cop could do it over again he wouldn't have played ricerboi with his bff and killed a girl.

You sure about that? The idiot probably has learned nothing as he is sitting at home on paid vacation.

...until he does jail time.

[Passenger]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

show me the news report where it says the kids were drinking.

http://www.connpost.com/ci_13817417

[j.h.christ]

socialism has nothing to do with this. the cop caused an accident and killed two people. he has to pay for it. i think the family should take revenge personally. don't need a court for it

Lol, I guess there wouldn't be any point in you reading the related news report where the teens were drinking prior to the accident, because than you wouldn't get to hate on the cop as much

show me the news report where it says the kids were drinking.

http://www.connpost.com/ci_13817417

so according to one witness, they had 6 beers each in almost 4 hours (highest estimate), to the guy that saw them lose the BP game and have between 1-2 beers (low estimate)? assuming they were normal weight (180 pounds), they're still under the legal limit at .06%. i'll wait for the toxicology report.

"The power control module from the police vehicle indicated that for the nearly nine seconds leading up to the crash, Anderson "was at 100 percent of the accelerator pedal and 99.5 of the engine throttle."

yep, poor cop was doing a job and was a victim. he should get a promotion.

[Passenger]

Is 180lbs really considered average weight for anyone under 6ft?
That is fucking fat.

[hatchbox90]

Is 180lbs really considered average weight for anyone under 6ft?
That is fucking fat.

Wrong sir, i weigh 172 and im 5'9" and look VERY average. the other 8 pounds would not be noticed by any means if i were to pack it on.

[Joseph Davis]

i'll wait for the toxicology report.

You mean the one referrenced in the first article linked to in the OP?  That says the kids weren't under the influence of the weed found in the car, and didn't mention any other substances in their systems?

Something's wrong with Passenger's head and/or moral compass on this one.  He's slinging mud with no insight or fact, much like Johnny does in the political idiocity threads he likes to conduct.

[j.h.christ]

i'll wait for the toxicology report.

You mean the one referrenced in the first article linked to in the OP?  That says the kids weren't under the influence of the weed found in the car, and didn't mention any other substances in their systems?

Something's wrong with Passenger's head and/or moral compass on this one.  He's slinging mud with no insight or fact, much like Johnny does in the political idiocity threads he likes to conduct.

yeah, i saw that too, but didn't want to open my mouth until i was sure i was right.

[onlyflash944]

Something's wrong with Passenger's head and/or moral compass on this one. 

Either he is sadly ignorant/stoopid, or is just doing this to get us fired up.  I've made my points, I'm done trying to argue/convince.

[bigwig]

Is 180lbs really considered average weight for anyone under 6ft?
That is fucking fat.

Americans have a poor perception of weight per height.

As for Passenger, I see his point and agree with a lot of what he is saying, but a lot of it is just pipe dream utopia type thinking.  People are fucking retarded.  As a result, rules need to be put in place to add a margin of safety.  Speed limits are margins of safety.  For not much more money, cars can be built to go 80mph vs 60mph.  We can keep the roads the same and tell people to drive better.  The reality is, the roads were designed for people traveling 60mph and if you drive 80mph turns, corners, exits, ect will not flow properly.  Same thing in this situation, going 90+mph in a 65 zone throws off the flow of the road and peoples perceptions/conceptions of what reality is.  As a result of the cop going way too fast, it caused an accident.

I'm not letting the other driver off the hook though.  They made a bad decision making that turn.  They should have waited 30 seconds.  There was no one on that fucking road.  They should have seen two cars coming at a decent clip, noticed no one else was coming and simply waited.  They also shouldn't have gotten in the car after partying/drinking and probably were a bit drunk.  Maybe legally able to operate a vehicle but off just enough to make a bad decision.  I know if I'm a bit tired or had a couple, I'm legally ok to drive but I make slightly different decisions than I would of a clear mind.

Cop should be convicted of vehicular manslaughter.  Should lose his licenses for a long time(5+ years), big fine, community service, and spend a year in jail.  He should not lose his job.  He can work a desk as far as I'm concerned.  He shouldn't be in a patrol car.

/thread