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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2009, 08:17:03 PM »
what gear/rpm are you finishing at?
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2009, 10:53:42 PM »
Joe thats sick I didn't even know you where going today. Got vids?
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2009, 11:47:52 PM »
I'm embarassed with my b-series  :-[
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2009, 12:06:18 AM »
Quote from: Teg2boo on March 15, 2009, 11:47:52 PM
I'm embarassed with my b-series  :-[

well, if your b went low 10s, you wouldn't be.   now go spend 3 times the money and make it happen so you feel better
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2009, 07:29:04 AM »
Here they are in order.


60' 1.651 best 1.732 1.666
330 4.610 4.617 4.516 best
1/8 6.984 6.927 6.837 best
mph 101.94 106.11 best 105.60
1000 9.065 8.922 8.845 best
1/4 10.795 10.614 10.548 best
mph 130.52 132.83 best 131.96

Car and motor built by myself for all the new guys, Tuned on EcTune by Xenocron. Tons of credit to him. (I dont want to hear it)

Basic setup...

Stock Bore Z6 w/ stock sleeves, Vitaras, Eagles.
Ported Z6 head w/ 59300 and valvetrain. Porting by me.
Ported Z6 intake mani and 68-65mm TB from Chris here on HMT. Good guy. Polarbeartuning.com
Rc750's, 2.25/2.5 inch charge piping.
4 inch up pipe, 38mm ebay wg, Holset H1c 18.5 cm. 24ish psi.
Ebay baby intercooler.
Stock Si tranny, Act 4 puck, LSD PP, 7.5 lb flywheel.
STOCK baby hf/std axles
ETD traction bar
23x8x13 M&H on Lenso's (Plenty of tire for this power level)
Car made 436 whp and 340 wtq
Roughly 1950 lbs w/ me.

Sorry guys, no vids of the car this time. I didnt have my cam with me. Here is a dyno graph and pic @ the track. Sexy.


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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2009, 07:31:59 AM »
JD we were talking about the nitrous, and its becoming a possibility. Were gonna start small though and see how the bottom end takes it. I think a 50 shot will do a lot for it.

I think the car has more in it the way it sits.
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2009, 07:52:48 AM »
is that a log manifold?  O0
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2009, 08:15:32 AM »
Yes sir.
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2009, 08:30:18 AM »
 O0

LSD in the tranny?
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2009, 08:38:42 AM »
Quote from: junkyard racer on March 16, 2009, 08:30:18 AM
O0

LSD in the tranny?

Not yet. Joe you should have stop by and pick it up.
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2009, 08:40:30 AM »
can I ask how much loot you have in the car/build?
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2009, 09:13:00 AM »
did you do any milling of the block, porting oil pump, matching oil lube holes of the bearings w/ block, or any other tricks? ;D

Do you have any pictures of cyl. porting and intake porting? ;D

Is your car still streetable setup or strickly track? ;D
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2009, 09:56:01 AM »
What about another 10psi instead of the 50shot, that holset still has more in it.  :noel:
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2009, 10:04:12 AM »
Just awesome. The definition of rhmt
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2009, 10:54:28 AM »
Block is not decked. Head is milled a touch just for straightness. Oil pump is ported and shimmed. Running straight 30w heavy duty diesel/gas oil.

The turbo will not support another 10 psi. Its losing boost at high rpm as it is. I think it has something to do with the rpm were running. We were shifting around 8900.

Build cost is really unknown at this point. Its gone through a bunch of changes that have all improved the setup. But its not an expensive build. The cam is the most expensive part really.

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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2009, 11:36:29 AM »
so who guessed the closest time on the old "what will my car run this season" thread????
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2009, 11:44:52 AM »
Im a new-b. Thats hot.





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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM »
thats badass. i have a shell here that i cant do shit with because it has no title. would love to do a build like that for it and just use it as a track car, but niggas be broke  O0
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2009, 12:49:47 PM »
Quote from: jeffsciv23 on March 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
thats badass. i have a shell here that i cant do shit with because it has no title. would love to do a build like that for it and just use it as a track car, but niggas be broke  O0

I have an EG shell also w/o title but no plans for it yet.

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
Block is not decked. Head is milled a touch just for straightness. Oil pump is ported and shimmed. Running straight 30w heavy duty diesel/gas oil.

The turbo will not support another 10 psi. Its losing boost at high rpm as it is. I think it has something to do with the rpm were running. We were shifting around 8900.

Build cost is really unknown at this point. Its gone through a bunch of changes that have all improved the setup. But its not an expensive build. The cam is the most expensive part really.


When you ported your head and intake did you do just a port match job or did you use a flowbench?

Am I reading that correctly no LSD? :noel:


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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2009, 01:26:41 PM »
I did the intake manifold. I have worked on flowbenchs enough I know what works and what doesnt. Proof in the pudding is it works.


Flowbench time is very expensive unless you personally own (10K)+ name brand units. When your porting manifolds for under 100 dollars to compete with CDM intake manifold like Bloxs sohc manifold that are horrible designs I have to undercut their prices. Also once you have worked/found out what works on a flowbench you dont have to keep retesting your work. Port work is an art form your hand will be pretty damn accurate after 100+ manifolds/heads.



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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2009, 01:29:18 PM »
Quote from: chris maletsky on March 16, 2009, 01:26:41 PM
I did the intake manifold. I have worked on flowbenchs enough I know what works and what doesnt. Proof in the pudding is it works.


Flowbench time is very expensive unless you personally own (10K)+ name brand units. When your porting manifolds for under 100 dollars to compete with CDM intake manifold like Bloxs sohc manifold that are horrible designs I have to undercut their prices. Also once you have worked/found out what works on a flowbench you dont have to keep retesting your work. Port work is an art form your hand will be pretty damn accurate after 100+ manifolds/heads.

How much to port y8 head and z6 mani and through on a 70mm TB w/ spacer? ;D
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2009, 01:32:03 PM »
Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 07:31:59 AM
JD we were talking about the nitrous, and its becoming a possibility. Were gonna start small though and see how the bottom end takes it. I think a 50 shit will do a lot for it.

A 50 shot will get you 75+ to the wheels, it really depends on how free flowing your hotside is.

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
The turbo will not support another 10 psi. Its losing boost at high rpm as it is.

Internal or external gate?  If external, what wastegate spring?


Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on March 16, 2009, 11:36:29 AM
so who guessed the closest time on the old "what will my car run this season" thread????

I did.
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2009, 01:42:42 PM »
Quote from: Joseph Davis on March 16, 2009, 01:32:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 07:31:59 AM
JD we were talking about the nitrous, and its becoming a possibility. Were gonna start small though and see how the bottom end takes it. I think a 50 shit will do a lot for it.

A 50 shot will get you 75+ to the wheels, it really depends on how free flowing your hotside is.

Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
The turbo will not support another 10 psi. Its losing boost at high rpm as it is.

Internal or external gate?  If external, what wastegate spring?


Quote from: ApexSilver06MR on March 16, 2009, 11:36:29 AM
so who guessed the closest time on the old "what will my car run this season" thread????

I did.

look at the pics joey, notice the FUCK YOU pipe.  8)
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2009, 02:36:15 PM »
Quote from: Dr. D-Series on March 16, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
The turbo will not support another 10 psi. Its losing boost at high rpm as it is. I think it has something to do with the rpm were running. We were shifting around 8900.

I think that it might be a wastegate issue, as in drive pressure opening your wastegate. I have run that turbo over 40psi and not had it fall below 40psi @4000rpm in a 5.9L motor or ~23600lpm vs your 1.6 @ 8900rpm ~14240lpm. The drive pressure on that turbo @ ~40psi in my experience has been (with a log mani and the 18.5cm housing) about 50 - 52psi or about 1:1.2 which is imho pretty safe, drive pressure to manifold pressure.
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« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM »
How the fuck is the tranny holding up?
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« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2009, 02:41:32 PM »
Quote from: crttaz on March 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
How the fuck is the tranny holding up?

Hopes and dreams
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« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2009, 02:53:04 PM »
Quote from: QikEnuF on March 16, 2009, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: crttaz on March 16, 2009, 02:40:07 PM
How the fuck is the tranny holding up?

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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #57 on: March 16, 2009, 03:05:59 PM »
what spring is in the wastegate?
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #58 on: March 16, 2009, 05:21:40 PM »
Found one why its been losing boost. It was doing this on the dyno too.

Exhaust gasket on #1 runner was totally GONE and the 1 of the 2 bolts on the WG was falling out. BIG leaks. Ill have it all taken care of by the next track day. Im also getting my exhaust manifold flange milled since its pretty warped.

The 2 springs in the WG equal 20-21 psi. The boost controller is only adding about 4 psi.

Head was ported and I didnt follow any guides other than what my finger felt going through the ports. Took out whatever didnt feel right to me. Nothing special, but it seems to be working fine.

The turbo now SHOULD support more boost with the exhaust leaks fixed. Maybe we'll throw a couple more psi into the motor.

dvst8r - Thanks for the info, now im confident I was having issues only because of the leaks.

I think just a 50 shot will get the car near 10.0 to 10.1. We'll see.
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Re: 10.54. What more you want ?
« Reply #59 on: March 16, 2009, 05:29:57 PM »
Nitrous will hit somewhat hard and can cause traction problems, try for boost first.
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